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crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 4:44:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha You are the pure definition of creeper; even if you do not ACT on your creepy urges, they are in your head. Disgusting. Well then, there you have it. As the eminent OP, it's your responsibility to define your stated terms. Finally, after 13 or so pages of asking, you've FINALLY defined the boundary between phase #2 and phase #3, and, it is I. [image]http://lyophilizedproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Image1.jpg[/image]

LadyConstanze -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 4:56:13 PM)
I'm not really into physics, my feeble female brain tends to switch off, but Quantum physics, if I remember rightly, everything is kinda possible however unlikely, so maybe there is hope that guys accept us for who we are versus what they want to see

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 4:58:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant He's not saying you're a sock, but he may be inferring that you probably have stock in fruit-of-the-loom. Actually it's Hanes, 'cuz that's all that Costco sells in bulk for my size! [image]http://cdn.collarspace.com/attachments/120215/BCFBAAE9-EA65-4EF8-A5DC-7B57625030B41.jpg[/image]

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:03:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I'm not really into physics, my feeble female brain tends to switch off, but Quantum physics, if I remember rightly, everything is kinda possible however unlikely, so maybe there is hope that guys accept us for who we are versus what they want to see Yeah. Basically quantum physics is #3 while Einstein is #2, and while we have a boundary where things are definitely #2 and not #3, we also have a problem understanding #3 and, worse yet, unifying #2 with #3. Same here except the reality may be some kind of intersecting Venn diagram of sorts: #1 ==> noticing #2 ==> looking #3 ==> leering [image]http://cdn.collarspace.com/attachments/120215/080D5AAC-8D4C-46F0-B6A2-22A18397CA2C1.jpg[/image]

LadyConstanze -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:04:25 PM)
After seeing those, I stick with LaPerla and Wolford, thanks... Btw you want to google their sites just for your own enjoyment....

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:09:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer I think there are a few differences, Lady C. I've come to believe that the sight of a woman's body can have an effect on a man that's way, way beyond the reverse. I mean, the evidence is pretty damned abundant, isn't it? How much do female models earn, in comparison to men? All the porn on the net aimed at men - and so little aimed at women? As a male, a woman who is physically attractive, and especially if she's showing flesh, will blast your brains out. I have quite a lot of brains, but mine still got blasted out, and frequently, in my teens and early twenties. I'm older and more in control, now, but it still happens .... But ... you know this stuff, right? You were once a pro-Domme. You know that certain outfits 'worked', while others didn't, purely because of the way those superficial appearances had their effect on your different clients? If that makes men more superficial then, yes, so be it - men are more superficial. quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer I think the truth is that women aren't into seeing, so much ... full stop. I respect your opinion as you make logical sense and, you've thought about it enough to have a valid opinion. I, for one, don't disagree with a single thing you've written above. [image]http://file.stuff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/dangermenthinking.jpg[/image]

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:14:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze After seeing those, I stick with LaPerla and Wolford, thanks... Btw you want to google their sites just for your own enjoyment.... Oh my. I was joking about the ladies underthings, but, my oh my, that's some nice stuff there! You have good taste! [image]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUHFWgqUkAAjIQd.jpg[/image]

