MrRodgers
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Marini,
It's not a question of whether a country is -capable- (or not) of whatever amount of immigrants they can accept at a particular time or not.
You didn't vote for it, I didn't vote for it, but the indisputable and unavoidable fact is that the US invaded the middle east in the most blatantly outlandish manner possible, at the behest of oil companies, and you know it.
No, the question is; is the invader up to the task of dealing with the consequences?
Throughout history, but especially more in the 20th century and the new millennia, invasion has been followed by immigration from the invaded country to the invaders. How do you think we wound up with all those Asians on the West coast and elsewhere? (thanks to that for my wonderful Vietnamese hair cutter here in the East. USA.)
The US suckered enough European countries to go along with this gross misadventure (not that we should let them off the hook completely for that, but jeebus, it was almost like one of those 'police entrapment' things), and strong-armed enough other countries (by threat of cutting off their exports to the US) to join in, in that happy "coalition of the willing."
So, after all that, we're supposed to be able to shove off the responsibility for the consequences to other countries?
Again; you didn't vote for the invasion, I didn't vote for it, but neither did anybody (any citizen) else in the world. It happened. Many people's lives in the Mideast are ruined, the intensity of an already destabilized region is being ratcheted up by the day, and unlike the ~20 years it took to straighten out Europe after WW II, I think we might be looking at at least 60 years for this one. (23 years non-stop already and nowhere near ending, let alone the 'recovery' part.)
What do you suggest, that we burden the Europeans even more because the US and UK have never been able to refrain from lowering their pants to the oil companies for 100 years running?
Yup. we are reaping what they sowed. But there ain't any money in it.
T^T
Oh on the contrary. war, any war is the gift that...keeps on giving. There's always Billion$ in it. Where do you think something like $10 billion for the Marshall Plan went ? Where do you think all of those Iraqi/spent Billion$ went ? Where do you think the Billion$ spent on the ME is going now ? If it's 60 years, it's 60 years of profits. (think bonuses)
On an annual basis, CSBA estimates, (Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments) the U.S. military's operation against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (or ISIS) could cost as much as $22 billion dollars a year. ISIS ? You gotta love these pagan queens picked as names for Muslim groups.
The National Priorities Project (NPP) last month issued an estimate that the military action against ISIS had already cost U.S. taxpayers $312,500 per hour and, according to their running tally, has cost over $804 million. HERE
Hell, even a friend, 20something, dropped out of the Seals for a heart problem, went to Afghan. as a civil engineer. Worked there for the required 331 days. (?) tax free...$150,000 and got the fuck out. Nice work if you can get it.
As far the powers that be are concerned, there is addition and subtraction, the rest is merely conversation.
< Message edited by MrRodgers -- 4/4/2016 12:58:16 AM >
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