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What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 1:12:24 PM   
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In a joint release, the Black Youth Project, We Charge Genocide, Assata’s Daughters, the #LetUsBreatheCollective, and Black Lives Matter Chicago, say they don't want to talk about "violent" (scare quotes in original) black communities. Instead they want to talk about white supremacist genocide (yes, genocide): "the systematic targeting of Black and brown youth."

Source: Shifting the Focus

U.S. black population:
2000: 35.5 million
2012: 39.7 million

The white supremacist genocide doesn't seem to be working so well, though somewhere around 100,000 blacks were murdered during that time period, overwhelmingly by other blacks in violent black communities. But the answer, they say, is to defund the police:

We demand all local, state and federal budgets to defund the police and invest those dollars and resources in Black futures. ~What We Want

They don't mention brown people, but why quibble? Also part of the problem: Christmas



Is this really helping?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 1:28:01 PM   
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The white supremacist genocide doesn't seem to be working so well, though somewhere around 100,000 blacks were murdered during that time period, overwhelmingly by other blacks in violent black communities. But the answer, they say, is to defund the police:


So since blacks kill blacks we should not worry about cops killing blacks?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 2:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		you actually get that from the comparison?? as opposed to the much more obvious (and real, as opposed to your false implication) that these groups are spending their time and energy on a comparatively small problem and if they cared about "black lives" in the broader sense, they might re-direct those energies where it matters most?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 3:42:25 PM   
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you actually get that from the comparison??

That is exactly what the comparison is and always has been from racists who want to ignore racist cops murdering blacks and have us focus instead on criminal behaviour that is common to all ethnicities.

as opposed to the much more obvious (and real, as opposed to your false implication) that these groups are spending their time and energy on a comparatively small problem and if they cared about "black lives" in the broader sense, they might re-direct those energies where it matters most?

Then the racists can continue to murder with impunity which is what you seem to be pimping.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 3:49:14 PM   
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One Thought about what they want.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 4:09:59 PM   
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.


Well I would agree that it is one rather moronic thought.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 5:26:43 PM   
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.

From your link:

A group called the Black Justice League wants the name of liberal but bigoted President Woodrow Wilson removed from Princeton University. Liberals are aghast that the century-old memory of their progressive hero might vanish from the Princeton campus.

Liberal racist????since buckly kindly stopped breathing up my air the nr seems to have lost it's ability to speak english...something you might relate to.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 10:02:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.

From your link:

A group called the Black Justice League wants the name of liberal but bigoted President Woodrow Wilson removed from Princeton University. Liberals are aghast that the century-old memory of their progressive hero might vanish from the Princeton campus.

Liberal racist????since buckly kindly stopped breathing up my air the nr seems to have lost it's ability to speak english...something you might relate to.


Just what was truly 'liberal' about W Wilson ? Let's take a look hey ?

Raised in the South, he smiled on Jim Crow and did not object when two of his cabinet appointees re-segregated their departments. Same policies as the latter 20th century repubs and so-called Dixiecrats and Boll-Weevil dems...all conservatives, hardly liberal.

He vowed to “teach the Latin American republics to elect good men” and dispatched troops to Mexico and Haiti when they didn’t follow his advice. Same as say Reagan's Contras and all in an effort to clear the way for corporate America.

During World War I, he enforced new laws that effectively outlawed most dissent from government policy. Very similar to the right (conservatives) today with the Patriot Act and wanting to hang a so-called dissident fugitive...Snowden.

He signed bills that created the Federal Reserve, Hardly liberal allowing the bankers to take over our currency and the Treasury.

Signed on to a progressive income tax rates. 2 rates 2% and 7%, Same as the progressive repubs of the time pushed for or they wouldn't have voted in the 16th amend.

He secured humane working conditions for merchant seamen and railroad workers. Same as progressive repubs.

He restricted child labor again with the aid of the progressives republicans.

