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AnglFlw -> RE: Double Standards (1/28/2016 10:47:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamlady Do you really think that beauty pageants epitomize the height of public appreciation for a woman's true value or celebrate her individual worth? DreamLady Sounds like someone really just wanted a tiara!

dreamlady -> RE: Double Standards (1/28/2016 11:18:41 PM)
You could start with the big woolly bear category. Might be able to drum up some interest with that. [:-] DreamLady

respectmen -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 1:07:39 AM)
Dreamlady Oh, okay. So just saying that fat women are more accepted in society compared to fat men, it means I have womb envy, pussy envy, and sexual objectification envy. I would love to see your logical explanation to all of this so I can laugh more at your pathetic attempt at intimidating me. quote: Do you really think that beauty pageants epitomize the height of public appreciation for a woman's true value or celebrate her individual worth? Ah... so why do they have them again? Just to degrade women or just for the fun of it? You really don't think much, don't you? Could it be because they appreciate the woman's body? If you think that is oppressive, appreciating the woman's body is oppressive, that is fucking laughable. Oh no, I am so oppressed because others find my body attractive. waaah waaah waaah. Jesus fucking christ. Speaking of double standards, just imagine if a man claimed he felt oppressed because women admired his body? He would get laughed at.

Staleek -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 6:57:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen Could it be because they leer over the woman's body? I fixed that for you. It isn't about oppression, it's about respect. You're completely missing the point here. Finding attractive women attractive is fine and dandy. Sure some women will get uppity about that, but that's just histrionics. Beauty pagents are more about putting a bunch of women on display and judging which of them is the one you'd most like to shoot DNA into. It's not unlike looking at the best side of meat in a farmers market. The fact that these sorts of things exist degrade women in general and serve to destroy the self esteem of those women that our cultural norms have deemed less attractive:- "Mrs Antarctica wins! This is the female that males would like to fuck the most! This is prime breeding material, the rest of you are not."

dreamlady -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 2:36:04 PM)
Nicky, I would have to care about you in order to want to try to intimidate you. [8D] Let me count all the ways in which you have demonstrated that you have womb & pussy envy over the years on these message boards. . . . You envy females and the manifold "privileges" you perceive that we have over that of males. This about sums it up. You are the proverbial pot calling the kettle (radical feminists) black because your ethical compass is broken. Please don't tell me now that you begrudge kiddie pageant princesses for the sicko oversexualization of little girls (and they do admit little boys into those, also). I'll be nice, though, and not allege that you secretly wish you had not been born a male since you believe that females have it SO MUCH EASIER in life than males do, and that life is just SO HARD for you and your Gen-X compadrés . DreamLady Edit - typo

respectmen -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 2:51:11 PM)
quote: You envy females and the manifold "privileges" you perceive that we have over that of males. This about sums it up. So with no sexist double standards/hypocrisy in play, that must mean all feminists/women have "penis envy" whenever they complain about "male privilege". [:D]

dreamlady -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 2:59:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen quote: ORIGINAL: dreamlady You envy females and the manifold "privileges" you perceive that we have over that of males. This about sums it up. So with no sexist double standards/hypocrisy in play, that must mean all feminists/women have "penis envy" whenever they complain about "male privilege". [:D] Only the ones who wish they weren't women and had been born a man instead. :p DreamLady

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Double Standards (1/29/2016 3:04:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen quote: You envy females and the manifold "privileges" you perceive that we have over that of males. This about sums it up. So with no sexist double standards/hypocrisy in play, that must mean all feminists/women have "penis envy" whenever they complain about "male privilege". [:D] This is your problem Nick. You generalise things soooo much that you feel oppressed and down-trodden instead of the reality that only some, a very small minority, actually do what you claim most women do. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried.

PeonForHer -> RE: Double Standards (1/30/2016 1:55:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen quote: You envy females and the manifold "privileges" you perceive that we have over that of males. This about sums it up. So with no sexist double standards/hypocrisy in play, that must mean all feminists/women have "penis envy" whenever they complain about "male privilege". [:D] This is your problem Nick. You generalise things soooo much that you feel oppressed and down-trodden instead of the reality that only some, a very small minority, actually do what you claim most women do. You couldn't be further from the truth if you tried. Nick is too slack-brained and lazy to define who his enemy is, FD. He doesn't care about helping men, either. He just hates feminists - however he defines that term - and wants all the rest of us to hate them, too. That's only ever been his purpose on posting anything at all on CM. The really pitiful thing is that even other right wing feminist-despisers have no time for him or his sort, either. They just get on with their misogynist lives, taking whatever they want from women and not giving a flying fuck about them. (Indeed, why would they bother to do otherwise, when there are still enough candy-floss brained, right wing female ninnies around for them to hump and dump?) The somewhat depressing truth is that Nick's "anti-feminism" isn't just despised by feminists and their supporters, it's despised by the gang of right wing misogynist turds of which Nick would eagerly love to be accepted as a member, too.

