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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 1:06:12 PM   
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The only thing that got to me was the grips. Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds? The only thing that gets to me is the grip definitions. How you grip a gun doesn't change much, unless they are trying to avoid the high powered concealable weapons, like ban on sawed off shotguns

Vitually everything in every ban law is based on apperance, not criminal use.
When is the last time you heard of a crime committed with a grenade launcher or incendiary rounds.
BTW most rounds, particularly explosives, for grenade launchers, ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 2:32:48 PM   
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Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds?
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Have you shot a .50 caliber incendiary round (warning: YouTube link)? They're a lot of fun.

On a slightly more serious note, do we really want the government dictating what one can and cannot have? Does anyone need a 400+ horsepower vehicle when the speed limits are under 75mph? Does anyone need a 2000+ square foot home?

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 2:38:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

The only thing that got to me was the grips. Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds? The only thing that gets to me is the grip definitions. How you grip a gun doesn't change much, unless they are trying to avoid the high powered concealable weapons, like ban on sawed off shotguns

Vitually everything in every ban law is based on apperance, not criminal use.
When is the last time you heard of a crime committed with a grenade launcher or incendiary rounds.
BTW most rounds, particularly explosives, for grenade launchers, ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL.


The state of texas against the branch dividians


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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 3:09:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler

The only thing that got to me was the grips. Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds? The only thing that gets to me is the grip definitions. How you grip a gun doesn't change much, unless they are trying to avoid the high powered concealable weapons, like ban on sawed off shotguns

Vitually everything in every ban law is based on apperance, not criminal use.
When is the last time you heard of a crime committed with a grenade launcher or incendiary rounds.
BTW most rounds, particularly explosives, for grenade launchers, ARE ALREADY ILLEGAL.


The state of texas against the branch dividians


Ok, a crime by a civilian.
And it was the Feds, not the state of Texas.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 4:05:06 PM   
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brainfart yeh, yer right

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 4:23:14 PM   
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brainfart yeh, yer right

Happens to all of us, but some aren't big enough to admit it.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/24/2016 9:47:53 PM   
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Or a good day in chicago.



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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 4:17:10 AM   
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Maybe you should join these "girls"

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 4:22:51 AM   
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IM not going to open a new gun thread...
PEARL RIVER COUNTY, MS (WLOX) -
The name of the victims killed in a shootout at a Pearl River County gun shop last night have been released.

According to Pearl River County Sheriff David Allison, 44-year old Jason McLemore, who owned McLemore Gun Shop, and his 17-year old son Jacob, were killed after a disagreement with two customers.

The two customers -- who are also a father-son pair -- were both injured during the altercation. McLemore and his teenage son were pronounced dead at the scene.

Authorities say that Michael McCool, 29, is the alleged shooter, accused of shooting both victims using a 40-caliber pistol. However, no charges have been brought against anyone at this time.

According to Sheriff Allison, Audy McCool, 52, and his son Michael McCool, went to the shop to retrieve a weapon around 3:15 p.m. After being told it was not repaired, one of the men reportedly became agitated over paying a $25 service charge even though his gun was not fixed.

The wife of Jason McLemore, who was at the counter when the customers came in, called her husband and son to de-escalate the situation. Both father and son pairs began to argue, resorting to physical violence and, eventually, gunfire.

McLemore is reported to have had an unholstered nine-millimeter handgun by his side when he was shot, but there are no details on whether it was ever drawn or fired.

According to Sheriff Allison, Audy McCool was found walking around, bleeding from what happeared to be a wound on his back, when authorities arrived. However, investigators are still unsure how he was injured. He was taken into surgery at Forrest General Hospital, but Sheriff Allison says there has not been an update on his condition.

Michael McCool was in stable condition in the intensive care unit at University Hospital in New Orleans as of 10:30 p.m. Saturday, said Sheriff Allison.

The shooting is still under investigation.

http://www.wlox.com/story/31043023/more-details-names-released-in-gun-shop-shooting


Fox news link

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/24/sheriff-gun-shop-shootout-over-25-kills-2-wounds-2.html?intcmp=hplnws
Who was the good guy with the gun?

