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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 1:16:59 PM   
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Hillary.


Yup, at least that will keep her from becoming President.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 1:33:50 PM   
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<snip>

Obama shouldn't have snubbed [Scalia's] funeral.


"There are those who contend that it does not benefit African-Americans
to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well,
as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a less
-- a slower-track school where they do well."

Justice Scalia, Oral Argument for
Fisher v. Texas, 2015

If I were a person of color, I wouldn't feel the slightest need/desire to attend the funeral of someone who'd said that from the bench of the highest court in the land.



Did you read the part that says "there are those who contend" ?

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 1:46:33 PM   
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<snip>

Obama shouldn't have snubbed [Scalia's] funeral.


"There are those who contend that it does not benefit African-Americans
to get them into the University of Texas where they do not do well,
as opposed to having them go to a less-advanced school, a less
-- a slower-track school where they do well."

Justice Scalia, Oral Argument for
Fisher v. Texas, 2015

If I were a person of color, I wouldn't feel the slightest need/desire to attend the funeral of someone who'd said that from the bench of the highest court in the land.

Regardless, it was tackey, even for Obama, to snub his funeral.
If the situation were reversed Scalia would have gone.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 1:52:30 PM   
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How is that tacky.

How many times did Scalia not attend the State of the Union Adresses by Obama? Is that tacky? Its more than once.

He isn't going to only one funeral for Scabies, but he showed at the wake.

More than Scabies ever did.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 2:07:03 PM   
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In other news, the unforced political errors continue. The Republicans shouldn't have said anything about Obama's nominees and Obama shouldn't have snubbed his funeral.



the funeral was a topic of conversation last night between megyn Kelly and dana perino, who said [paraphrase] "imagine the uproar if one of the liberal justices died and president bush didn't go to the funeral."

she also pointed out that when Obama was a senator, he filibustered the alito appointment. now Obama's on record saying he regrets having done that. id like to believe him, but its tough to...especially given the funeral situation, which I think is a major low class move.

lastly, Hillary was complaining about the republicans' position while on the campaign trail---blaming their nomination position on, you guessed it, hatred and racism.



Well, a lot of justices have died, and a lot of presidents have not attended their funerals in our nations history.

I wouldnt go to that ethics ignoring nutsucker's funeral either, in fact, I am not going.



Nobody really cares if you are going Mnotter.

In truth, if anyone does care it would only be the tiniest smidgeon of relief that you are not.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 2:07:46 PM   
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Regardless, it was tackey, even for Obama, to snub his funeral.

I believe the President will visit the lying in state at the Supreme Court and designated the Vice President (who regularly fills in at all manner of funerals and other functions and who, unlike Obama, is Catholic) to attend the requiem Mass. As the dearly departed might have observed with his originalist wit, there's no constitutional right to have the President at your funeral.

If the President had planned to attend, I how many of his critics would be slamming him for hypocrisy.


quote:

If the situation were reversed Scalia would have gone.

We'll never know. But . . .

Justice Antonin Scalia’s absence is no surprise. It was the 19th State of the Union in a row that he’s skipped since he considers the speech a “childish spectacle.”

http://time.com/3672123/state-of-the-union-supreme-court/

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 2:09:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

In other news, the unforced political errors continue. The Republicans shouldn't have said anything about Obama's nominees and Obama shouldn't have snubbed his funeral.



the funeral was a topic of conversation last night between megyn Kelly and dana perino, who said [paraphrase] "imagine the uproar if one of the liberal justices died and president bush didn't go to the funeral."

she also pointed out that when Obama was a senator, he filibustered the alito appointment. now Obama's on record saying he regrets having done that. id like to believe him, but its tough to...especially given the funeral situation, which I think is a major low class move.

lastly, Hillary was complaining about the republicans' position while on the campaign trail---blaming their nomination position on, you guessed it, hatred and racism.



Well, a lot of justices have died, and a lot of presidents have not attended their funerals in our nations history.

I wouldnt go to that ethics ignoring nutsucker's funeral either, in fact, I am not going.



Nobody really cares if you are going Mnotter.

In truth, if anyone does care it would only be the tiniest smidgeon of relief that you are not.


Well, nobody cares if you live or die, and most anyone could be asked and wouldnt know you or give the glimmer of a good goddamn fuck about it.



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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 2:09:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

Regardless, it was tackey, even for Obama, to snub his funeral.

I believe the President will visit the lying in state at the Supreme Court and designated the Vice President (who regularly fills in at all manner of funerals and other functions and who, unlike Obama, is Catholic) to attend the requiem Mass. As the dearly departed might have observed with his originalist wit, there's no constitutional right to have the President at your funeral.

