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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Here you were ridiculing bounty's assertion that segration in the north was different than segration in the south. Which you laughed at -poo pooing the assertion that they were different.

Suggesting that it was all racism.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a fucking duck.

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
Besides, much of what he said had already been refuted.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
Besides, much of what he said had already been refuted.

then you should have absolutely no problem taking all of his positions and arguments, clearly articulate them and refute them in alternating paragraphs so we all can see.

otherwise, your "argument" such as it is, holds absolutely no water.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

you said Colby's positions have been refuted. I haven't seen it. you have the opportunity to either show it, or do so yourself. if they haven't, or you cant, then you look like a fool saying otherwise.

"nanny nanny boo boo, I could, I just don't want to."

im completely capable of seeing another's point of view. what is not acceptable though is for you to reinvent the meanings of words to suit your fancy. you said Christians protesting in front of abortion places is them forcing their beliefs on others. the essence of my responses to you were all around either your seeming inability to understand what force is, or your misusing it in that instance. you've still not been able to answer the question or any of phydeaux's either.

and apparently you ignored the point of "protesting out in front..." is not the same as "outlawing..." answer I gave. that's called changing the goalposts.

and apparently you missed the "understand your own statement from the position of the unborn child" as a counter to your statement.

you have this grand habit of saying things that are unsupportable or that aren't true. if you would kindly stop doing it, then you wouldn't get challenged to show your evidence. I would think after the xth time you've been caught with your academic pants down, youd stop doing it.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Here you were ridiculing bounty's assertion that segration in the north was different than segration in the south. Which you laughed at -poo pooing the assertion that they were different.

Suggesting that it was all racism.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a fucking duck.

When you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Stop being a racist.

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

you said Colby's positions have been refuted. I haven't seen it. you have the opportunity to either show it, or do so yourself. if they haven't, or you cant, then you look like a fool saying otherwise.

"nanny nanny boo boo, I could, I just don't want to."

im completely capable of seeing another's point of view. what is not acceptable though is for you to reinvent the meanings of words to suit your fancy. you said Christians protesting in front of abortion places is them forcing their beliefs on others. the essence of my responses to you were all around either your seeming inability to understand what force is, or your misusing it in that instance. you've still not been able to answer the question or any of phydeaux's either.

and apparently you ignored the point of "protesting out in front..." is not the same as "outlawing..." answer I gave. that's called changing the goalposts.

and apparently you missed the "understand your own statement from the position of the unborn child" as a counter to your statement.

you have this grand habit of saying things that are unsupportable or that aren't true. if you would kindly stop doing it, then you wouldn't get challenged to show your evidence. I would think after the xth time you've been caught with your academic pants down, youd stop doing it.

You ignore logical argument

Outlawing abortions forces those that believe abortion to be ok to have their actions follow your beliefs. Are Christians being forced en masse to have abortions? No, you only choose to view the side of the argument you see, and then you parade what has been disproven as this flag of righteousness, no one can disprove you in your mind so you are right. At least Phydeaux has counter points

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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Here you were ridiculing bounty's assertion that segration in the north was different than segration in the south. Which you laughed at -poo pooing the assertion that they were different.

Suggesting that it was all racism.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a fucking duck.

When you're a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Stop being a racist.

Evidently, you are totally ignorant of and have never read Brown vs Board, Topeka. In your ignorance your only answer is to slander me by calling me a racist while I am claiming that America suffers from its treatment of people of color. I believe you have fallen down the rabbit's hole, Alice.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

you said Colby's positions have been refuted. I haven't seen it. you have the opportunity to either show it, or do so yourself. if they haven't, or you cant, then you look like a fool saying otherwise.