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 7:20:58 AM   
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As Lucy tends to only report firearm news in a negative light:

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ORIGINAL: http://wach.com/news/local/suspect-shot-by-patron-during-attempted-armed-robbery-at-columbia-barber-shop

Suspect shot during attempted armed robbery at Columbia barber shop

COLUMBIA, SC (WACH) - Columbia Police are on scene at a shooting at the Next Up Barber Shop at Fort Jackson Boulevard.

Dispatch first received a call about an armed robbery at the shop just before 7pm. That call soon changed to a shots fired call.

According to witnesses inside, two armed men entered the shop in an attempt to commit a robbery.

They took money from several victims before someone inside fired shots at the suspects.

One of the armed robbers has been taken to the hospital to treat an apparent gunshot wound.

Columbia Police are still trying to locate the second suspect.

None of the victims were injured in the shooting.

CPD is still actively investigating at the scene and interviewing witnesses.

Anyone with further information is asked to call CrimeStoppers 1-888-CRIME-SC.



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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 7:22:16 AM   
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Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds?
...


Have you shot a .50 caliber incendiary round (warning: YouTube link)? They're a lot of fun.

On a slightly more serious note, do we really want the government dictating what one can and cannot have? Does anyone need a 400+ horsepower vehicle when the speed limits are under 75mph? Does anyone need a 2000+ square foot home?



So what's your stance on heroin?

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 7:35:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: DominantWrestler
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Who need an under barrel grenade launcher or incendiary '50 cal rounds?
...


Have you shot a .50 caliber incendiary round (warning: YouTube link)? They're a lot of fun.

On a slightly more serious note, do we really want the government dictating what one can and cannot have? Does anyone need a 400+ horsepower vehicle when the speed limits are under 75mph? Does anyone need a 2000+ square foot home?



So what's your stance on heroin?


The government's failed 40 year war on drugs has cost taxpayers billions, has made cartels just as much money, and has increased violence from both cartels and law enforcement. Are drugs any harder to purchase now? Law enforcement has been "policing for profit" based on laws born out of the war on drugs and designed to combat illegal drug trafficking. Do you not value your Fourth Amendment rights?

tl;dr: If you really want to put heroin in your body, it's your body.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 8:52:51 AM   
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Nope I'm more of the wake up and save your children school... you know the 3 year old and the 9 years old and the 11 year old African American children murdered in St Louis in the last few months...how about you?

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 12:13:24 PM   
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I doubt the brits are trying to sell y'all on anything..


The Brits Aussies and Canadians on this forum have been trying to sell us gun control on just about, if not every gun thread. I have little doubt on that. Unfortunately, some Americans have been trying to sell it too.


I dont.. trying to sell y'all on that is pointless and a waste of time, plus no one can sell ya on something you dont want.. Exactly whats in it for Brits or Aussies or Canadians if you adopt their model or not? not a damn thing.. so why would they need to sell ya on it??? (not that they ever could anyway) If other Americans are trying to sell ya on it, then thats between y'all..

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 2:13:19 PM   
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I doubt the brits are trying to sell y'all on anything..


The Brits Aussies and Canadians on this forum have been trying to sell us gun control on just about, if not every gun thread. I have little doubt on that. Unfortunately, some Americans have been trying to sell it too.


I dont.. trying to sell y'all on that is pointless and a waste of time, plus no one can sell ya on something you dont want.. Exactly whats in it for Brits or Aussies or Canadians if you adopt their model or not? not a damn thing.. so why would they need to sell ya on it??? (not that they ever could anyway) If other Americans are trying to sell ya on it, then thats between y'all..

Then why are you, and they so emphatic about telling us how irrational and stupid we are not to do it thier way? Is it just a matter of ego?

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 6:34:42 PM   
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No Mean Citya finer book I have read. But it was a good book I just cannot remember a bloody thing about it due to my ongoing senility, raving lunacy issues and gargantuanion-hmm why is the not a word of my man parts.