If the President had planned to attend, I how many of his critics would be slamming him for hypocrisy.


quote:

If the situation were reversed Scalia would have gone.

We'll never know. But . . .

Justice Antonin Scalia’s absence is no surprise. It was the 19th State of the Union in a row that he’s skipped since he considers the speech a “childish spectacle.”

http://time.com/3672123/state-of-the-union-supreme-court/


Really - you consider the death of supreme court justice on the same level as a political speech, one that scalia made a habit of skipping regardless of party?
Last I checked, we don't lower the flags to half mast for state of the union speaches - suggesting most of the country doesn't apparently think of it the same way you do.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/18/2016 2:16:13 PM   
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yup, both occur with some regularity

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 2:26:55 AM   
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comrade nutsucking cockgargling slobberblogger aside for a moment; some food for thought:

(the short version is, one more liberal judge would be a significant threat to the 2nd amendment)

quote:

Since the passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, the GOP presidential field has, in a rare show of unity, supported Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s statement that Scalia’s replacement should be determined by the results of the November election. Democratic hypocrites like Sen. Chuck Schumer accuse the GOP of obstructionism, the memory of their blocking of George W. Bush nominees having faded.

They, while insisting that President Obama has the Constitutional right to nominate a replacement, which he does, forget the Senate’s Constitutional role to advise and consent -- or not consent. They can say no -- or even “not yet”. Yes, President Obama won election twice, but the voters also gave the Republicans their Senate majority, and if the 2014 election was about anything, it was about stopping the Obama agenda. The GOP Senate majority has been criticized for not keeping their pledge, but this is a chance to...stop...Obama['s] gun control...

Sen. Ted Cruz has warned that we are only one justice away from having the Second Amendment guaranteeing our right to keep and bear arms written out of the Constitution...

Cruz, who opposed Murthy (the anti-gun activist/surgeon general), fears Obama’s SCOTUS pick will be a judicial Murthy clone. Cruz, as attorney general of Texas, has argued many cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and has appeared before Scalia many times. In a statement on Scalia’s passing, Cruz stated:

“As liberals and conservatives alike would agree, through his powerful and persuasive opinions, Justice Scalia fundamentally changed how courts interpret the Constitution and statutes, returning the focus to the original meaning of the text after decades of judicial activism. And he authored some of the most important decisions ever, including District of Columbia v. Heller, which recognized our fundamental right under the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. He was an unrelenting defender of religious liberty, free speech, federalism, the constitutional separation of powers, and private property rights. All liberty-loving Americans should be in mourning."

What few people know -- and the media won’t remind them -- is that Ted Cruz was a prime mover in getting Heller, in which Scalia wrote the majority opinion, before the Court and decided in favor of gun rights, ruling that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right and that the word “militia”, as the Founders intended, meant the “whole people” of the United States. If Heller had gone the other way, our gun rights would have been thrown on the ash heap of history. In January Cruz told CNN:

"I represented 31 states in the Heller case, which upheld the individual right to keep and bear arms. You know what Barack Obama's position is? That there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever under the Constitution… Hillary Clinton, for example, has said she will put Supreme Court justices on the court who will overturn Heller. And if Heller is overturned… there were four justices who said that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever, that it is only a collective right in the militia, which is fancy lawyer talk for a nonexistent right… [If] Hillary Clinton gets one more Supreme Court justice, what it would mean is, the Supreme Court would say you and I and every individual American have no constitutional right under the Second Amendment at all, and either the federal government or a state government could make it a crime to possess a firearm."


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/how_scalia_and_ted_cruz_saved_the_2nd_amendment.html


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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 3:40:31 AM   
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The sooner Obama picks a nominee the better:)
BTW< Cruz wont be going to Scalias funeral either, and he clerked for the man....
LMAO so much scaremongering and paranoia bounty.


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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 9:19:58 AM   
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And its pretty disrespectful for him too.

That said has cruz been invited?

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 10:02:42 AM   
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A recollection of history...

When Democrats ran the Senate from June 2001 to January 2003, they denied even a hearing before the Judiciary Committee to 32 of Mr. Bush’s nominees. When Republicans regained a 51-49 majority in the next Congress, Democrats broke the then-longstanding Senate norm of granting nominees an up-or-down vote. Before 2003, only one judicial nominee had been blocked with a filibuster, and that was the bipartisan 1968 rebellion against promoting the ethically challenged Justice Abe Fortas to Chief Justice.