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:32:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze The waitresses are required to wear them as a sort of uniform. I remember. All the business hotels in Munich were booked at the time of my visit (it was a rush fire drill to solve a technical problem, so I flew to Munich on a moment's notice). So, the only hotel the travel agent could get me was a small one on the outskirts of the city. I love that "traditional" costume! It basically provided a window to what I love to see most! And at street level, so to speak. Eye to boob. Perfect! (Of course, I tried not to stare, but I made no attempt not to remember!) quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I am sure you will have noticed guys wearing short leather trousers - same thing. Ah. Yes. I had totally forgotten about those funny-looking things. [image]http://cdn.collarspace.com/attachments/120215/25D4A3BD-0A22-414D-899D-2817BBC6AD361.jpg[/image] quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze The dirndls have a long long history (do look it up, it's fascinating) and were actually worn to church in a very Catholic environment. I won't doubt this, since women have been women for a very long time, despite religion and social influences to the contrary. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I might have mentioned before, I'm half Italian, I grew up with wine, even as a child I was giving a tiny bit of wine, watered down and had to take a sip and discuss the flavours, smell, all of that, Exactly. Wine is just like water. It's just a drink. It contains alcohol. Big whup. It's not the taboo thing that Americans seem to go all out for the moment they turn of age. Certainly it's not something to get drunk on as the Barbarians do (which is an ancient term, I agree, for the Germanic peoples). And, I will never understand the Irish. What's with them and drinking to excess? Italians, in general, drink in moderation. And they drink at any age, so, it's not a big deal at any point in time like it is for Americans to be "able" to drink. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I don't tend to get drunk but I do enjoy a good wine on occasion, since it's past 9 PM I'm debating with myself if I might like a Chenin Blanc or a Bordeaux Superieur. I'm also quite particular to a nice Single Malt, preferably Islay. However I don't drink to get drunk and try to avoid that, usually very successfully. Out here, in the Santa Cruz mountains, it's mostly Penot Noir because our soil sucks so the grapes have to work hard to be any good. [image]http://sr1.wine-searcher.net/images/labels/93/00/10589300.jpg[/image] quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I don't doubt that you have a nice house, however I do doubt that I might be impressed, I can send you pics of where I'm usually staying in LA, maybe I'm a bit spoiled. The point wasn't my nice house, as you should see my property tax bill. The point was that I love to adore and worship a woman who is my intellectual superior; but the moment I feel she's using me for more than for my services, I turn off. I can't walk the talk after that realization. And, very few women are like you, so, that's OK. I'll wait my turn in line for the next available local wonderful woman (where I fully realize the wait may be forever). quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze However there might be something more than intellectual intercourse I want from you, you seem to be good with motors and I got the confirmation today that my KRGT-1 is built and ready, if you do know some nice routes to ride that baby and where there are no speed cams or cops, I would appreciate that, a lot. I know the area up here because I participate in the annual Range of Light rides (mine is a K1200RS which is a wonderfully responsive and powerful bike that I ride like I ride a woman as the metaphor of being tightly knit one and the same with my actions and her beauty and power is apropos). http://www.meetup.com/BMW-Motorcycle-Club-of-Northern-California/events/223699735/

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 5:44:15 PM)
Okay folks, it's time to stop feeding the troll.

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 7:01:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant Okay folks, it's time to stop feeding the troll. Congratulations. Your intellectual contribution to the conversation is utterly astounding in what it lacks.

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 7:06:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant Okay folks, it's time to stop feeding the troll. Congratulations. Your intellectual contribution to the conversation is utterly astounding in what it lacks. LOL! Lemme know how that shit works out for you, bub ;)

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 7:33:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant LOL! Lemme know how that shit works out for you, bub ;) Eloquent. You and freedomdwarf appear to be twins. Whatever it is that is eating the two of you must be suffering horribly.

ExiledTyrant -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 7:45:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant LOL! Lemme know how that shit works out for you, bub ;) Eloquent. You and freedomdwarf appear to be twins. Whatever it is that is eating the two of you must be suffering horribly. Crumpets, it's not necessary for me to engage in this with you, at all. You just continue to make an ass of yourself, you do not need my assistance to do so. I already know you. You are one of the unremarkable masses that strive and struggle to prove themselves and in doing so you reveal to us what a complex mathematical equation you are over and over again... [img]http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/38600/38600/triwent7_38600_sm.gif[/img] I'm very comfortable in my skin. I am very comfortable with my less than stellar IQ (don't offer him clues folks, it won't help him at all, his permanent residence is in De'Nile)... unlike you, I very much like me, like my social skills... which you have an appalling lack of... and I love my amazing life and all the riches that abound within it. Those riches are those who know me and they are going to find your perception of me laughable... but not nearly as laughable as your never ending faux passe within this community. I pity you, Poindexter. Most people grow out of that horrible social ineptitude, but clearly it's the cross you are going to carry to the grave. Jus sayin

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 9:01:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant I'm very comfortable in my skin. I am very comfortable with my less than stellar IQ I believe you are too humbly self effacing in that you somewhat overestimated your innate mental abilities.

