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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/1/2016 5:57:48 PM

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the two socialists?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Man that's some funny shit.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/2/2016 5:44:29 AM

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For me the interesting aspect of the David Duke/KKK endorsement issue is not whether Duke and the KKK endorse Trump (though it seems likely that Duke did endorse Trump) but Trump's reaction to the endorsement.

Trump's initial reaction was to deny knowing Duke or who he was (this turned out to be a lie). When prompted by the interviewer that Duke was a leader of the KKK, Trump merely continued to deny knowing him or having met him. Trump even stated that he wasn't sure what a "white supremacist" is (improbable at best, and either a lie or appalling ignorance at worst) Significantly at no point did he refuse the endorsement, or to state that he didn't accept endorsements from racists and white supremacists.

One would think that any self respecting person wouldn't have a bar of the KKK under any circumstances. For an aspiring POTUS candidate to fail to repudiate the KKK's endorsement displays at the very least shocking lack of judgement. Perhaps more accurately, being aware of the levels of racism in certain sections of the right wing constituency whose votes he is seeking, Trump refused to alienate those racists and their votes, implicitly accepting the validity of their racist views. After his various comments about Mexicans and other minority groups this seems a more realistic explanation.

Is this the kind of person Americans want as POTUS and to represent them on the world stage?

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/2/2016 6:14:50 AM

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/2/2016 1:53:41 PM

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This is a simple question with a complex answer. Will Donald Trump save the republican party from itself?
3+ decades ago, Reagan invited Fallwell and his "Immoral Minority" into the Republican party. He thought he needed them to defeat Carter. He didn't. Fast forward 3 decades and the evangelicals run the whole fucking shooting match. Not only are they not republicans in the purest sense of the word, they aren't even followers of Christ.
The republican party has become a thing that only cares about the 3 G's. God, Guns and Gynecology. This is not what existed 30 years ago.
Could Trump change the platform of the party back to the days when it was the GRAND old Party?

ED for capitalization of an H

Dude, Trump is a compulsive liar, an incredibly poor businessman and an idiot who neither understands - nor possesses - domestic policy, economic policy, fiscal policy or foreign policy. He also has no idea what the Supreme Court is for and thinks he can make laws on his own.

A Trump presidency would be the political equivalent of America eating its own faeces.

Based on what we both know about Republican voters, that makes him a possible winner.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/2/2016 6:51:00 PM

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http://www.factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-david-duke-amnesia/

Duke ran for governor of Louisiana in 1991 as a Republican, and Trump said at the time that President George H.W. Bush was right “to come out against” Duke’s campaign. Duke lost but he won a majority of the white vote — which Trump found troubling. “I hate seeing what it represents,” Trump said, referring to what he called the “anger vote.”

Mindblowing.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/2/2016 7:22:26 PM

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People are just gonna hate how democracy works when Trump wins!
Democracy is convincing people to vote for you. That's all it is.

In Philippines, people win elections by simply going places to places and throw money in the air to get votes. And that's democracy too!

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/3/2016 12:04:51 PM

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And if trump doesn't win? That is the most likely of all scenarios being kicked around here.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/5/2016 6:35:13 PM

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Re: David Duke / NOI endorsements.

If I was writing Trump's speeches, the official position would be:

"Well folks, I've got friends in low places, whether I like them or not."

Of course, that's the beauty of Trump! Even when he is well prepared, he sounds off the cuff, and his most polished points are matte finish at best.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/5/2016 6:44:38 PM

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Re: David Duke / NOI endorsements.

If I was writing Trump's speeches, the official position would be:

"Well folks, I've got friends in low places, whether I like them or not."

Of course, that's the beauty of Trump! Even when he is well prepared, he sounds off the cuff, and his most polished points are matte finish at best.

I read somewhere that Trump should have said in the debate, "Little Marco, why are you so obsess with my body parts?"

I'd have love that!

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/5/2016 6:47:10 PM

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And actually, I just can't stand the left media about the constant lying of Trump, like now headlines everywhere says he backtracked about torture.

He backtracked nothing. He said he would do whatever it takes, but legally to take down terrorists right, which will include torture, IF it was legal.

And all he said now, is he would respect the limits of the US law.

Which was exactly what he said in the first place anyway!

He believes in torture. That's a personal belief. But it does not mean he will break US law to pursue his beliefs. He said he'll pursue through legal channels. Which is exactly correct.

Wayward post an article about a son interview his Dad, a Trump supporter, and the dude said, the moment he supported Trump was when he realise the left media were deliberately twisting everything Trump says. The problem is, the twist is soooo ridiculous, that people notice that WTF? You can't help but feel like the media is treating you like an idiot. And makes it so delightful to back Trump because it'd just piss off all these dishonest reporters or journalists if he was to be elected.

On top of that, in my country, and pretty much, it's true that Trump is pretty much hated by all Europeans, and in Asia, they also don't like him. My french buddy last night was just asking me again am I still gonna be a Trump fan after he talks about his dick in a Presidential debate? How could I still think someone like that is suitable for President?
But all they have over here for US news is dominantly Left Media propaganda, and worst for European media. So I get ribbed IRL alot for admitting I back Trump too constantly, my friends think my brain cells must have disintegrated drastically from watching Republican debates. But I stand by it. Many here are rooting for Clinton or Sanders. But all they read and watch is left Media. And even the left media barely has any news on Clinton and Sanders at all, but keep bashing the Reps candidates on all their political sections.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/5/2016 9:24:20 PM

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He promised to pay people too, his word was his bond.