Democrats applied the higher 60-vote standard to a rainbow coalition of Bush nominees, judging them not by traditional measures like experience or temperament or even “diversity.” They simply didn’t like their politics.

The targets included Priscilla Owen (a woman), Janice Rogers Brown (a black woman) and Miguel Estrada (a Hispanic). The 28-month Estrada filibuster was especially egregious because Democrats feared the smart young attorney’s ethnic background might make him formidable Supreme Court material if he served on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

• When Mr. Bush nominated Samuel Alito to the High Court in 2005, Democrats attempted to give him the same treatment. Some 25 Senators voted to support a filibuster, including Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, John Kerry, Pat Leahy and Mr. Schumer.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest this week described Mr. Obama’s filibuster as merely a “symbolic vote” to protest Mr. Bush. He added that Mr. Obama “regrets the vote” because Democrats “shouldn’t have looked for a way to just throw sand in the gears of the process. And, frankly, looking back on it, the President believes that he should have just followed his own advice and made a strong public case on the merits.” No doubt he does—now.

• After blockading Mr. Bush’s judicial slate, Mr. Reid as Senate Majority Leader changed the rules for Mr. Obama’s nominees on a partisan vote. Senate rules require a two-thirds vote to change its rules in mid-session, but in 2013 Mr. Reid forced through a change solely with a narrow Democratic majority.

This allowed him to trigger the “nuclear option” lowering the Senate threshold for appellate but not Supreme Court nominees to 51 from 60. The goal was to pack the D.C. Circuit with left-leaning judges who would bless Mr. Obama’s abuses of power, especially on health care and climate regulation. Mr. Obama was cheering him on all the way.

• Mr. Reid now argues that the Senate’s “constitutional duty” is to give nominees an up-or-down vote, but in a May 2005 speech on Mr. Bush’s judges, he offered a different interpretation: “The duties of the Senate are set forth in the U.S. Constitution. Nowhere in that document does it say the Senate has a duty to give Presidential appointees a vote. It says appointments shall be made with the advice and consent of the Senate. That is very different than saying every nominee receives a vote.”

It’s impossible to know what Mr. Reid really believes, because whatever he claims to believe at any moment is whatever will maximize his own political power. Mr. Obama does have the power under the Constitution to nominate a replacement for Justice Antonin Scalia, but Senate Republicans also have the right to ignore it or vote to confirm or deny.

Republicans have no obligation to submit to Democratic judicial ultimatums, which change with the political seasons. (From the wsj)

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 1:12:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

Regardless, it was tackey, even for Obama, to snub his funeral.

I believe the President will visit the lying in state at the Supreme Court and designated the Vice President (who regularly fills in at all manner of funerals and other functions and who, unlike Obama, is Catholic) to attend the requiem Mass. As the dearly departed might have observed with his originalist wit, there's no constitutional right to have the President at your funeral.

If the President had planned to attend, I how many of his critics would be slamming him for hypocrisy.


quote:

If the situation were reversed Scalia would have gone.

We'll never know. But . . .

Justice Antonin Scalia’s absence is no surprise. It was the 19th State of the Union in a row that he’s skipped since he considers the speech a “childish spectacle.”

http://time.com/3672123/state-of-the-union-supreme-court/

Nobody would have critisized Obama for going.
Thus you have demonstrated that he was skipping the State of the Union, and that it had nothing to do with Obama.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 1:15:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

comrade nutsucking cockgargling slobberblogger aside for a moment; some food for thought:

(the short version is, one more liberal judge would be a significant threat to the 2nd amendment)

quote:

Since the passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, the GOP presidential field has, in a rare show of unity, supported Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s statement that Scalia’s replacement should be determined by the results of the November election. Democratic hypocrites like Sen. Chuck Schumer accuse the GOP of obstructionism, the memory of their blocking of George W. Bush nominees having faded.

They, while insisting that President Obama has the Constitutional right to nominate a replacement, which he does, forget the Senate’s Constitutional role to advise and consent -- or not consent. They can say no -- or even “not yet”. Yes, President Obama won election twice, but the voters also gave the Republicans their Senate majority, and if the 2014 election was about anything, it was about stopping the Obama agenda. The GOP Senate majority has been criticized for not keeping their pledge, but this is a chance to...stop...Obama['s] gun control...

Sen. Ted Cruz has warned that we are only one justice away from having the Second Amendment guaranteeing our right to keep and bear arms written out of the Constitution...