bounty44 -> RE: Double Standards (1/30/2016 2:17:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer They [the "right wing feminist despisers] just get on with their misogynist lives, taking whatever they want from women and not giving a flying fuck about them. (Indeed, why would they bother to do otherwise, when there are still enough candy-floss brained, right wing female ninnies around for them to hump and dump?)...the gang of right wing misogynist turds... I cant imagine what im about to say going over very well, but that reads just like it could have been written by joether, lucy, mnottertail, tweakabelle or Thompson in whose company I am really sorry to see you---I thought you were both wiser and better than that.

Greta75 -> RE: Double Standards (2/1/2016 8:28:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen What I see a lot is that overweight women are usually praised while overweight men are deemed nothing more than fat losers. There is BBW appreciation and admiration all over the place. Just do one google search on BBW and there will be endless results that show admiration for BBWs. There are even beauty pageants for BBWs. Not to mention, even SSBBWs would get more admiration on this site than the average male. Does such appreciation exist for overweight men? Fuck no. Another round of applause for female privilege. I love how you have been ignoring my adoration for overweight men. I LOVE overweight men! Bring them to me!

dreamlady -> RE: Double Standards (2/3/2016 9:38:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: respectmen What I see a lot is that overweight women are usually praised while overweight men are deemed nothing more than fat losers. There is BBW appreciation and admiration all over the place. Just do one google search on BBW and there will be endless results that show admiration for BBWs. There are even beauty pageants for BBWs. Not to mention, even SSBBWs would get more admiration on this site than the average male. Does such appreciation exist for overweight men? Fuck no. Another round of applause for female privilege. I love how you have been ignoring my adoration for overweight men. I LOVE overweight men! Bring them to me! How convenient that he chooses to ignore your sentiment. Nicky, unless you have some irrefutable proof to the contrary, men tend to be more of the extreme variety of fetishist. Hence the "celebration" of BBWs which is quite common among male submissives. I won't say that women don't have our own fetishes. In general, we tend to be more selective, in that fetish criteria is not the cart that leads the horse. For example, I used to have a (vanilla) fetish for men with well-groomed facial hair when I was younger. Still do, to some extent. But when I was younger, I absolutely couldn't find myself sexually attracted to virtually any clean-shaven men. Dunno why, but that did change or shift in time. However, there are a combination of factors. Notice I said 'well-groomed' -- scruffy is a turn-off (no Grizzly Adams, definitely not the ZZ Top look). Having a 3-4 day prickly shadow can also be a turn-off or it can be a sexy turn-on, just depends on if the guy can carry it off. Now, I won't go so far as to say I go for overweight men; however, I have never found a skinny or slim man to be sexually attractive to me, nor a bodybuilder buff type. He has to have some meat on his bones, some muscle tone but not an artificially developed (pumped-up) physique. In other words, more on the "average" side, appearance-wise. It's what's upstairs that matters more to me, as well as having a good sense of humor, being an interesting and responsive conversationalist, and having a charming and likeable disposition. Without these qualities and personality traits, none of the rest carries any weight (no pun intended) on my sex-o-meter. And until that meter registers a reading, my next tier of considerations doesn't kick in. You are perhaps overly fixated with the superficial and letting the shallow perceptions of pop culture rule your life, which is truly a sad state. Understandable for a young person still in his or her 20s, but you're in your 30s and should have individuated by now; this unhealthy obsession you have with male vs. female adversarial dynamics has stunted your emotional growth. If it doesn't serve to make you a better person, a better-functioning person, then let it go. DreamLady

OsideGirl -> RE: Double Standards (2/3/2016 9:41:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamlady Nicky, unless you have some irrefutable proof to the contrary, men tend to be more of the extreme variety of fetishist. Hence the "celebration" of BBWs which is quite common among male submissives. I say this to every guy that bitches about women getting out of traffic tickets: Who is letting them off? It's not other women. It's men! So, if you have an issue with women being treated favorably by other men...take it up with the men.

