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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 11:59:48 AM   
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Yes, I am a fitness trainer, and part of my job is to educate my clients. Many people have misconceptions about health and make statements that aren't true, just like you do. Unless you pay me, or wish to be my submissive, I have no intention of educating you. However, your false statements would make any fitness trainer's hair curl behind the neck. So this is free education:

MUSCLE IS NOT HEAVIER THAN FAT!!!!!!!!!
Muscle has a much greater density than fat, but it's not heavier.
http://greatist.com/fitness/does-muscle-weigh-more-fat

And again, you contribute to posts that have nothing to do with the subject matter.
The post was about double standards for both men and women.
1. If she/he demanded that his/her partner had to have a certain IQ
2. And then someone demanded that she/he must be a certain height
3. And then he/she balked and said you are shallow - that's double standard

As I tend to be curious about all sorts of things, I did some research after one of your recent posts to find out just what it takes to be a fitness trainer. Since you specifically mentioned your employer in another thread, I wanted to see just how much or how little of a requirement it would be for the chain to mention to hire you in that position.

Needless to say, I was not impressed. The certification requires very little, and in fact, the written test can be taken without any specific education regarding health or fitness.

The ability to run a class is done differently. There is no background on interpersonal skills whatsoever. As long as you can continue a certain amount of momentum for an established time, you can pass. This says nothing about skills in customer service or membership appreciation.

You do have to have a knowledge of the equipment for physical safety. I would have to think that would be standard, as malfunctioning equipment holds a liability. I don't find this to be that big of a deal because anybody can tighten weights.

In short, you are not really an educator. Formal training to become one is only thirty or ninety days, depending on the program.



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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 12:12:26 PM   
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What you are failing to understand is what someone weighs is a much more personal question than how tall are you.


Is it? Why?

I'm not sure if anyone's ever asked my weight - I'd be surprised if it were to happen - but it wouldn't trouble me to answer. Do you mean it's a very personal question for (a few/some/lots of) women?

I think it has to do with the way society views a woman's worth by her looks, weight or age and has throughout history. While men lately have been judged more on those criteria, for the most part men haven't been judged that way. Men were typically judged by their ability to provide stability or status.

So, I wonder how the OP would have felt if the woman in question had asked him about his income, account balance or credit rating.





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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 12:19:25 PM   
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In short, you are not really an educator. Formal training to become one is only thirty or ninety days, depending on the program.




Funny story: I have a friend that has a BS in Kinesiology "Kinesiology is the study of human motion, with a particular focus on improving health through movement. "

He was in one of the gym's owned by the OPs employer working out with his brother - and the facility threw him out and banned him because he contradicted what the staff was telling their members, when he was instructing his brother.


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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 1:39:58 PM   
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So, I wonder how the OP would have felt if the woman in question had asked him about his income, account balance or credit rating.



I'm getting the impression that you don't grasp what "double standards" are. Let me give you an example.

1a. A married woman does not have a job because she feels that it is the mans place to support his family and survives on his paycheck. ACCEPTABLE
1b. A married man does not have a job because he feels that it is the woman's place to support her family and survives on her paycheck. LABLED AS AN ABUSIVE HUSBAND WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF HIS WIFE


Are you able to grasp this? If not, I'll give more examples.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 1:44:51 PM   
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So, I wonder how the OP would have felt if the woman in question had asked him about his income, account balance or credit rating.



I'm getting the impression that you don't grasp what "double standards" are. Let me give you an example.

1a. A married woman does not have a job because she feels that it is the mans place to support his family and survives on his paycheck. ACCEPTABLE
1b. A married man does not have a job because he feels that it is the woman's place to support her family and survives on her paycheck. LABLED AS AN ABUSIVE HUSBAND WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF HIS WIFE


Are you able to grasp this? If not, I'll give more examples.

Are you able to grasp that I was specifically replying to the question that Peon had posed?

Hence the "quote" boxes. If you can't grasp replying to a specific posters question, I'll give more examples.



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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 2:05:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I doubt it's worth your effort to provide more examples, it appears the OP's muscles are in his head, hence his not having a clue.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 2:27:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		The reality is that while the OP may sexually desire females, he doesn't like them.

It's evidenced in every post he's made: Women are rude, women have double standards, women don't listen, women listen better when they're punched.