No Mean City is a 1935 novel by H. Kingsley Long, a journalist, and Alexander McArthur, an unemployed worker. It is an account of life in the Gorbals, a run-down slum district of Glasgow (now mostly demolished, but re-built in a contemporary style) with the hard men and the razor gangs.


The Warriors Trailer Caaan you dig it - he says in voice of timbre.

Guns kill - end of story - there is no counter argument for their prolific ownership in America and the chaos and plethora (even that word does not do the carnage justice)souls they depart from this mortal coil do you actually believe they can get accurate figures from America regarding Gun death & violence - hmm

But here is curious story that made me laugh and weep. Guns in the US: The statistics behind the violence
Nuggets from the not tall tale
1. The home front: So many people die annually from gunfire in the US that the death toll between 1968 and 2011 eclipses all wars ever fought by the country. According to research by Politifact, there were about 1.4 million firearm deaths in that period, compared with 1.2 million US deaths in every conflict from the War of Independence to Iraq. Just deaths mind.
I could go on a cite wiki stats - I wept the first time I looked at them and made my first reply to a guns thread where some clown rambled incoherent nonsense. And I enquired many things eg why he needed so many guns if he had but two hands and wondered why he thought people killed people not the actual gun. And if was true if I could purchase a bazookah, sherman tank 4 pack muffins at his local store and a mace so I could reprogram him, rigorously vigorously.

Where gun ownership is more readily accessible, easy to get etc then Death rates are higher last time I checked 40 fold higher than in the UK..true sameish legal system.. I like when someone cites the second amendment, fails to mention the patriot act spying on everyone - a rampant paranoia that surpassed the Soviets of old and that awful book War and Peace not that I got past page 60 on account of my brain leaving my head at the hurryup and in the manner known as violent.

More than one link is an investment of my time...I pretty much think none on here, or any other thread, anywhere, will change their minds-saves those who unfortunately experience it first hand.

here is a better link, wicked second favourtie clip of all time who can name his first - or does noone pay attention to his mad rambles? as I find my post depressing, pointless futile, factually accurate and with a few smiles. And some previous, and latter no doubt, points of view invalid and nonsensical, with so many omissions

Bionic Bigfoot Fight Scene - Six Million Dollar Man
Fu*kity me they just dont make TV like that nowadays

Did Steve need a fu*king tommy gun to defeat a robotic Alien sasquatch
No he did not


Muffin edit as I feel quantity of souls is omitted
Wiki page

Annual gun deaths in America perhaps 40 000 per year - I have never been able to glean an accurate figure....→ More than 100,000 people in America are shot in murders, assaults, suicides & suicide attempts, accidents, or by police intervention. 31,537 people die from gun violence: ✓ 11,583 people are murdered. ✓ 18,783 people kill themselves. is surprised you still have a population






BAN ALL KNIVES!

KNIVES KILL end of story!


Tories blasted over police cuts as wave of violent crime hits the UK

19:32, 21 Jan 2016
Updated 19:32, 21 Jan 2016
By Jack Blanchard

The rise in gun and knife crime puts more pressure on Home Secretary Theresa May who has slashed budgets for cops by a quarter since 2010


The chairman of the Police Federation of England and Wales has slammed Tory budget cuts after shocking new crime figures were revealed.

Steve White’s comments add to pressure on Home Secretary Theresa May , after it was reported that knife attacks surged by almost 10 per cent last year.

Murders rose 14 per cent and gun crime rose for the first time in almost a decade.

Official stats showed there were 27,487 stabbings and other knife crimes across England and Wales in the year to September 2015 – the equivalent of 529 every week.

Steve White said: “These figures show an alarming rise in recorded crime - which is what we have been saying all along.

“There were 1.3 million violent incidents in England and Wales in the last year, and yet the police service is currently operating with 17,000 fewer officers than five years ago.”


The figures, from the Office for National Statistics, showed cases of attempted murder with a knife surged 24 per cent last year, while threats to kill increased 20 per cent. Firearms offences increased 4 per cent.