Well, more than once it wasn't.

We have had W a president that went bankrupt oncet, why shouldn't he ruin this county who has 4 bankruptcies?

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/5/2016 11:51:57 PM

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Trump was like the only candidate who haven't been talking about alot of spending, except of that big wall his gonna built, but his talking about getting other people to pay for it. I know it's a tall order and I don't know how he will manage it. But I love the idea of free shit, that taxpayers don't have to pay for. And I'd give him 4 years just to try to make it happen. If he fails, vote someone else 4 years later.

I think his the least likely candidate to make America bankrupt or increase debt. As I said, I see his bankruptcy, and coming out richer despite of it, as a success. He has 4 times experience how to rise from debt.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 4:50:00 AM

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And actually, I just can't stand the left media about the constant lying of Trump, like now headlines everywhere says he backtracked about torture.

He backtracked nothing. He said he would do whatever it takes, but legally to take down terrorists right, which will include torture, IF it was legal.

You and he seem to think it is legal/right.

And all he said now, is he would respect the limits of the US law.

Which was exactly what he said in the first place anyway!

He believes in torture. That's a personal belief. But it does not mean he will break US law to pursue his beliefs. He said he'll pursue through legal channels. Which is exactly correct.

Haven't the morons in idaho told us the president rules by edict? How would the mop be different?

Wayward post an article about a son interview his Dad, a Trump supporter, and the dude said, the moment he supported Trump was when he realise the left media were deliberately twisting everything Trump says. The problem is, the twist is soooo ridiculous, that people notice that WTF? You can't help but feel like the media is treating you like an idiot.

What is the media to do when you act like an idiot?

And makes it so delightful to back Trump because it'd just piss off all these dishonest reporters or journalists if he was to be elected.

On top of that, in my country, and pretty much, it's true that Trump is pretty much hated by all Europeans, and in Asia, they also don't like him. My french buddy last night was just asking me again am I still gonna be a Trump fan after he talks about his dick in a Presidential debate? How could I still think someone like that is suitable for President?
But all they have over here for US news is dominantly Left Media propaganda, and worst for European media. So I get ribbed IRL alot for admitting I back Trump too constantly, my friends think my brain cells must have disintegrated drastically from watching Republican debates.

Perhaps your friends are on to something that the rest of us tumbled to a long time ago.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 5:01:47 AM

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Trump was like the only candidate who haven't been talking about alot of spending, except of that big wall his gonna built, but his talking about getting other people to pay for it. I know it's a tall order and I don't know how he will manage it.

How about it einstien...how is the donald going to con mexico into building a wall?

But I love the idea of free shit,

While honest people would prefer to pay for what they get.

that taxpayers don't have to pprefer toay for.

If a wall is built on amerikan soil it will be paid for by taxpayers.

And I'd give him 4 years just to try to make it happen.

Just how does someone who claims to be from from that third world shithole singapore give an amerkan president anything, let alone a vote? Don't you proof read your lies before you post?

If he fails, vote someone else 4 years later.

I think his the least likely candidate to make America bankrupt or increase debt. As I said, I see his bankruptcy, and coming out richer despite of it, as a success. He has 4 times experience how to rise from debt.

Actually that is so much bullshit. He ain't got near the money he claims.
http://fortune.com/2016/03/02/donald-trump-tax-returns-income/

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 5:05:42 AM

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Many here are rooting for Clinton or Sanders. But all they read and watch is left Media.

Perhaps you might tell us just who this left media is? But...before you stuff both feet in your mouth at the same time you might google just who owns that 'left" media and save yourelf a little more embarrasment.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 11:38:56 AM

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And actually, I just can't stand the left media about the constant lying of Trump, like now headlines everywhere says he backtracked about torture.

He backtracked nothing. He said he would do whatever it takes, but legally to take down terrorists right, which will include torture, IF it was legal.

And all he said now, is he would respect the limits of the US law.

Which was exactly what he said in the first place anyway!

Backtracked nothing? What he said all along?

Sorry... no

He originally said that "We have to go after their families" - referring to suspected terrorists. He is not saying that now.

He is completely backtracking, adding NOW that he would respect the limits of the law. Yes in a couple instances, he implied that he would have the law changed, but not in every instance.

In any case it is completely intellectually dishonest to claim that he is backtracking nothing, and that "was exactly what he said in the first place"

Sorry, that doesn't fly.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 6:05:25 PM

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How about it einstien...how is the donald going to con mexico into building a wall?

Well, please vote him as President to find out. I can't tell you how his gonna do it, since nobody is gonna give him a chance to make it happen.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 6:07:55 PM

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He originally said that "We have to go after their families" - referring to suspected terrorists. He is not saying that now.

His saying he will not do anything to trespass American laws. But he still wants to go after the families. But he will do in a legal way. IF he can't successfully do this legally then he won't do it, because priority is, respect the law first. That's what he means. He never backtracked on that at all. I never saw him once literally said, "I change my mind about going after the families."

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 6:09:22 PM

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How about it einstien...how is the donald going to con mexico into building a wall?

Well, please vote him as President to find out.

I make it a habit to never take advice from morons.

I can't tell you how his gonna do it,

Clearly you believe in magic.

since nobody is gonna give him a chance to make it happen.

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RE: Will Trump save the republican party? - 3/6/2016 6:12:21 PM

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And I'd give him 4 years just to try to make it happen.

Just how does someone who claims to be from from that third world shithole singapore give an amerkan president anything, let alone a vote? Don't you proof read your lies before you post?

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