Cruz, who opposed Murthy (the anti-gun activist/surgeon general), fears Obama’s SCOTUS pick will be a judicial Murthy clone. Cruz, as attorney general of Texas, has argued many cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and has appeared before Scalia many times. In a statement on Scalia’s passing, Cruz stated:

“As liberals and conservatives alike would agree, through his powerful and persuasive opinions, Justice Scalia fundamentally changed how courts interpret the Constitution and statutes, returning the focus to the original meaning of the text after decades of judicial activism. And he authored some of the most important decisions ever, including District of Columbia v. Heller, which recognized our fundamental right under the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. He was an unrelenting defender of religious liberty, free speech, federalism, the constitutional separation of powers, and private property rights. All liberty-loving Americans should be in mourning."

What few people know -- and the media won’t remind them -- is that Ted Cruz was a prime mover in getting Heller, in which Scalia wrote the majority opinion, before the Court and decided in favor of gun rights, ruling that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right and that the word “militia”, as the Founders intended, meant the “whole people” of the United States. If Heller had gone the other way, our gun rights would have been thrown on the ash heap of history. In January Cruz told CNN:

"I represented 31 states in the Heller case, which upheld the individual right to keep and bear arms. You know what Barack Obama's position is? That there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever under the Constitution… Hillary Clinton, for example, has said she will put Supreme Court justices on the court who will overturn Heller. And if Heller is overturned… there were four justices who said that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever, that it is only a collective right in the militia, which is fancy lawyer talk for a nonexistent right… [If] Hillary Clinton gets one more Supreme Court justice, what it would mean is, the Supreme Court would say you and I and every individual American have no constitutional right under the Second Amendment at all, and either the federal government or a state government could make it a crime to possess a firearm."


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/how_scalia_and_ted_cruz_saved_the_2nd_amendment.html


The first would also be in danger.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 1:25:05 PM   
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Nobody would have critisized Obama for going.

These days, I'm not at all sure I buy that.


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Thus you have demonstrated that he was skipping the State of the Union, and that it had nothing to do with Obama.

I never said it had anything to do with Obama. I simply cited the SOTU as an example of Scalia's skipping state events that others seem to believe they should attend.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/20/2016 6:31:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

Nobody would have critisized Obama for going.

These days, I'm not at all sure I buy that.


quote:

Thus you have demonstrated that he was skipping the State of the Union, and that it had nothing to do with Obama.

I never said it had anything to do with Obama. I simply cited the SOTU as an example of Scalia's skipping state events that others seem to believe they should attend.

No, but when it was first mentioned it was implied that Scalia not attending was a sign disrespect for Obama.
These days? Anyone remember when the Dem Senator Paul Wellstone from MN died in a plane crash and Republicans were told to stay away from his services.
Nobody on the conservative side did that.

The funeral was turned into a Dem campaign rally by his son.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/21/2016 1:37:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

comrade nutsucking cockgargling slobberblogger aside for a moment; some food for thought:

(the short version is, one more liberal judge would be a significant threat to the 2nd amendment)

quote:

Since the passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, the GOP presidential field has, in a rare show of unity, supported Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s statement that Scalia’s replacement should be determined by the results of the November election. Democratic hypocrites like Sen. Chuck Schumer accuse the GOP of obstructionism, the memory of their blocking of George W. Bush nominees having faded.

They, while insisting that President Obama has the Constitutional right to nominate a replacement, which he does, forget the Senate’s Constitutional role to advise and consent -- or not consent. They can say no -- or even “not yet”. Yes, President Obama won election twice, but the voters also gave the Republicans their Senate majority, and if the 2014 election was about anything, it was about stopping the Obama agenda. The GOP Senate majority has been criticized for not keeping their pledge, but this is a chance to...stop...Obama['s] gun control...

Sen. Ted Cruz has warned that we are only one justice away from having the Second Amendment guaranteeing our right to keep and bear arms written out of the Constitution...

Cruz, who opposed Murthy (the anti-gun activist/surgeon general), fears Obama’s SCOTUS pick will be a judicial Murthy clone. Cruz, as attorney general of Texas, has argued many cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and has appeared before Scalia many times. In a statement on Scalia’s passing, Cruz stated:

“As liberals and conservatives alike would agree, through his powerful and persuasive opinions, Justice Scalia fundamentally changed how courts interpret the Constitution and statutes, returning the focus to the original meaning of the text after decades of judicial activism. And he authored some of the most important decisions ever, including District of Columbia v. Heller, which recognized our fundamental right under the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. He was an unrelenting defender of religious liberty, free speech, federalism, the constitutional separation of powers, and private property rights. All liberty-loving Americans should be in mourning."

