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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 1/27/2016 1:11:53 PM   
mnottertail


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very much in keeping with what im talking about yes...

and as to vile critter parts "liberals don't dislike competition?" ---no im not talking about monopolistic entities but rather competition in general

that's why liberals have the well earned reputation of seeking equality of outcomes as opposed to equality of opportunities, right?

you know, like how everyone in youth sports gets a trophy right? and official rules don't allow for score keeping? cant have winners and losers or set people with more excellence apart from others.

and they are all for competitive alternatives to public school education? (government monopolies are okay though right?)

or they try to stifle speech they don't like, rather than have them compete in the marketplace of ideas?

or when people compete for jobs, its not always the most qualified who gets it, head to head on the merits, but rather the one whose skin color or gender matters more.

or they support social/political ideologies (communism and socialism) where competition is minimized if not eliminated altogether.

are there other mitigating factors involved in those instances than just competition, yes, but its pretty hard to tease them all apart when the competition strain runs through so many things that liberals meddle with.




Shiteater44, no the non-sequiturs are not going to get your toiletlicking cockgargling well earned nutsucker reputation for monopolies and corporate catamitism communism out of the picture.

There is no reputation in reality of the nutsucker asswipe that equality of outcome is something that they have any clue of, but the child molesting nutsuckers certainly do not nurture equality of opportunity, nor real competition.

Look what they do as slaves of corporations and the rich, to insure there is no sort of equality of opportunity.

No, my communist friend, the well deserved reputation is that of nutsucker.

But before you start cockgargling about public schools, I will be forced to remind you that public education, as well as individual income tax is the baby of the nutsuckers. (since there are no republicans or conservatives any more).



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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 1/27/2016 1:18:47 PM   
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They voted to repeal the aca on the 62nd try... Obama vetoed it, and 11 million are now signed up...
Best news all week



Not for me - I can no longer afford insurance. Our insurance before ACA was $377 a month. It's now $1100 a month with a $5000 per person deductible.


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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 1/28/2016 9:33:02 AM   
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Yes I saw that you did.
I also saw you discussing your neighbour on minimum wage who has four kids..
I decided that that, was a subject I simply walked away from.
I am glad that millions who didnt have healthcare can now get it.
the fact that there are millions still falling between the cracks, is a major failure.
No, the plans arent perfect. THe fact that insurance still runs things annoys me no end.

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/8/2016 8:46:17 PM   
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Ah yes.. obamacare the gift that keeps on giving.

News out now from the CBO is that perperson subsidies will be $7700 dollars - with medical costs for the 27 million people to be covered projected at 900 billion. And leaving 31 million people uncovered.

10 million people previously covered with employer health care will lose their coverage. Seems to me that the number of uninsured.. when we started these shenaningans.. wasn't it 30 million peope.. so we're spending 2 trillion dollars and ending up with the same number of uninsured????

why yes, yes we are.

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/9/2016 7:33:00 AM   
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And the nutsuckers? What solution do they have, other than shitting their pants and felching?

You all think your shit don't stink, but your breath gives you away constantly.

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/9/2016 8:50:26 AM   
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You want a solution?

How about not spending 2 trillion dollars and NOT ending up with the same number of uninsured. Sounds like a good first step.

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/9/2016 9:04:39 AM   
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I dont see any current CBO numbers on the amount of uninsured, I do see several past ones that have it much lower than before ACA.

But I asked for a solution, and all you got is nutsuckerism.

How about how to deliver healthcare to all American Citizens, got a solution on that?

Cuz the nutsuckers on emails, benghazi, flint disaster, JadeHelm15, Border posturing, and tanks the military doesnt need, and there wasteful and useless military spending have went way over that.

The 2 trillion figure is pure nutsuckerism, no facts to back that up, just slobbering nutsuckerism, the CBO doesnt come to that figure.

So, again, cockgargling. No solutions.

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/17/2016 4:27:32 PM   
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What about insurance premiums? Long before the passage of the ACA President Obama "promised that his vision for health reform would ‘reduc[e]' premiums by as much as $2,500 per family." Yet as Pipes soberly reports, "premiums for the average family have surged by $4,865."

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RE: Latest news on Obama Care - 2/17/2016 9:23:28 PM   
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The biggest travesty of the ACA was that it was touted as a health care bill.

Mandatory insurance has nothing to do with being able to afford the inflated charges for health care in the U.S. Legally guaranteed income for health insurance companies has nothing to do with health care.

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