"nanny nanny boo boo, I could, I just don't want to."

im completely capable of seeing another's point of view. what is not acceptable though is for you to reinvent the meanings of words to suit your fancy. you said Christians protesting in front of abortion places is them forcing their beliefs on others. the essence of my responses to you were all around either your seeming inability to understand what force is, or your misusing it in that instance. you've still not been able to answer the question or any of phydeaux's either.

and apparently you ignored the point of "protesting out in front..." is not the same as "outlawing..." answer I gave. that's called changing the goalposts.

and apparently you missed the "understand your own statement from the position of the unborn child" as a counter to your statement.

you have this grand habit of saying things that are unsupportable or that aren't true. if you would kindly stop doing it, then you wouldn't get challenged to show your evidence. I would think after the xth time you've been caught with your academic pants down, youd stop doing it.

You ignore logical argument

Outlawing abortions forces those that believe abortion to be ok to have their actions follow your beliefs. Are Christians being forced en masse to have abortions? No, you only choose to view the side of the argument you see, and then you parade what has been disproven as this flag of righteousness, no one can disprove you in your mind so you are right. At least Phydeaux has counter points

I imagine i'll give up on you one day, but in the meantime, one more time---abortion is murder. when you can say that protesting and legislating against murder is forcing someone else's belief on the murderer, then i'll acquiesce. until then, you are starting from a premise that murder is okay.

and in case you missed it---that's the counter point to your statement.

by the way, repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't make it any more true.

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In your last few dozen posts you've pulled out the racist card dozens of times. You want to see the US as the most evil racist country in the world - no one can stop you. But in which case I would say to you - what have you done - personally- to fix the problem? And if you haven't why are you still here? Doesn't that make you complicit?

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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In your last few dozen posts you've pulled out the racist card dozens of times. You want to see the US as the most evil racist country in the world - no one can stop you. But in which case I would say to you - what have you done - personally- to fix the problem? And if you haven't why are you still here? Doesn't that make you complicit?

You are so fucking confused. On the one hand you say I am a racist but OTOH you say I have played the racist card because I repeatedly assert America has an abominable racist history and continues to be a racist society. You are flummoxed. can't make up your mind. Do you deny America continues to be a racist country? Or are you going to continue to dance around it with all your irrelevant comments? Which is your point?

I know what I have done and I know what I believe and who I am. No need to answer to you.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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In your last few dozen posts you've pulled out the racist card dozens of times. You want to see the US as the most evil racist country in the world - no one can stop you. But in which case I would say to you - what have you done - personally- to fix the problem? And if you haven't why are you still here? Doesn't that make you complicit?

You are so fucking confused. On the one hand you say I am a racist but OTOH you say I have played the racist card because I repeatedly assert America has an abominable racist history and continues to be a racist society. You are flummoxed. can't make up your mind. Do you deny America continues to be a racist country? Or are you going to continue to dance around it with all your irrelevant comments? Which is your point?

I know what I have done and I know what I believe and who I am. No need to answer to you.

LOL. You think racists can't play the racist card? To the contrary, I would say by definition everyone that plays the racist card is a racist.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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In your last few dozen posts you've pulled out the racist card dozens of times. You want to see the US as the most evil racist country in the world - no one can stop you. But in which case I would say to you - what have you done - personally- to fix the problem? And if you haven't why are you still here? Doesn't that make you complicit?

You are so fucking confused. On the one hand you say I am a racist but OTOH you say I have played the racist card because I repeatedly assert America has an abominable racist history and continues to be a racist society. You are flummoxed. can't make up your mind. Do you deny America continues to be a racist country? Or are you going to continue to dance around it with all your irrelevant comments? Which is your point?

I know what I have done and I know what I believe and who I am. No need to answer to you.

LOL. You think racists can't play the racist card? To the contrary, I would say by definition everyone that plays the racist card is a racist.

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

Bounty, if you want to argue that abortion is morally wrong, fine, I can understand that

However, outlawing abortion would force people's actions to follow your beliefs, and I will argue that until the end of time

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No because abortion is a legal medical procedure.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

Bounty, if you want to argue that abortion is morally wrong, fine, I can understand that

However, outlawing abortion would force people's actions to follow your beliefs, and I will argue that until the end of time

So if I was an atheist advocating that abortion is wrong, you'd have no problem with it?