What few people know -- and the media won’t remind them -- is that Ted Cruz was a prime mover in getting Heller, in which Scalia wrote the majority opinion, before the Court and decided in favor of gun rights, ruling that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right and that the word “militia”, as the Founders intended, meant the “whole people” of the United States. If Heller had gone the other way, our gun rights would have been thrown on the ash heap of history. In January Cruz told CNN:

"I represented 31 states in the Heller case, which upheld the individual right to keep and bear arms. You know what Barack Obama's position is? That there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever under the Constitution… Hillary Clinton, for example, has said she will put Supreme Court justices on the court who will overturn Heller. And if Heller is overturned… there were four justices who said that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever, that it is only a collective right in the militia, which is fancy lawyer talk for a nonexistent right… [If] Hillary Clinton gets one more Supreme Court justice, what it would mean is, the Supreme Court would say you and I and every individual American have no constitutional right under the Second Amendment at all, and either the federal government or a state government could make it a crime to possess a firearm."


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/how_scalia_and_ted_cruz_saved_the_2nd_amendment.html


The first would also be in danger.

It already is.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/21/2016 1:57:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

comrade nutsucking cockgargling slobberblogger aside for a moment; some food for thought:

(the short version is, one more liberal judge would be a significant threat to the 2nd amendment)

quote:

Since the passing of Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, the GOP presidential field has, in a rare show of unity, supported Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s statement that Scalia’s replacement should be determined by the results of the November election. Democratic hypocrites like Sen. Chuck Schumer accuse the GOP of obstructionism, the memory of their blocking of George W. Bush nominees having faded.

They, while insisting that President Obama has the Constitutional right to nominate a replacement, which he does, forget the Senate’s Constitutional role to advise and consent -- or not consent. They can say no -- or even “not yet”. Yes, President Obama won election twice, but the voters also gave the Republicans their Senate majority, and if the 2014 election was about anything, it was about stopping the Obama agenda. The GOP Senate majority has been criticized for not keeping their pledge, but this is a chance to...stop...Obama['s] gun control...

Sen. Ted Cruz has warned that we are only one justice away from having the Second Amendment guaranteeing our right to keep and bear arms written out of the Constitution...

Cruz, who opposed Murthy (the anti-gun activist/surgeon general), fears Obama’s SCOTUS pick will be a judicial Murthy clone. Cruz, as attorney general of Texas, has argued many cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, and has appeared before Scalia many times. In a statement on Scalia’s passing, Cruz stated:

“As liberals and conservatives alike would agree, through his powerful and persuasive opinions, Justice Scalia fundamentally changed how courts interpret the Constitution and statutes, returning the focus to the original meaning of the text after decades of judicial activism. And he authored some of the most important decisions ever, including District of Columbia v. Heller, which recognized our fundamental right under the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms. He was an unrelenting defender of religious liberty, free speech, federalism, the constitutional separation of powers, and private property rights. All liberty-loving Americans should be in mourning."

What few people know -- and the media won’t remind them -- is that Ted Cruz was a prime mover in getting Heller, in which Scalia wrote the majority opinion, before the Court and decided in favor of gun rights, ruling that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right and that the word “militia”, as the Founders intended, meant the “whole people” of the United States. If Heller had gone the other way, our gun rights would have been thrown on the ash heap of history. In January Cruz told CNN:

"I represented 31 states in the Heller case, which upheld the individual right to keep and bear arms. You know what Barack Obama's position is? That there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever under the Constitution… Hillary Clinton, for example, has said she will put Supreme Court justices on the court who will overturn Heller. And if Heller is overturned… there were four justices who said that there is no individual right to keep and bear arms whatsoever, that it is only a collective right in the militia, which is fancy lawyer talk for a nonexistent right… [If] Hillary Clinton gets one more Supreme Court justice, what it would mean is, the Supreme Court would say you and I and every individual American have no constitutional right under the Second Amendment at all, and either the federal government or a state government could make it a crime to possess a firearm."


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/02/how_scalia_and_ted_cruz_saved_the_2nd_amendment.html


The first would also be in danger.

It already is.

It would be in greater danger, and let's not forget seperation of powers.

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: SHOULD OBAMA NOMINATE TO FILL THE SUPREME COURT VAC... - 2/21/2016 7:29:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The sooner Obama picks a nominee the better:)
BTW< Cruz wont be going to Scalias funeral either, and he clerked for the man....
LMAO so much scaremongering and paranoia bounty.

Actually...Ted Cruz did step off the campaign trail to attend.

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