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You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?

And every pro gun person on here condemed the parents for their poor jusdgement.

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Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.

I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.

You like to see anyone you disagree with hurt, dead even better.

That statement my RIFfed welfare friend, explicitly states that you agree with her and her childs actions as a patriotic act. See if you can fix your logic a bit, while shooting pizza boys. As it stands it is a perfect example of imbecilic nutsuckerism though.

A at no point did I say I agreed wiyh people using bad judgement,
B at no point did I say I was riffted, and I wasn't
C I protect pizza men, I don't attack them

Wrong on all counts, par for you.

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.
But of course, people who oppose the 2nd come up with ridiculous scenerios and pretend to think the 2nd would support them. A child/toddler can not legally make such decisions for themselfs so the the parents have every right to keep them from guns, just like they have the right to not let them play with matches or sharp objects untill they are old enough.

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You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?

And every pro gun person on here condemed the parents for their poor jusdgement.

No, it hasnt been discussed, not on this forum at least.

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Interesting question, this. I've sometimes wondered how people are able blithely to forget about the 2nd and how it applies to *the people*. The 2nd makes no mention of 'adults'. So, why is it that the USA's adults are generally so apparently free of qualms about giving their toddlers and babies firearms? And why has no one invented a gun for foetuses - since, as we all know, yet-to-be-born children are, after all, still people?

I don't know .... re the subject of the OP: Maybe, if one were to transport the Founding Fathers to the modern day by means of a Tardis or the like, they'd say, 'Look, just because we're called the 'Founding Fathers', that doesn't mean you should all think and act like our half-witted kids. Why don't you just use your common sense, you blithering simpletons?'

Perhaps the reason you can't understand the lack of qualms American adults have with giving firearms to toddlers is because it doesn't exist. The media totally misrepresents this as they do with most things having to do with firearms.
They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.

I giggle like a 9 year old fuckin schoolgirl every time some 2 year old kid shoots their mullet headed toothless ol momma/sister/aunt/girlfriend welfare bitch from the shopping cart at Wal-Mart. The second amendment is definitely a right extended to children,and imbeciles, as our founding fathers intended. "merika!!!!! drops mic.

You like to see anyone you disagree with hurt, dead even better.

That statement my RIFfed welfare friend, explicitly states that you agree with her and her childs actions as a patriotic act. See if you can fix your logic a bit, while shooting pizza boys. As it stands it is a perfect example of imbecilic nutsuckerism though.

A at no point did I say I agreed wiyh people using bad judgement,
B at no point did I say I was riffted, and I wasn't
C I protect pizza men, I don't attack them

Wrong on all counts, par for you.

A. Of course you did in your ignorant slur to me.
B.I said you were riffed, 12 years a slave and 15 years an E5. THAT IS 10 YEARS OVERDUE FOR A RIF.
C. Then why are you allowing nutsuckers to take your guns away and shirk their 2nd amendment rights by apologizing for it? Those who would give up an essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. Benjamin Franklin

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.

No, but it can allow people to get away with stupidity when it suits them.

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.
But of course, people who oppose the 2nd come up with ridiculous scenerios and pretend to think the 2nd would support them. A child/toddler can not legally make such decisions for themselfs so the the parents have every right to keep them from guns, just like they have the right to not let them play with matches or sharp objects untill they are old enough.

And again you miss the point.

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You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?

And every pro gun person on here condemed the parents for their poor jusdgement.

No, it hasnt been discussed, not on this forum at least.

Then there was a simular incident and my comment stands for it. The one in wallmart where the anti gun freaks tried, like here to claim that pro 2nd people had no problem with it. You have to admit that you weren't specific as to what incident.

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You missed the case of the gun rights activist whose toddler shot her in the back?

And every pro gun person on here condemed the parents for their poor jusdgement.

No, it hasnt been discussed, not on this forum at least.

Then there was a simular incident and my comment stands for it. The one in wallmart where the anti gun freaks tried, like here to claim that pro 2nd people had no problem with it. You have to admit that you weren't specific as to what incident.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3484064/Pro-gun-poster-girl-shot-four-year-old-son-driving-Florida-boy-pistol-seat-truck.html

PS you assumed....

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.
But of course, people who oppose the 2nd come up with ridiculous scenerios and pretend to think the 2nd would support them. A child/toddler can not legally make such decisions for themselfs so the the parents have every right to keep them from guns, just like they have the right to not let them play with matches or sharp objects untill they are old enough.

And again you miss the point.

No I don't. His point is that he believes that we have to allow those incapable of being rational to exorcise the full rights of a functioning adult.
It is like saying that if voting is a right we have to let toddlers vote.

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They take a possed picture of a toddler with an EMPTY gun on facebook and pretend that this means the parents let the kids carry guns around unsupervised. It is another piece of propagada that you believe because you never see the truth.

I think you read me wrong and that that might be down to my mis-phrasing. I'm sure US adults *do* have qualms about giving guns to toddlers. But my point was that, theoretically, they shouldn't - because, per the 2nd, toddlers are after all *people*.

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That is because you don't like the 2nd, at no point does it require stupidity.
But of course, people who oppose the 2nd come up with ridiculous scenerios and pretend to think the 2nd would support them. A child/toddler can not legally make such decisions for themselfs so the the parents have every right to keep them from guns, just like they have the right to not let them play with matches or sharp objects untill they are old enough.

And again you miss the point.

No I don't. His point is that he believes that we have to allow those incapable of being rational to exorcise the full rights of a functioning adult.
It is like saying that if voting is a right we have to let toddlers vote.

No. Voting was only ever a right for adults, defined as such.

I'm saying that *technically* you'd have to let kids have full rights to carry guns, per the letter of the constitution. Likewise, *technically*, there can't be a female president. Ffortunately, even the most punctilious 'originalist' is unlikely to argue with kiddies brandishing guns; so, likewise they'd be unlikely to contend that the Constitution prohibits a female president.

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Both are absurd assumptions.

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Both are absurd assumptions.

You finally got it.