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 9:29:44 PM)
I'm with you E.T. smile...............................is that peewit STILL rambling on and saying nothing ? I wonder what his SHOE size is ? Too bad I will never know as I have had him on hide since shortly after he began spouting his idiocy. If you find out though, please let me know smile

Spiritedsub2 -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 9:34:40 PM)
Guys. He doesn't care if the attention paid him is positive or negative. I don't think he knows the difference. So you're feeding him too, and he's accomplished more than the entire horde of crazed socks to render this forum barren.

Dvr22999874 -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/2/2015 9:41:01 PM)
you are right SS..........................I have HUGE gaps on these pages that just show where he is hidden. Still, as long as somebody keeps him engaged and happy on this forum, maybe he won't create another sock and go to another one and try and play intelligent there. Then I have to start putting him on hide all over again smile.

crumpets -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/3/2015 12:14:00 AM)
To save myself the agony of reading the drivel that comes from these morons, I have put Dvr22999874, Spiritedsub2, & ExiledTyrant on permanent hide (we call it plonking in the Usenet world). The reason is the age-old admonition: [image]http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/never-argue-with-stupid-people-mark-twain.jpg[/image]

LadyConstanze -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/3/2015 4:01:12 AM)
Crumpets, there are sooooo many things the average man just doesn't realize about women's clothing. I think we have covered that a few women are dressing tarty but actually most don't, you just notice the ones more. If you are an average woman who doesn't get all her outfits tailored and especially made for her (about 99% of all of us) you do have to rely what you find in the shops, what you can actually buy, most women work, so you also have to dress in a way that isn't totally out of fashion, female fashions change a lot more than men's fashions and it costs us a lot more. Think about it this way, both a man and a woman work in an environment where you are in a suit, you get away with maybe owning 4 to 5 suits, you get them dry cleaned, change shirt or tie, you're done with them for years because not much changes, the lapel might change slightly or if you have 4, 3 or 2 buttons on your jacket, that's about it and the changes aren't that noticeable. As a woman who wears suits, the same things go but the changes are much more noticeable, then you got colours, hemlines, is the skirt narrow or flared? Sometimes having a larger wardrobe than the average male is not a choice but a necessity. When was the last time that you had to worry if your suit jacket might shape your breasts a bit too provocatively and somebody might see it as an invitation? That's just business... Then think about other stuff, like you are living in a hot climate, shorts are pretty much the uniform in SC, I prefer them to skirts as there is no danger of flashing panties, it's damned hard to find shorts that aren't short short and expose most of your butt cheeks. If you're out and about in degrees that are over 100, you really don't want to wear stuff that makes you sweat more, so you search for shorts that don't flash and are not provocative but also aren't frumpy and cover your legs to mid calf, mid thigh is a good length, you know how difficult that is to find unless you want to wear those horrible golf shorts? I finally figured out that sports goods stores and having those cotton basketball shorts for men is an option, however men tend to be a bit bigger than the average woman, so a size S for men means I have to wash them very hot and then put them in the dryer to shrink them a bit, they're not the most flattering things ever (i.e. they don't make me feel good to wear them) and they tend to be really thick cotton, which again doesn't work well when it's beastly hot. What do I do? Do I sweat like a pig or do I just buy the short shorts they have in shops and be accused of flaunting myself? Then let's go to the tops, it's hot, you're out moving and exercising, light colours tend to turn a bit transparent when soaked with moisture, but dark colours attract the heat much more. When was the last time you had to worry about flashing a nipple or your bra? Plus wet or moist clothes cling to you, so you will display your shape even if the shirt is a few sizes too big. What would be the alternative? Getting up before the sun is out and exercising when it's cool? Great but I tend to have to do shopping and like to combine it with exercise, I prefer to inline skate instead of being inside in a stinky gym, if I skate to the shops, I use my time much more effectively as usually I'm also faster than taking the car (traffic jams in LA, hooray) That's just normal life, stuff most guys never ever worry about, not once because you don't encounter it. I think making guys live as a woman in a woman's body just for a few weeks would change their perception of how we dress dramatically. The woman walking down the street in the skirt and a gust of wind lifts her skirt and flashes her undies, she might actually not have intended the wardrobe malfunction, she might just have forgotten about it briefly while she was getting dressed, she might have thought it's a hot day and there won't be winds... Seriously, we don't really worry every day when we get dressed if our clothes will appeal to a random guy we have no interaction with, strange men are just not that important to us.

