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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:11:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		As I said, it's a differences in judgement of character of this person.
We both see the same thing and draw two complete different conclusion on this person.

I think Trump is a damn good guy with heart in the right place. You think his evil.

But we all form our conclusions differently.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:14:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course Greta but I think I may go and see America in the next few months before anything bad happens and implodes within itself if Trump SHOULD get into power.
I am beginning to agree with the little boy who said that he hoped Trump DID get in though.
When asked why, he replied "Because I've never seen a president assassinated"

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:15:28 PM   
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Are you are aware that the president does not make law?


Really then how did Obama make it legal for people to pay bribes to terrorists now to rescue their families now?

Cite please

And how he did pass Obama care?

Congress passed the aca not obama.


Cite please
I am not citing anything because I've been watching every single Republican debate, which is 1.5 hours to 2 hours each debate and they have repeatedly explained their plans on immigration and illegals. So if you want to find out, go youtube and patiently watch the debates.

When you make up shit and wont cite your sources this is called lying.




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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:19:05 PM   
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When you make up shit and wont cite your sources this is called lying.

Yea, there is no use citing sources to a man who thinks Singapore is a African third world shithole. Its so laughable that, I don't even know what kind of sources you choose to follow.
I mean, if your sources tell you Singapore is like African poverty poor. Then, no source will save you or enlighten you.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:20:46 PM   
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When asked why, he replied "Because I've never seen a president assassinated"

When Obama became President, there was alot of talk about White Supremacists assassinating him too.

But anyway, I don't why you detest Trump so much that you desire to see him killed. I guess we are really seeing two different people in the same person.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:21:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		And when his murder-squads and torture teams find they knocked on the wrong door or got the wrong family, do the people just disappear as they used to in Brasil ? The murder-squads there were illegal, but they still happened. Same in Argentina. Same in Nazi Germany. IT IS ILLEGAL and Trump cannot be seen to condone anything illegal or he is breaking the law himself as an accessory.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:24:12 PM   
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IT IS ILLEGAL and Trump cannot be seen to condone anything illegal or he is breaking the law himself as an accessory.

His breaking law for simply verbally giving his personal opinion that he approves of torture for families of terrorists? I think that gotta go against freedom of speech to have personal point of views and opinions.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:28:48 PM   
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His breaking law for simply verbally giving his personal opinion that he approves of torture for families of terrorists? I think that gotta go against freedom of speech to have personal point of views and opinions.

You do not know much about feedom of speech do you.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:31:26 PM   
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You do not know much about feedom of speech do you.

I do know that Freedom of Speech means that even if someone says something you don't like to hear, you don't convict that person because of it.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:32:56 PM   
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IT IS ILLEGAL and Trump cannot be seen to condone anything illegal or he is breaking the law himself as an accessory.

His breaking law for simply verbally giving his personal opinion that he approves of torture for families of terrorists? I think that gotta go against freedom of speech to have personal point of views and opinions.


He is attempting to hold the highest office in the land, and he says it's okay to torture the families of terrorists... He can say it as much as he wants, but if people vote him in on the promise that he does these things then it will be illegal when he orders them to happen. He can't just say this shit and expect people to assume "he's just talking". Talking can and likely will turn to action, it is the reason why politicians typically make campaign promises. Sure not all campaign promises are kept, but the problem is that there are so many vile promises coming from Trump that no one knows what he's going to follow through with or not. The problem is not the fact that he's allowed to say these things, it's the fact that we don't know if he'll follow through with the things he says, some of which are illegal either by domestic law or international law, like the Geneva Convention on Torture.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:35:52 PM   
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He is attempting to hold the highest office in the land, and he says it's okay to torture the families of terrorists... He can say it as much as he wants, but if people vote him in on the promise that he does these things then it will be illegal when he orders them to happen.

The problem I see here is, he says his for torturing families of terrorist for information. But he also says that he will do it through legal means.
He never said anything about breaking any law.
Currently, there is no legal means to do this, so if he can't find a legal way to do it, then he can't do it.

