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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 6:17:12 AM   
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and ignoring what bush did with the middle east POST 9/11

If Bush had continue to be at helm, I guarantee you, their targets will remain to be priority the USA. As US would have been the main antagonist. They shifted to Europe because Obama chose to no longer take the role of leading antagonist.

His doing it to direct terrorist attention AWAY from the US and let it become other people's problem.

That's what I was saying.

So I don't know what you are objecting to.

If Bush was at helm, Brussels will not be attacked at all! The focus would be still towards the US. As Bush would have kept interfering with the Rise of ISIS.




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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 7:01:20 AM   
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and ignoring what bush did with the middle east POST 9/11

If Bush had continue to be at helm, I guarantee you, their targets will remain to be priority the USA. As US would have been the main antagonist. They shifted to Europe because Obama chose to no longer take the role of leading antagonist.

His doing it to direct terrorist attention AWAY from the US and let it become other people's problem.

That's what I was saying.

So I don't know what you are objecting to.

If Bush was at helm, Brussels will not be attacked at all! The focus would be still towards the US. As Bush would have kept interfering with the Rise of ISIS.




DO you remember the other bombings after 9/11 worldwide?
Madrid(2004). London(2005). Bali(2002). mumbai(2008) Turkey. Russia(ossetia 2004) Moscow(2002)



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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 7:33:15 AM   
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DO you remember the other bombings after 9/11 worldwide?

Apparently not

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 8:49:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
and ignoring what bush did with the middle east POST 9/11

If Bush had continue to be at helm, I guarantee you, their targets will remain to be priority the USA. As US would have been the main antagonist. They shifted to Europe because Obama chose to no longer take the role of leading antagonist.

His doing it to direct terrorist attention AWAY from the US and let it become other people's problem.

That's what I was saying.

So I don't know what you are objecting to.

If Bush was at helm, Brussels will not be attacked at all! The focus would be still towards the US. As Bush would have kept interfering with the Rise of ISIS.





The rise of ISIS was a direct result of Bush's actions in Iraq. He created a power vacuum and an opportunity for militant groups to gain ground, and with the onset of the Syrian civil war it just grew exponentially. Learn some history Greta, ISIS wasn't a credible threat until several years ago, and the only reason why they are a threat is because the USA invaded and overthrew a government. But yes, I'll reiterate what Lucy said, there were a considerable number of attacks on European states after 9/11, but you can keep on believing that they didnt happen...

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 9:07:13 AM   
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prior to 9/11 what ahas the US done to offend alqueda
omfg, get some history in you
What happened between 9/11 and 2008????

Was this directed to me? Does nobody understand the meaning of prior to 9/11? That's BEFORE 2001. So what has 2001 to 2008 got to do with BEFORE 2001?

Infact, wasn't that Clinton era? What have they done to piss off Al Qaeda to deserve 9/11?

The US did nothing in response to several smaller terror attacks thus embolding them.

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 9:11:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
and ignoring what bush did with the middle east POST 9/11

If Bush had continue to be at helm, I guarantee you, their targets will remain to be priority the USA. As US would have been the main antagonist. They shifted to Europe because Obama chose to no longer take the role of leading antagonist.

His doing it to direct terrorist attention AWAY from the US and let it become other people's problem.

That's what I was saying.

So I don't know what you are objecting to.

If Bush was at helm, Brussels will not be attacked at all! The focus would be still towards the US. As Bush would have kept interfering with the Rise of ISIS.




You do know about the massive attack in Spain while Bush was president don't you. They go after weak links. That attack came just before a national election which turn the election around and resulted in Spain's withdraw from Iraq.

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 11:39:27 AM   
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DO you remember the other bombings after 9/11 worldwide?
Madrid(2004). London(2005). Bali(2002). mumbai(2008) Turkey. Russia(ossetia 2004) Moscow(2002)

Actually no, it's exactly between 2001 to 2009, I was not following the news and what goes on world wide as I was working in a job that is almost 7 days a week and 14 to 16 hours a day. I didn't know any of those bombings happened at all.

Still, okay, so other countries was attacked when Bush was at helm. But again, 9/11 was the first, so what did US do to spark 9/11? Surely its not gulf war. I do not believe for a moment Osama motivation was revenge for the Gulf war.

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 11:44:38 AM   
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The rise of ISIS was a direct result of Bush's actions in Iraq. He created a power vacuum and an opportunity for militant groups to gain ground, and with the onset of the Syrian civil war it just grew exponentially. Learn some history Greta, ISIS wasn't a credible threat until several years ago, and the only reason why they are a threat is because the USA invaded and overthrew a government. But yes, I'll reiterate what Lucy said, there were a considerable number of attacks on European states after 9/11, but you can keep on believing that they didnt happen...

ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qaeda, so basically 9/11 was unprovoked. But US actions were in vengeance over 9/11. If US had done nothing in response to 9/11, do you truly believe it would miraculously have no more attacks? And all countries will be safe?

Infact from a documentary I saw, ISIS was form in Guantanamo bay. First leader who built up ISIS was released from Guantanamo bay. So the problem is, all the political correct issues of trying not to convict innocents, when most terrorists would cover themselves up as innocents.

It's exactly like the belgium bombings, where they knew about the dude and his plans 6 months ago, but not enough solid evidence to do anything to him to stop him!

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 11:47:09 AM   
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you have to choose your info carefully.

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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 12:16:48 PM   
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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 12:30:20 PM   
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laters all.


Oh shit..this just came up on my feed...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35908512
Pakistan explosion leaves many dead at Lahore park
at least 40 dead
im outta here.


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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 12:33:53 PM   
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if you watch fox news, there are several people saying that hilary is a founding member of isis...

you have to choose your info carefully.

It's not a fox news documentary.
And dude was release for good behaviour and also, encouraging all the terrorists in Guantanamo bay to behave and co-operate. He was seen as a harmless nice guy, so they released him. But the fact that other prisoners listened and followed him, since Guantanamo bay days, is already the first sign of a new leader form.


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RE: Brussels, Belgium - 3/27/2016 3:38:13 PM   
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You do know about the massive attack in Spain while Bush was president don't you. They go after weak links. That attack came just before a national election which turn the election around and resulted in Spain's withdraw from Iraq.


Why should spain be in iraq?
Why should amerika be in iraq?

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:33:38 PM   
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Allen I didn't say anything about who was the master mind... just that some came in as refugees...why don't you take the foul mouth down a little... no one listens to you anymore because of it.


Good plan Butch, make this about me for pointing out you talk bollocks. You replied with a silly link, months out of date, as a riposte to my post #129

That post still stands and the facts, if you can ever be arsed to check them out, shows just that.


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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:39:11 PM   
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Allen I didn't say anything about who was the master mind... just that some came in as refugees...why don't you take the foul mouth down a little... no one listens to you anymore because of it.

could you point out how many of the paris bombers were refugees?


Or the Belgian bombers.......... Post a few facts Lucy and the shrill dies down. the last of the Brussels airport bombers was cught because the Muslim taxi driver who dropped them off, saw an E-fit, went to the cops, and a raid on where the supects had been staying followed.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:43:48 PM   
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I posted the link... I read it... maybe others should.

Butch


And again, your link was bollocks and out of date. Thats what happens when the press dash for the next deadline before waiting to get the facts.

Sorry for the bad language, fuckwit.

Try answering Lucys question........ How many of the bombers were refugees ?

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:52:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The facts are as I stated... refute them if you can... but be sure to read both links...closely. I made it about you only because I do research before I post... That does not always mean they will be right... I always state when my comments will be opinion. I admit to frustration now and then that does lead to somewhat radical opinions but they are just that and stated as such.

What I don't do is berate you for your honest opinions no matter how opposed I may be to them. You often make good points and I just don't think you realize how your frustrations, attitude, and style turn people away from your posts... Otherwise ignore you...and that would be a waste.

Butch

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:54:39 PM   
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Politesub, how am I trying to curtail your right to use free speech?
I am talking about my right to express how I feel.
Also, my family on both sides have been in this country since slavery. {over 150 years}
I am a Black American.
Why are you asking me how I feel about Africian immigration?
Because I am Black?
Racial profiling

In response to post #168



LOL @ your racial profiling comment. I didnt ask you how you felt about African immigration, I asked you and I quote "No doubt he will rightly say he never said "all" Would you still support him if he made the same claim about Africa ? "

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 4:58:54 PM   
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The facts are as I stated... refute them if you can... but be sure to read both links...closely. I made it about you only because I do research before I post... That does not always mean they will be right... I always state when my comments will be opinion. I admit to frustration now and then that does lead to somewhat radical opinions but they are just that and stated as such.

What I don't do is berate you for your honest opinions no matter how opposed I may be to them. You often make good points and I just don't think you realize how your frustrations, attitude, and style turn people away from your posts... Otherwise ignore you...and that would be a waste.

Butch



Get a grip man..... I not only refuted your posts but told you why....... Dont you dare claim to do research on what you post if your research is so sloppy.

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RE: Brussels Belgian - 3/27/2016 5:00:47 PM   
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