The annual figures also show the total number of cases of violent crime soared by a staggering 27 per cent, while sexual offences rose 36 per cent.



Mrs May has also forced cops to reduce their use of stop and search, which has brought her into direct conflict with Scotland Yard chief Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe.

He warned last year: “If we are getting to the stage where people think they can carry knives with impunity, that can’t be good for anyone.” [UK - Totalitarian Police state]

At the time the Home Secretary accused him of a “knee-jerk reaction”.

“The first duty of any Government is the safety and security of our citizens.



Not surprising they had to ban guns and soon knives in a country of barbarians.
Soon you will need a license to play baseball because a baseball bat is a weapon of mass destruction. Likewise 2x4, brooms, screwdriver, on the heels of full amputation. Only the state is or should be allowed to have limbs.







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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 6:56:56 PM   
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As an aside, No Mean City was based around a Glaswegian gang leader by the name of Johnny Starkey who was renowned for ( among many other things) carry matching cut-throat razors in the top pockets of his jacket. One of his favourite questions of an unsuspecting victim was "Can yer mother sew jimmy ?" and no matter what the answer, he would then proceed to carve up the said victim's face and tell him or her, "Well, get her to stitch that up ye bastard". A thoroughly unlikeable character I think.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 7:52:57 PM   
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I dont.. trying to sell y'all on that is pointless and a waste of time, plus no one can sell ya on something you dont want.. Exactly whats in it for Brits or Aussies or Canadians if you adopt their model or not? not a damn thing.. so why would they need to sell ya on it??? (not that they ever could anyway) If other Americans are trying to sell ya on it, then thats between y'all..


What's in it for us is seeing fewer Americans killing each other. Astonishing as it may seem, most of us don't like to hear of Americans killing each other. Not addressing you, TJ - but sometimes it flabbergasts me that gunsters here will scramble around for any explanation for why we'd be arguing against gun-ownership in the USA *other* than that, the most blindingly obvious, one.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 7:58:27 PM   
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I dont.. trying to sell y'all on that is pointless and a waste of time, plus no one can sell ya on something you dont want.. Exactly whats in it for Brits or Aussies or Canadians if you adopt their model or not? not a damn thing.. so why would they need to sell ya on it??? (not that they ever could anyway) If other Americans are trying to sell ya on it, then thats between y'all..


What's in it for us is seeing fewer Americans killing each other. Astonishing as it may seem, most of us don't like to hear of Americans killing each other. Not addressing you, TJ - but sometimes it flabbergasts me that gunsters here will scramble around for any explanation for why we'd be arguing against gun-ownership in the USA *other* than that, the most blindingly obvious, one.

So you agree that you are trying to sell us on gun control. And that the mouse was just blowing smoke.

Sorry I had forgotten she had me on hide, or I wouldn't have responded to her.

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RE: Three men injured in drive-by shooting - 1/25/2016 8:06:57 PM   
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I dont.. trying to sell y'all on that is pointless and a waste of time, plus no one can sell ya on something you dont want.. Exactly whats in it for Brits or Aussies or Canadians if you adopt their model or not? not a damn thing.. so why would they need to sell ya on it??? (not that they ever could anyway) If other Americans are trying to sell ya on it, then thats between y'all..


What's in it for us is seeing fewer Americans killing each other. Astonishing as it may seem, most of us don't like to hear of Americans killing each other. Not addressing you, TJ - but sometimes it flabbergasts me that gunsters here will scramble around for any explanation for why we'd be arguing against gun-ownership in the USA *other* than that, the most blindingly obvious, one.

So you agree that you are trying to sell us on gun control. And that the mouse was just blowing smoke.


I'll argue for gun control, yes. Not so much, these days, mind you - because as TJ says, it's so often a forlorn task. As I've come to recognise, gun-ownership in the USA has an ideology behind it like none other in the world - it's next to impregnable. However, 'selling' it implies that there's something to be gained - but for me the motive is altruistic, whether you or any other gun fan believes it or not.

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