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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/3/2016 5:05:36 AM   
thompsonx


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Yea, much Ado about nothing!

So Apple would rather it get hacked by outsiders than hack it themselves. Does this make it safer?


Pretty sure that is illegal.

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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/3/2016 7:59:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

Yea, much Ado about nothing!

So Apple would rather it get hacked by outsiders than hack it themselves. Does this make it safer?


I'd imagine Apple would rather see their flagship product not hacked by anyone.

As for the 'much ado about nothing', that depends on if one value their First and Fourth Amendment rights.

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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/3/2016 9:11:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		She's right. Hacked by outsiders would force them to figure out how to keep that from happening again.

There is a challenge out there. Was in The American Free Press and a few other publications. Like half a million bucks if you can decrypt this file and gave a URL.

Of course anything like that should be downloaded on a Linux box.

Let's take an analogy break back to the 1960s or so. There were master keys to cars. Yup, there were two cuts in each tumbler. If you took the lock apart and know what you're doing you can figure out how to cut the master key from the ignition of any car. (for like cars of course, not ALL cars)

Things have changed though and a bit later Ford came out with a design that was pretty much it. You would have to drive the car with a fucking pair of vise grips and have all kinds of wires all over the place, and have to shift gears with your teeth, on the floor. If that even works. Some cars it won't. Car theft is way down and when it happens I bet it happens by tow truck.

But anyway, then we got a city in PA wanted to mandate that the police have keys to everyone's apartments. They said too many times they have to break down the door and that was costing money. Let me get this straight, my right to privacy is sold, not for millions or thousands, but for a two hundred buck fucking door ? These are the kind of people occupying the government folks. You're headed for a really shit life at this rate.

What are your rights worth ?

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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/3/2016 9:43:31 PM   
ifmaz


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

She's right. Hacked by outsiders would force them to figure out how to keep that from happening again.

There is a challenge out there. Was in The American Free Press and a few other publications. Like half a million bucks if you can decrypt this file and gave a URL.

Of course anything like that should be downloaded on a Linux box.
...


Hacked at all would force Apple to investigate how the security was compromised and what it can do to prevent it from occurring again, especially if the compromise was widespread. This is why Apple tries to shut down jailbreaking as soon as it can.

As far as decryption, this site offers some basic timetables on decrypting content based on various key sizes. What's fairly amazing is ~20 years ago a 56-bit key was considered Pretty Secure yet now it can be compromised fairly quickly, hence the push in the late 1990s for a replacement (which became AES). The finalists for AES (Rijndael, Blowfish, Twofish, etc) are all publicly available as that was a prerequisite of the competition, which is pretty amazing given the FBI/NSA currently "fighting" encryption.

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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/3/2016 10:34:00 PM   
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RE: “APPLE TO JUDGE: DROP DEAD!” - 4/4/2016 5:11:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I heard that apple is one of the few companies that doesn't employ "white hat hackers" by way of making their products more secure.

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