It's as simple as that.

Presidents can have beliefs in many things they want to implement, but usually, they don't get to do everything they want to do. I am sure Obama experience that in his frustration with whatever his trying to do with guns. I mean, Bush wanted to ban abortion. But it never happened.

Trump is also the only candidate who says that he will never use executive order. He will implement things by bringing people together to agree through negotiation.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:53:37 PM   
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Of course Greta but I think I may go and see America in the next few months before anything bad happens and implodes within itself if Trump SHOULD get into power.
I am beginning to agree with the little boy who said that he hoped Trump DID get in though.
When asked why, he replied "Because I've never seen a president assassinated"

That would be my little human, lol. He follows a lot of gamers on YouTube, and they all apparently don't like Trump, so they are constantly cracking jokes like that. And my son loves to pass them on to me.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 7:59:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		How can you do something illegal through legal means ??? That makes no sense whatsoever Greta..........if it does, can you tell me how I can legally rob a bank or maybe shoot a bank manager ?

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 1:43:27 AM   
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IT IS ILLEGAL and Trump cannot be seen to condone anything illegal or he is breaking the law himself as an accessory.

His breaking law for simply verbally giving his personal opinion that he approves of torture for families of terrorists? I think that gotta go against freedom of speech to have personal point of views and opinions.

Did you notice the bit I have bolded above? The bit where it says that Trump approves of torturing the families of terrorists? Not just the terrorists themselves but their families as well ..... Who may have nothing to do with their terrorist family member's activities or share none of their beliefs .....

Don't you see the problem with this? Torturing people is bad enough on its own. But torturing people solely because they may have blood ties with a terrorist is a giant step deeper into the mire. It is the torture of innocent people purely on the grounds of biological association with an alleged terrorist.

It is unfathomable that any one can find grounds to defend such degrading and contemptible suggestions. To appoint any one who advocates this - a gross violation of many of the long established principles of law that governs all our behaviours and guarantees our freedoms - to high office such as POTUS where they would be in a position to implement these policies and thereby subvert the law of the land is dangerously self destructive and wholly irresponsible.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 1:12:55 PM   
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I think Trump is a damn good guy with heart in the right place.


But he isn't a damn good guy, Greta. He's a turd. This, I believe, is the fundamental problem with your thinking on this topic.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 1:16:04 PM   
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Did you notice the bit I have bolded above? The bit where it says that Trump approves of torturing the families of terrorists?


Yep. I'm beginning to wonder how much uglier Trump, and his supporters, can get.

I suppose one shouldn't tempt fate ....

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 3:34:48 PM   
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When you make up shit and wont cite your sources this is called lying.

Yea, there is no use citing sources to a man who thinks Singapore is a African third world shithole.


Only the graduates of the university of dumbass don't know that third world means not aligned with the u.s or the soviet union.
How did you manage to maintain this level of ignorance?

Its so laughable that, I don't even know what kind of sources you choose to follow.
I mean, if your sources tell you Singapore is like African poverty poor. Then, no source will save you or enlighten you.

Perhaps if you were to get a grown up to read the big words to you and explain it to you.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 3:37:41 PM   
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Of course Greta but I think I may go and see America in the next few months before anything bad happens and implodes within itself if Trump SHOULD get into power.
I am beginning to agree with the little boy who said that he hoped Trump DID get in though.
When asked why, he replied "Because I've never seen a president assassinated"


I am not sure what is worse, you thinking it might be fun to watch someone get killed or that you seem to think it's cute that a child feels the same way. As bad as donny boy is, you just managed to make him look a little better by comparison. Congrats on that.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/7/2016 3:39:28 PM   
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You do not know much about feedom of speech do you.

I do know that Freedom of Speech means that even if someone says something you don't like to hear, you don't convict that person because of it.


In the usa one may not shout fire in a crowded theater if there is no fire. In the usa one may not incite criminal behaviour with speach.
As I pointed out earlier that third world shithole called singapore does not allow free speech.

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