NookieNotes -> RE: Don't be a creeper (12/3/2015 4:06:21 AM)
I'm late to the game, because I've been off life-ing, but I've got a few things to say (surprise, surprise!). Here goes: Since when does a person's dress make them less deserving of basic human decency? Since when does a person's sexual life (whether chaste or promiscuous) make them less deserving of basic human decency? This is what I'm not understanding. As far as I know, it does not. At all. And the funny thing is, women in this thread are getting into this conversation along with the men, debating "dressing like a slut" and so on. Why? quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets I can't be a liar one day, and not suspected of being a liar another day. I can't be a convicted felon one day and not be a convicted felon the next day. I can't be a lecherous leering creepy jerk one day, and not be suspected of being the same on another occasion. Would you leave your kids with a convicted felonious lecherous leering old man just because he "says" he's no longer that? Once a slut, always a slut. So? Does being a slut mean I should be treated with less respect? I know lots of sluts, and I love them dearly. I own a slut, and I love him more than I've ever loved anyone ever. He is very deserving of respect. Why does loving sex and having sex equate to deserving to be the butt of poor social skills, lack of good manners and just plain entitlement from men or women? quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Take the example of the "Traditional Bavarian Slut". She's dressed like a slut would dress. Sure, it's traditional. But it's still a slut. Again, so? And that's equating dress with identity, which is absolutely not a logical equation. If you are "dressed like a business man," because you put on a suit for a funeral (appropriate attire), that does not make you a business man. You may be a construction worker, or a beach bum. And even if you are a business man, does that entitle to you to more or less basic courtesy than the construction worker or beach bum? Not in my world, it doesn't. quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Tradition is no excuse for being a whore. Halloween is no excuse for being a whore. Mardi Gras is no excuse for being a whore. Oktoberfest is no excuse for being a whore. Getting drunk at frat parties is no excuse for being a whore. Selling yourself or your website on Collarspace as a (Fin-anything) Domme is no excuse for being a whore. The once-a-year office party is no excuse for being a whore. No, you're changing the vernacular to your favorite slur. Which is it? Slut or whore? I though men were sluts and women were whores? [Citation: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4831369/mpage_2/key_men%252Csluts/tm.htm#, "In general, men are the sluts (they do it for the sex); women are the whores (they do it for personal gain)."] quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets The biggest mistakes women seem to make (men make mistakes too - but that's not my point here) is thinking that men don't REMEMBER the fact that she's only a "traditional whore" on one day of the year. Men happen to remember whores very well. We have really good memories for the visual whore. Really really really good memories. Once a whore, always a whore. So, having sex for personal gain (using your own logic, not agreeing) means that a "whore" should now be subjected to any kind of treatment any entitled man or woman feels is appropriate? At what point is that line crossed? Is it just dress? Is it certain ways of speaking? Is it actually taking money? It is enjoying sex? Is it all based on the number of partners (and does it matter if they are same or opposite sex)? At what point does a man or woman give up every right to be treated with basic decency as a human being by those they encounter every day? An are there different rules for those who have PROOF of any of those above-mentioned crossed-lines? Or not? quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Just like once a convicted sex offender, always a convicted sex offender. Ah. Right, Because dressing in a sexy barmaid outfit is totally the same as forcibly hurting another. Oh wait. Even sex offenders are not all the same are they? I mean, after all, getting caught and prosecuted for peeing in public is TOTALLY a good reason to abolish all attempts at common decency towards that person. Or the fact that they had sex with their girlfriend of two years, who happened to be a year younger, and not yet "legally of age." Yeah. Why not get out the brands now? Now that I think of it, wouldn't that be easier? Just brand people so we know who doesn't need to be treated with... Oh. Wait. We did that. And we decided as a people that that was no bueno. <sarcasm>I'm sure glad we did away with the branding, and now use more subtle things like "perception of whorehood."