He curbed the power of large corporations. Same as the progressive repubs, with Roosevelt actually breaking up Standard Oil. But didn't stop the war profiteering or desire for armed expansionism.

After the U.S. entered the war in Europe, his administration began operating the railroads, lifting the hopes of leftists who had long advocated public ownership of what was then a rich and vital industry. Lifting hopes is one thing, actually doing it is quite another and also a policy of the progressive wing of the repubs.

If Wilson were running today, he wouldn’t win a single Democratic primary and would no doubt be heckled out of the race.


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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/28/2015 10:23:46 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.

From your link:

A group called the Black Justice League wants the name of liberal but bigoted President Woodrow Wilson removed from Princeton University. Liberals are aghast that the century-old memory of their progressive hero might vanish from the Princeton campus.

Liberal racist????since buckly kindly stopped breathing up my air the nr seems to have lost it's ability to speak english...something you might relate to.


Seems to me that reading comprehension is something that you might want to consider taking a course in. Where in that post did I say anything about the post. I only shared one persons thoughts about what they want. I didn't comment one way or the other. Attacking me personally for someone elses thoughts isn't nice and maybe, just maybe, reading comprehension might help unless you think that only posts that you agree with from sources you agree with or something like that should be allowed and everyone one elses first amendment rights should be taken away. If that is the case, please let the Mods know.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 3:38:02 AM   
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.

From your link:

A group called the Black Justice League wants the name of liberal but bigoted President Woodrow Wilson removed from Princeton University. Liberals are aghast that the century-old memory of their progressive hero might vanish from the Princeton campus.

Liberal racist????since buckly kindly stopped breathing up my air the nr seems to have lost it's ability to speak english...something you might relate to.


Seems to me that reading comprehension is something that you might want to consider taking a course in. Where in that post did I say anything about the post.

Where in my post did I say you did....your lack of comprehension is a regular part of your posts.


I only shared one persons thoughts about what they want. I didn't comment one way or the other.

Once again I did not say you did...learn to read.

Attacking me personally for someone elses thoughts isn't nice


I did not attack you. I pointed out that you lack the ability to comprehend what you read. That you do not think I am nice is of little importance since I have no intention of dating you or allowing you access to my prize "shanghai rooster"



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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 3:57:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

ORIGINAL: KenDckey
ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

One Thought about what they want.

From your link:

A group called the Black Justice League wants the name of liberal but bigoted President Woodrow Wilson removed from Princeton University. Liberals are aghast that the century-old memory of their progressive hero might vanish from the Princeton campus.

Liberal racist????since buckly kindly stopped breathing up my air the nr seems to have lost it's ability to speak english...something you might relate to.


Seems to me that reading comprehension is something that you might want to consider taking a course in. Where in that post did I say anything about the post.

Where in my post did I say you did....your lack of comprehension is a regular part of your posts.


I only shared one persons thoughts about what they want. I didn't comment one way or the other.

Once again I did not say you did...learn to read.

Attacking me personally for someone elses thoughts isn't nice


I did not attack you. I pointed out that you lack the ability to comprehend what you read. That you do not think I am nice is of little importance since I have no intention of dating you or allowing you access to my prize "shanghai rooster"





What you fail to do is to

1 (see bolded) Unless they have changed the language, I was speaking English
2. (se bolded) Failed to show that I lack an ability to comprehend when I haven't spoken to the article only said it was
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One Thought about what they want.
You assume facts not presented I believe.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 6:17:01 AM   
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Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism


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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 6:36:19 AM   
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try this instead:

Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism



Another take on Wilson. Interesting.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 6:38:06 AM   
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try this instead:

Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism



He is clearly unaware that there are liberal racists, like LBJ who said after signing the Civil Rights "that'el keep the n*****s voting Democrat for the next 20 years.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 9:40:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		And Johnson was spot on. The party of the KKK, democrats, co-opted the ethnic black vote for decades after.