pallacastarlight -> RE: Double Standards (2/4/2016 11:14:47 AM)
She is perfectly entitled to have preferences, and you are equally perfectly entitled to have preferences. It cuts both ways. Not all tall women have a fixation on height. I am a hair under 6' myself but I have dated and dominated men taller and shorter than me. I don't care about a man's height!

crazyml -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 11:21:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer They [the "right wing feminist despisers] just get on with their misogynist lives, taking whatever they want from women and not giving a flying fuck about them. (Indeed, why would they bother to do otherwise, when there are still enough candy-floss brained, right wing female ninnies around for them to hump and dump?)...the gang of right wing misogynist turds... I cant imagine what im about to say going over very well, but that reads just like it could have been written by joether, lucy, mnottertail, tweakabelle or Thompson in whose company I am really sorry to see you---I thought you were both wiser and better than that. Oh fuck me. I can only imagine how much you've just humbled Peon, and how fucking broken up he must be feeling right now.

ilovestarbucks -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 3:22:37 PM)
I got a double standard situation. You wait patiently for the other person, maybe this person is always 40 minutes late. Every time. But if you're 10 minutes late they yell at you!

dreamlady -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 4:18:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks I got a double standard situation. You wait patiently for the other person, maybe this person is always 40 minutes late. Every time. But if you're 10 minutes late they yell at you! And you put up with that, because. . . this person is your boss? (Tough luck, cuz being higher in authority professionally has its perks.) A close relative, or a vanilla gf? (Not that you should have to put up with this sort of disrespectful behavior from them, even if they do pay some of your bills, and at 20 you can hardly be expected to be financially independent or solvent just yet.) One of the most important things an individual can do is to establish boundaries and then reinforce those personal boundaries vigilantly. It's a never-ending process; that, and determining when not to sweat the small stuff. This is especially important for a Dominant because blurry boundaries and sending mixed signals is confounding for submissive personalities looking for a partner to be in charge of them. I say this to you because in your profile, you say you used to be a submissive but now you're Dominant. Btw, you might want to update your Actively Seeking category. [&:] DreamLady

PeonForHer -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 6:50:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer They [the "right wing feminist despisers] just get on with their misogynist lives, taking whatever they want from women and not giving a flying fuck about them. (Indeed, why would they bother to do otherwise, when there are still enough candy-floss brained, right wing female ninnies around for them to hump and dump?)...the gang of right wing misogynist turds... I cant imagine what im about to say going over very well, but that reads just like it could have been written by joether, lucy, mnottertail, tweakabelle or Thompson in whose company I am really sorry to see you---I thought you were both wiser and better than that. I'm surprised you didn't know me better than you did.

ilovestarbucks -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 10:16:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dreamlady quote: ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks I got a double standard situation. You wait patiently for the other person, maybe this person is always 40 minutes late. Every time. But if you're 10 minutes late they yell at you! And you put up with that, because. . . this person is your boss? (Tough luck, cuz being higher in authority professionally has its perks.) A close relative, or a vanilla gf? (Not that you should have to put up with this sort of disrespectful behavior from them, even if they do pay some of your bills, and at 20 you can hardly be expected to be financially independent or solvent just yet.) One of the most important things an individual can do is to establish boundaries and then reinforce those personal boundaries vigilantly. It's a never-ending process; that, and determining when not to sweat the small stuff. This is especially important for a Dominant because blurry boundaries and sending mixed signals is confounding for submissive personalities looking for a partner to be in charge of them. I say this to you because in your profile, you say you used to be a submissive but now you're Dominant. Btw, you might want to update your Actively Seeking category. [&:] DreamLady healthy boundaries don't exist these days!!! if u assert urself they tell u to fuck off the more healthy boundaries u assert then no one wants to be around you. no one wants to be called on in their own shit

Greta75 -> RE: Double Standards (2/5/2016 10:43:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ilovestarbucks healthy boundaries don't exist these days!!! if u assert urself they tell u to fuck off the more healthy boundaries u assert then no one wants to be around you. no one wants to be called on in their own shit People who don't practice double standards do exist. You just need to dump these friends who would yell at you for being 10 minutes late and choose friends who don't do that to you. None of my friends and me yell at each other when we are late. We are always understanding about it. Especially women to women. Super understanding about each other running late. With men, it depends on if they were fucking me, ha! Platonic men generally are less understanding and would get mad at me... ha! But it's no big deal. That's why they are platonic :) They are mean! Who wants to sleep with someone who would yell at you. But I also ditch girlfriends who yell at me. It's your life. You have full control to choose who you want and do not want to be a part of it.

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