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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 7:51:03 AM   
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I'd say they want what MLK wanted... Given the execution of a black youth in Chicago by a racist white cop (covered up by the police dept and other cops), in which the video of the execution was made public (a year later) only cuz of a whistle blower telling a journalist.. I'd say things havent changed much since MLK was executed by a white supremacist..

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 8:07:20 AM   
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"What do the protestors want? "

I'd say they want what MLK wanted... Given the execution of a black youth in Chicago by a racist white cop (covered up by the police dept and other cops), in which the video of the execution was made public (a year later) only cuz of a whistle blower telling a journalist.. I'd say things havent changed much since MLK was executed by a white supremacist..

If you don't think things have changed much since MLK you have know idea what you are talking about.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 8:20:27 AM   
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How exactly have things "changed"?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 8:37:27 AM   
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And we're just supposed to fucking put up with that eh ? Bullshit.

Yes we are supposed to put up with that...you see this is amerika not nazi germany.

Yeah, they got their Black Miss America, well I wouldn't fuck her with ten rubbers on, how does that grabya ?


No one cares who you fuck or suck, with or without rubbers.

The Congressional Black Caucus in congress, well you go right ahead, isolate yourself.

How do you see that as isolation?

Go ahead and do what White separatists want to do to you, separate you from Whites.

English is not your first language is it?


You fucking idiots want to do it yourself after your forefathers fought to get rid of this shit ? Go ahead and move into your own neighborhoods because quite frankly, that suits many of us just fine,

Would you like to bring back public lynchings too?


even the ones who are afraid to admit it.

We all appreciate the fact that you admit freely to your bigotry



Face it, when people start making more money, where do they move ?

The hamptons?



Gotta be kidding me with this shit.

You do a pretty good job of kidding yourself with no help from anyone.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 8:38:59 AM   
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Once again blacks are demanding segigation.

All 40 million who knew...I mean besides you?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 8:42:06 AM   
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Has it occured to you that liberalism had to start out as a different animal than it is today.


Really? How do you get to that moronic opinion?


Teddy Roosevelt was leftist too. Remember he started the Progressive Party which died out when the Dems. adopted their platform.



Once again your degree from the history channel shows it's pressence.
You might want to acquaint yourself with robert lafollette.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 9:34:13 AM   
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RE: What do the protestors want? - 11/30/2015 5:27:11 PM   
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So since blacks kill blacks we should not worry about cops killing blacks?


In my town where the ratio would be more than a 100 blacks killing blacks to 1 white or black cop killing a black... I think in pointed this out one should not be called racist.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 9:40:25 AM   
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Apparently at brown university non conformist discussion and debate had to go underground. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can express youself and your beliefs unless you hide. I don't think it matters what one's opinion is, it has a right to be aired and debated.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 9:46:05 AM   
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Seems the President of one University rejects safe places in favor of education.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 10:42:59 AM   
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427713/underground-brown-university

Apparently at brown university non conformist discussion and debate had to go underground. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can express youself and your beliefs unless you hide. I don't think it matters what one's opinion is, it has a right to be aired and debated.



Why does everyone go on about freedom of speech and wave the bloody flag? There is nothing that guarentees freedom of speech in America. There is only the first amendment which says congress shall make no law abridging it. What individuals do, is left up to individuals, what groups do is left up to groups.


But what honest consideration do we owe to the imbecile who slobbers inanities?

We do not owe hearing a cretin.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 1:03:41 PM   
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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 1:23:31 PM   
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427713/underground-brown-university

Apparently at brown university non conformist discussion and debate had to go underground. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can express youself and your beliefs unless you hide. I don't think it matters what one's opinion is, it has a right to be aired and debated.



Why does everyone go on about freedom of speech and wave the bloody flag? There is nothing that guarentees freedom of speech in America. There is only the first amendment which says congress shall make no law abridging it. What individuals do, is left up to individuals, what groups do is left up to groups.


But what honest consideration do we owe to the imbecile who slobbers inanities?

We do not owe hearing a cretin.
This comes down, once again, to any university that takes state money. As long as they are taking money from taxpayers...some liberal, some conservative...they owe a place for an invited speaker to be heard.

If you, as a student, do not like a speaker's point of view, don't go. If you, as a student, don't like another student's point of view, walk away and don't listen. But don't pull the namby-pamby, daycare bullshit of "need a safe space", "need a trigger-warning".


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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 1:33:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Uh, they do not. If you dont like the constitution, don't stay. Some nutsucker makes an ultrasecret double probation hide from dean wermer page on facebook and the nutsuckers shit their pants?

I there is some irony there. the article claims that some students made innuendo and impugnation afore the fact, much like nutsuckers do consistently.

Then someone sometime later makes a facebook page.

And the nutsuckers afore the fact of any discussion topic claim that the underground nutsuckerism is necessary because. because because.

And the fucking debate came off anyway.

much asswipe for nothing.



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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 1:45:49 PM   
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quote:

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427713/underground-brown-university

Apparently at brown university non conformist discussion and debate had to go underground. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can express youself and your beliefs unless you hide. I don't think it matters what one's opinion is, it has a right to be aired and debated.



Why does everyone go on about freedom of speech and wave the bloody flag? There is nothing that guarentees freedom of speech in America. There is only the first amendment which says congress shall make no law abridging it. What individuals do, is left up to individuals, what groups do is left up to groups.


But what honest consideration do we owe to the imbecile who slobbers inanities?

We do not owe hearing a cretin.

So, At Theory, Republicans don't want to hear what Democrats say at their convention or Democrats don't want to hear what Republicans say at their convention, that we can get the world opposed together with a huge amount of amps and speakers blasting away at 10000 dB and air raid sierens and make so much noise that they can't be heard, that is cool except for the local noise violation and blood running from their ear drums. All because we really don't have freedom of speech.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 1:49:16 PM   
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Wasn't it bush the dumber that said the constitution was just a goddamn piece of paper?

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 2:42:40 PM   
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But what honest consideration do we owe to the imbecile who slobbers inanities?

We do not owe hearing a cretin.


But just remember it goes both ways... one persons inanities is another's gospel. We have the right to walk away... or wait our turn to tell them how insane they are... But we do not have the right to shout them down simply because we disagree or think their speech insane.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 2:49:12 PM   
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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 2:56:43 PM   
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Uh, they do not. If you dont like the constitution, don't stay. Some nutsucker makes an ultrasecret double probation hide from dean wermer page on facebook and the nutsuckers shit their pants?

I there is some irony there. the article claims that some students made innuendo and impugnation afore the fact, much like nutsuckers do consistently.

Then someone sometime later makes a facebook page.

And the nutsuckers afore the fact of any discussion topic claim that the underground nutsuckerism is necessary because. because because.

And the fucking debate came off anyway.

much asswipe for nothing.


But the scheduled speech of the New York Police Chief did not. He was booed and shouted down off the stage by protestors who didn't want to hear what he had to say. That's fine but there were others that did.

Again, if you don't like what someone has to say, leave. Respect others who DO want to hear what someone has to say.

If someone can bring in a case of conservative students at a
taxpayer-funded university pulling the same crap on a liberal speaker, I'd say the same thing.

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RE: What do the protestors want? - 12/1/2015 3:05:44 PM   
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