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I enjoyed Cummings time...ALtho he was far too soft on him when it came to snyders comment "Im going to have to live with this for the rest of my life"

I watched various parts earlier this morning, and im still in a shitty mood about it.
I need to blast some music and get on with some more work.

Have a good day!!!!

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Why is the EPA so racist?
http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/was-epa-unwilling-to-go-out-on-a-limb-for-flint
In the depth of Flint, Mich.’s water crisis – months after federal and state officials learned that the city’s tap water showed alarming levels of lead and bacteria but months before they alerted the public – an U.S. Environmental Protection Agency official discouraged a colleague from using federal money to buy water filters for the city residents.
“I’m not so sure Flint is the community we want to go out on a limb for,” Region 5 Water Division Branch Chief Debbie Baltazar wrote to the regional administrator and others, in a September email disclosed at a congressional hearing Tuesday. Baltazar went on to express concerns about the city’s past use of sewer and water fees for other priorities.

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Why is the EPA so racist?
http://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/was-epa-unwilling-to-go-out-on-a-limb-for-flint
In the depth of Flint, Mich.’s water crisis – months after federal and state officials learned that the city’s tap water showed alarming levels of lead and bacteria but months before they alerted the public – an U.S. Environmental Protection Agency official discouraged a colleague from using federal money to buy water filters for the city residents.
“I’m not so sure Flint is the community we want to go out on a limb for,” Region 5 Water Division Branch Chief Debbie Baltazar wrote to the regional administrator and others, in a September email disclosed at a congressional hearing Tuesday. Baltazar went on to express concerns about the city’s past use of sewer and water fees for other priorities.

I can understand why someone might chafe at the idea of sending more money to a community that has already misused previously sent money. And, here is where problems explode. IF her allegations of misuse are correct (and I'm not saying they are or they aren't), how does that get taken care of? It sure doesn't seem like the best thing to do (for Flint residents) would be to punish them by withholding necessary support, resulting in elevated lead levels. But, if nothing is done to "punish" those that misuse allocated funding, what's the point in allocating funding for something anyway?

What would make this even worse, would be to find out that Baltazar's accusations were correct and that had the allocated monies been used as allocated, this disaster wouldn't have happened, as the projects the money was for would have addressed the situation.

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I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

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I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

You are such a bloody liar. its only been nine weeks and two days since you posted first about this.

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I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

You are such a bloody liar. its only been nine weeks and two days since you posted first about this.

Not a lie to misremember, but point taken.

But the really salient details, such as DWDS having featherbedded with 800 employees, needing bonds to pay for improvements, having unsanitary water for year after year, being under judges supervision..

Towns being unable to afford detroit water, democrats choosing to jump ship.. etc etc. -- all of that you have no answer for.

And the fundamental truth is that in much of michigan 5-10% of children - not just in flint - are still being lead poisoned. Democrats aren't out to get the people that poisoned people - they're out to get snider.

Showing, that once again - being partisan is more important to liberals rather than ending a democrat fiefdom and fixing the problem.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

You are such a bloody liar. its only been nine weeks and two days since you posted first about this.

Not a lie to misremember, but point taken.

But the really salient details, such as DWDS having featherbedded with 800 employees, needing bonds to pay for improvements, having unsanitary water for year after year, being under judges supervision..

Towns being unable to afford detroit water, democrats choosing to jump ship.. etc etc. -- all of that you have no answer for.

And the fundamental truth is that in much of michigan 5-10% of children - not just in flint - are still being lead poisoned. Democrats aren't out to get the people that poisoned people - they're out to get snider.

Showing, that once again - being partisan is more important to liberals rather than ending a democrat fiefdom and fixing the problem.

As I wrote in the OP and this from Latimer...a life long repub:

This is the Republicans’ chance to show their worth — the chance our leaders have said they always wanted. Why haven’t they been here over the decades, running serious candidates, supporting federal aid for the city, championing pilot projects that might show what a conservative approach to urban areas might do? Why aren't they in Flint today, shipping in water bottles and holding fund-raisers for kids now condemned to lowered expectations because their brains were poisoned by lead ?

It cannot be, as the left would tell us, because Flint has a large African-American population. Or that the city has always been a Democratic stronghold. That’s exactly a place Republicans should target.