</sarcasm> quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Men are at fault for many things. But, in this discussion, since leering was never well defined, I'm assuming there are three types: 1. Noticing 2. Looking 3. Leering And, I'm assuming women here haven't adequately defined the difference between the three. no·tice ˈnōdəs/ verb 1. become aware of. look lo͝ok/ verb 1. direct one's gaze toward someone or something or in a specified direction. leer lir/ verb look or gaze in an unpleasant, malicious, or lascivious way. I have. quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets And, worse yet, the women here don't even REALIZE they're the CAUSE of most of the #1 and #2, and that they INVITE #1 and #2 (albeit we hear many excuses to the contrary that don't jive with facts). Now, no woman invites #3, but, the fine line of distinction rears its ugly head up when you try to dilineate between #2 and #3. Wait, so women are the CAUSE of notice and looks? Do men never cause this? Only women? And only women invite notice and looks and well, right? Never men? What if we use a similar progression: 1. Noticing 2. Looking 3. Embarrassing em·bar·rass ˌimˈberəs,ˌemˈberəs/ verb cause (someone) to feel awkward, self-conscious, or ashamed. Is this still women only? Is this still OK, because penis? Because we invite 1 and 2, and you don't know the difference between 2 and 3? What if we replace embarrass with shame? Does that change things? Mortify? When is it OK? I don't think it's ever OK. quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Hence, it is my premise, that women make absolutely no logical sense, because what they decry, is exactly what they desire, the only difference being in "CONDITIONS" that they unilaterally impose, which they have absolutely no control over (hence, the predictable rant in the original post). Actually, that's the point being made. We have little control over those conditions, and we rely on others to know how to treat us in respectful ways. Sure, I know how to teach others to treat me well, or simply ignore them. Most women also know how to de-escalate and turn aside. The point that is being made is that the majority of the human race does this for each other, except in specific circumstances: Because black Because ugly Because tits Why would ANYONE think this is OK? quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets I can't deny that, since women can never be trusted to say what they really mean, that I have been left holding strings that I had to put together to figure out what they really wanted. quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets Being Aspergers and probably a few other things, I can never figure out women, because they, themselves, deceive themselves more than I could ever deceive them all by myself. For men and women everywhere, I will correct you: quote: ...since people* can never be trusted to say what they really mean...* quote: Being Aspergers and probably a few other things, I can never figure out people, because they, themselves, deceive themselves more than I could ever deceive them all by myself. It's a human condition that MOST people fall victim to. A lack of personal awareness. And that's part of life. That has nothing to do with how humans should be treated. quote: ORIGINAL: crumpets I mean, if I was a convicted felon, would you think I would try to convince myself that I'm not? How would I do that? Only women can accomplish such odious self delusion. Oh. You've never met the "God's gift to women" guy who is not? Or the "pants falling off my ass is hot" guy? Or the "I'm hot, I can't lose this roll" guy? Fascinating that all the self-delusions in your life are women. And fascinating that you think this means you should treat them with anything other than simple respect and kindness.

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