I find the spin doctored re-inventing of the Democratic party done in the late 1960s a wonderful example of hype over substance. The same old money families that were proponents of eugenics and national socialism in the 1930s still pull the strings of the party.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 12:21:16 PM   
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ome black student groups have demanded black-only safe spaces or cultural centers. A group at UCLA demanded black-only student housing. That would be a throwback to the Old South.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

And we're just supposed to fucking put up with that eh ? Bullshit.

Yeah, they got their Black Miss America, well I wouldn't fuck her with ten rubbers on, how does that grabya ? The Congressional Black Caucus in congress, well you go right ahead, isolate yourself. Go ahead and do what White separatists want to do to you, separate you from Whites. You fucking idiots want to do it yourself after your forefathers fought to get rid of this shit ? Go ahead and move into your own neighborhoods because quite frankly, that suits many of us just fine, even the ones who are afraid to admit it. Face it, when people start making more money, where do they move ?

Gotta be kidding me with this shit.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 8:51:58 PM   
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try this instead:

Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism



I read the whole thing and in all of that, all I read was that Wilson's idea of govt. was that administration of policy (called by the author...people politics) was to be equal in setting policy as was govt. itself. (congress)

I not only don't see that in today's liberalism, I don't see any difference in the actual admin. of govt. when the right or conservatives run govt.

I also don't see any of that as necessarily being, the big L Liberalism of today or that Wilson was the so-called father of anything...we see today.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 8:55:36 PM   
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ome black student groups have demanded black-only safe spaces or cultural centers. A group at UCLA demanded black-only student housing. That would be a throwback to the Old South.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427656/campus-unrest-blame-progressive-faculty-administrators

And we're just supposed to fucking put up with that eh ? Bullshit.

Yeah, they got their Black Miss America, well I wouldn't fuck her with ten rubbers on, how does that grabya ? The Congressional Black Caucus in congress, well you go right ahead, isolate yourself. Go ahead and do what White separatists want to do to you, separate you from Whites. You fucking idiots want to do it yourself after your forefathers fought to get rid of this shit ? Go ahead and move into your own neighborhoods because quite frankly, that suits many of us just fine, even the ones who are afraid to admit it. Face it, when people start making more money, where do they move ?

Gotta be kidding me with this shit.

T^T

Once again blacks are demanding segigation.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/29/2015 9:00:00 PM   
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quote:

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try this instead:

Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism



I read the whole thing and in all of that, all I read was that Wilson's idea of govt. was that administration of policy (called by the author...people politics) was to be equal in setting policy as was govt. itself. (congress)

I not only don't see that in today's liberalism, I don't see any difference in the actual admin. of govt. when the right or conservatives run govt.

I also don't see any of that as necessarily being, the big L Liberalism of today or that Wilson was the so-called father of anything...we see today.

Has it occured to you that liberalism had to start out as a different animal than it is today. Of course the people who started us down that path would not be the same as todays liberals.
Teddy Roosevelt was leftist too. Remember he started the Progressive Party which died out when the Dems. adopted their platform.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 12:23:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

try this instead:

Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism



I read the whole thing and in all of that, all I read was that Wilson's idea of govt. was that administration of policy (called by the author...people politics) was to be equal in setting policy as was govt. itself. (congress)

I not only don't see that in today's liberalism, I don't see any difference in the actual admin. of govt. when the right or conservatives run govt.

I also don't see any of that as necessarily being, the big L Liberalism of today or that Wilson was the so-called father of anything...we see today.

Has it occured to you that liberalism had to start out as a different animal than it is today. Of course the people who started us down that path would not be the same as todays liberals.
Teddy Roosevelt was leftist too. Remember he started the Progressive Party which died out when the Dems. adopted their platform.

It's very easy to throw out just ideological terms but not being able in that entire piece about Wilson, one is thus intellectually challenged to define not only Wilson's liberalism but TR's too.

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