I think it’s because they are used to staying away. The party is accustomed to talking about policies and ideas to help urban America and then implementing them in safe, Republican-friendly areas like Idaho or Arizona. It’s not easy to go to a place where nobody knows you or likes you. It’s not easy to make change.

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

You are such a bloody liar. its only been nine weeks and two days since you posted first about this.

Not a lie to misremember, but point taken.

But the really salient details, such as DWDS having featherbedded with 800 employees, needing bonds to pay for improvements, having unsanitary water for year after year, being under judges supervision..

Towns being unable to afford detroit water, democrats choosing to jump ship.. etc etc. -- all of that you have no answer for.

And the fundamental truth is that in much of michigan 5-10% of children - not just in flint - are still being lead poisoned. Democrats aren't out to get the people that poisoned people - they're out to get snider.

Showing, that once again - being partisan is more important to liberals rather than ending a democrat fiefdom and fixing the problem.

As I wrote in the OP and this from Latimer...a life long repub:

This is the Republicans’ chance to show their worth — the chance our leaders have said they always wanted. Why haven’t they been here over the decades, running serious candidates, supporting federal aid for the city, championing pilot projects that might show what a conservative approach to urban areas might do? Why aren't they in Flint today, shipping in water bottles and holding fund-raisers for kids now condemned to lowered expectations because their brains were poisoned by lead ?

It cannot be, as the left would tell us, because Flint has a large African-American population. Or that the city has always been a Democratic stronghold. That’s exactly a place Republicans should target.

I think it’s because they are used to staying away. The party is accustomed to talking about policies and ideas to help urban America and then implementing them in safe, Republican-friendly areas like Idaho or Arizona. It’s not easy to go to a place where nobody knows you or likes you. It’s not easy to make change.

Still have to get elected. Republicans get what.. 6% of the AA vote?

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

I've only been jumping up and down about this very point for a year now.

You are such a bloody liar. its only been nine weeks and two days since you posted first about this.

Not a lie to misremember, but point taken.

But the really salient details, such as DWDS having featherbedded with 800 employees, needing bonds to pay for improvements, having unsanitary water for year after year, being under judges supervision..

Towns being unable to afford detroit water, democrats choosing to jump ship.. etc etc. -- all of that you have no answer for.

And the fundamental truth is that in much of michigan 5-10% of children - not just in flint - are still being lead poisoned. Democrats aren't out to get the people that poisoned people - they're out to get snider.

Showing, that once again - being partisan is more important to liberals rather than ending a democrat fiefdom and fixing the problem.

As I wrote in the OP and this from Latimer...a life long repub:

This is the Republicans’ chance to show their worth — the chance our leaders have said they always wanted. Why haven’t they been here over the decades, running serious candidates, supporting federal aid for the city, championing pilot projects that might show what a conservative approach to urban areas might do? Why aren't they in Flint today, shipping in water bottles and holding fund-raisers for kids now condemned to lowered expectations because their brains were poisoned by lead ?

It cannot be, as the left would tell us, because Flint has a large African-American population. Or that the city has always been a Democratic stronghold. That’s exactly a place Republicans should target.

I think it’s because they are used to staying away. The party is accustomed to talking about policies and ideas to help urban America and then implementing them in safe, Republican-friendly areas like Idaho or Arizona. It’s not easy to go to a place where nobody knows you or likes you. It’s not easy to make change.

Still have to get elected. Republicans get what.. 6% of the AA vote?

Well, NY, LA, Miami have had repub mayors and many of their policies worked. Now the last repub mayor of Chicago was Big Bill and he jumped right in bed with Capone. Maybe that's why he was the last repub mayor. They have to try and keep trying.

The truth is, economic policies from Washington and from repubs mostly, have seen millions of jobs leave the major cities. By the 1970's, the fortune 500 had entirely left almost all cities of 500,000 or more. Look at the jobs having left Detroit and Balt. and then include the obvious redlining and then look what the dems had to work with.

Maybe, just maybe if the repubs had stuck it out in Detroit for example (I am from Detroit) then all of the surrounding areas could have got their water for example from Detroit and there. Repubs were mayor of Det. for 38 of 40 or so years and were twice corrupt.

Then Coleman young as mayor (over 20 years) over the complete destruction of the auto industry that the repubs had enjoyed. Was probably responsible for such city job patronage that even the very popular Dave Bing couldn't overcome...because of it. ( Marion Berry...same thing in DC)