It's also evidence by how he talks to them: When I started to lecture, no matter how much I preach.

It's also evidenced by how he communicates to the women on the forums: If a woman goes off subject, he objects. If a man goes off topic, he says nothing. He's condescending and pedantic, as evidenced by his latest go at me.

We'll also notice that the last submissive that he whined about in the "Women are so rude" thread is already gone and he's still looking to find a partner.

He has yet to see that he repeats his cycle over and over and take responsibility for his contributions to the situations.




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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 2:52:26 PM   
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The reality is that while the OP may sexually desire females, he doesn't like them.

It's evidenced in every post he's made: Women are rude, women have double standards, women don't listen, women listen better when they're punched.

It's also evidence by how he talks to them: When I started to lecture, no matter how much I preach.

It's also evidenced by how he communicates to the women on the forums: If a woman goes off subject, he objects. If a man goes off topic, he says nothing. He's condescending and pedantic, as evidenced by his latest go at me.

We'll also notice that the last submissive that he whined about in the "Women are so rude" thread is already gone and he's still looking to find a partner.

He has yet to see that he repeats his cycle over and over and take responsibility for his contributions to the situations.






It looks like I hit a nerve. BTW, since your into character assassination, I could do the same to you. But I won't because I'm above that.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 3:01:03 PM   
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The reality is that while the OP may sexually desire females, he doesn't like them.

It's evidenced in every post he's made: Women are rude, women have double standards, women don't listen, women listen better when they're punched.

It's also evidence by how he talks to them: When I started to lecture, no matter how much I preach.

It's also evidenced by how he communicates to the women on the forums: If a woman goes off subject, he objects. If a man goes off topic, he says nothing. He's condescending and pedantic, as evidenced by his latest go at me.

We'll also notice that the last submissive that he whined about in the "Women are so rude" thread is already gone and he's still looking to find a partner.

He has yet to see that he repeats his cycle over and over and take responsibility for his contributions to the situations.






It looks like I hit a nerve. BTW, since your into character assassination, I could do the same to you. But I won't because I'm above that.



You're confusing educated opinion with character assassination.

It's a simple truth is that the theme of every single one of your posts is "women suck". The misogyny is obvious.

It's interesting that you consider yourself above character assassination, but you think that women will listen to you better if they're punched.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 3:33:05 PM   
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So, I wonder how the OP would have felt if the woman in question had asked him about his income, account balance or credit rating.


I would indeed think that I have some hideous sort of woman on my hands should she ask questions of that nature. It would instantly trigger that feeling of 'You need to find a different sort of man entirely, because your idea of a relationship is anathema to me'.

It's odd, really. I'm a malesub and I've developed all sorts of assumptions that, perhaps, the average male won't have developed. I could handle all sorts of questions about my body, for instance - and even vaguely expect them (though, actually, most femdoms don't ask such questions) - but the size of my pay-packet .... No. I would start to think that the woman in question is missing something somewhat fundamental about what it means to be a dominant woman.

For me, a dominant woman will be a feminist and will have no doubts about that whatsoever. That's just a baseline, too. I can't and won't deal with non-feminist women. I've just come to find them tiring and basically depressing.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 3:37:29 PM   
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I'm a malesub and I've developed all sorts of assumptions that, perhaps, the average male won't have developed. I could handle all sorts of questions about my body, for instance - and even vaguely expect them (though, actually, most femdoms don't ask such questions) -


I'm making up a list of personal questions to email to you....please send pictures!

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 3:59:54 PM   
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What you are failing to understand is what someone weighs is a much more personal question than how tall are you.


Is it? Why?

I'm not sure if anyone's ever asked my weight - I'd be surprised if it were to happen - but it wouldn't trouble me to answer. Do you mean it's a very personal question for (a few/some/lots of) women?



Weight means fuck all, I'd be happy to answer questions about my size, depending on how well we know each other even measurements but to be reduced to what the scale says, regardless of proportions, how tones I am, how much of body fat I have, that just would tell me the person asking is a complete and utter idiot, if the person asking that would claim to be a fitness professional, I would assume mental deficiency and move on, I don't tend to waste time on people who are a bit deficient when it comes to brains.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 4:25:09 PM   
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What you are failing to understand is what someone weighs is a much more personal question than how tall are you.


