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jlf1961 -> RE: The Nazi Leads the GOP Polls (12/4/2015 8:01:16 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
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I'm sorry, if I caught a terrorist who have planted bombs all over my country and I still don't know where those bombs are, and am trying to torture him for information. The man is willing to die and be tortured, because his gonna be rewarded by his 72 virgins in heaven. I am gonna torture his family infront of him to make him talk and find out where all the bombs are!
Trump is right. There is nothing that will break the toughest criminals like going after the one they love.
My country was built on sacrifice a few innocents for the greater good. So I believe in it.
My government could be considered Nazis too, but they really had the greater good in mind.
It's quite interesting in my country, when you read the comments column to that news, about 99.9% approve of Trump saying go after their families. I guess we been practicing it.
I think a friend of mine who was always puny in size and bullied all his life told me, there was this one guy targetting and tormenting him in school like crazy, and it was endless, both of them always fighting and hitting and taking revenge on each other. One day he broke, and he went to ambush and beat the crap out of the bully's father and he told the bully, that if he ever disturbed him again, his father will be dead the next time.
It worked. The bully left him alone.
Greta, I dont know what country you are in, not sure what universe you are in either, but that is beside the point.
Torture is not effective, never has been. The person being tortured will tell you what he/she thinks you want to hear, just to get it to stop.
The "credible" threats that torture alleged to have stopped during the Bush years had little in the way of documentation.
Allegedly, during the Vietnam conflict, intelligence officers allegedly took NVA and VC prisoners up in a helicopter in groups of four. They would throw one guy out without asking a single question, then they would ask the next guy, if he didnt answer immediately, he was tossed out the door.
Usually there was one that would talk, and if his information proved credible, that was the end of it. If it proved to be a bunch of bullshit, he was eliminated. Rumor has it that the news of this practice got around to the various communist units and it was, according to rumor, very effective.
However, all the stories are "a friend of a friend saw it."
The ARVN were very effective at getting decent intel, for a while, until it was noted that even if a prisoner divulged anything they were killed anyway.
Now, during the siege at Tobruk during ww2, the Aussie commander sent raiding parties out to harass the germans and bring back prisoners. Instead of direct interrogation, they talked to the prisoners, listening for outright lies. Of course the hidden microphones in the captured officer's quarters gave them a much better picture of what the Germans were up to.
The British used the same technique with captured uboat crewman and downed luftwaffe crews.
Of course, during WW2, the Americans used a even cruder technique, they often got german officer prisoners drunk, and as drunks often do, the men bragged their asses off.
Trump's problem is that he is an idiot. He actually believes the crap he is spouting.
And for those calling him a Nazi or Fascist, I have a problem....
I thought Obama was the nazi and fascist? Or is he just a commie socialist?
Personally, I think the whole lot of em are screwed up shit for brains idiots.
We need an old school politician, someone like Truman, Ike, JFK or Nixon (okay Nixon had watergate, but we pretty much knew he was a paranoid crook when he was VP.)
Hell I would vote for Ollie North before I would vote for the rest of them, even though he was a marine.
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