Is it? Why?

I'm not sure if anyone's ever asked my weight - I'd be surprised if it were to happen - but it wouldn't trouble me to answer. Do you mean it's a very personal question for (a few/some/lots of) women?



Weight means fuck all, I'd be happy to answer questions about my size, depending on how well we know each other even measurements but to be reduced to what the scale says, regardless of proportions, how tones I am, how much of body fat I have, that just would tell me the person asking is a complete and utter idiot, if the person asking that would claim to be a fitness professional, I would assume mental deficiency and move on, I don't tend to waste time on people who are a bit deficient when it comes to brains.


I just ask, as delicately as I can, 'Do you have a good arse?' Simples!


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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 4:38:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		We have met and if your reply doesn't freaking indicate that I do have actually a fantastic one, I will put a knee where it really hurts ;)

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 4:41:23 PM   
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We have met and if your reply doesn't freaking indicate that I do have actually a fantastic one, I will put a knee where it really hurts ;)


I looked at neither your jacksie nor your warheads, Lady C. You have a husband and we were meeting as *friends*!

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 4:45:01 PM   
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We have met and if your reply doesn't freaking indicate that I do have actually a fantastic one, I will put a knee where it really hurts ;)


I looked at neither your jacksie nor your warheads, Lady C. You have a husband and we were meeting as *friends*!


I wasn't aware that it turned you blind, since you asked me (as friends) if I had work done. mind you by that time you also had the better part of several bottles of wine and some gin, and I might have yelled across the fence if we could borrow a shirt as we want to go camping to the neighbour who claims my dogs are people eating monsters

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 4:49:17 PM   
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I wasn't aware that it turned you blind, since you asked me (as friends) if I had work done. mind you by that time you also had the better part of several bottles of wine and some gin, and I might have yelled across the fence if we could borrow a shirt as we want to go camping to the neighbour who claims my dogs are people eating monsters


Jesus, did I ask that? Bloody hell, I must have had a skin full. Feck! How embarrassing.

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 5:23:51 PM   
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I wasn't aware that it turned you blind, since you asked me (as friends) if I had work done. mind you by that time you also had the better part of several bottles of wine and some gin, and I might have yelled across the fence if we could borrow a shirt as we want to go camping to the neighbour who claims my dogs are people eating monsters


Jesus, did I ask that? Bloody hell, I must have had a skin full. Feck! How embarrassing.



If I recall rightly you went "Are those tits real of did you buy them?"

Come on, at least admit my lasange was damned good, H keeps asking when you come back as he laughed himself silly with you, especially the convo you overheard and repeated from the bus stop.

Btw nasty neighbour now moved away, though got evil looks when I complimented her on her Halloween costume, I honestly thought she wore one, oh well, my eyesight is bad ;)

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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 5:54:50 PM   
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I wasn't aware that it turned you blind, since you asked me (as friends) if I had work done. mind you by that time you also had the better part of several bottles of wine and some gin, and I might have yelled across the fence if we could borrow a shirt as we want to go camping to the neighbour who claims my dogs are people eating monsters


Jesus, did I ask that? Bloody hell, I must have had a skin full. Feck! How embarrassing.



If I recall rightly you went "Are those tits real of did you buy them?"

Come on, at least admit my lasange was damned good, H keeps asking when you come back as he laughed himself silly with you, especially the convo you overheard and repeated from the bus stop.

Btw nasty neighbour now moved away, though got evil looks when I complimented her on her Halloween costume, I honestly thought she wore one, oh well, my eyesight is bad ;)


Huw was great. I concluded that he was a good man - I liked him a lot. I have no memory of that comment about your chest nor repeating an awkward convo. Feckenell! Was I really that trolleyed so much of the time?

I'm glad that that PIA neighbour's moved away now. It's OK when annoying people are to be seen around town - it's to be expected. But, god, you don't need them right next door. I had a an alky meathead living next door at one time, followed by an airheaded woman with a giant stereo who didn't give a flying toss about how the noise of her shitty music (it was all R&B stuff by females with whining and caterwauling voices squealing about how they enjoyed being/wanted to be/missed being/ humped by some man or another) was forever invading my space and giving me toothache.


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RE: Double Standards - 1/15/2016 5:57:56 PM   
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