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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 7:50:52 AM   
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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 7:51:54 AM   
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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 7:56:08 AM   
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and another goodie:


Country Must Be Country Wide

By Brantley Gilbert

I grew up south of the Mason Dixon
Workin,' spittin', huntin' and fishin'
Stone cold country by the grace of God

I was gasin' up the other day
And an ol' boy pulled up with a license plate
From Ohio I thought oh good Lord he's lost
From his wranglers to his boots
He reminded me of Chris LeDoux
And that Copenhagen smile
Country must be country wide

In every state, there's a station
Playin' Cash, Hank, Willie, and Waylon
In foreign cars and four wheel drives

There's cowboys and hillbillies
From farm towns to big cities
There ain't no doubt in my mind
Country must be country wide

It ain't where, it's how you live
We weren't raised to take
We were raised to give
The shirt off our back
To anyone in need

We bow our heads before we eat
Before we start our day
Before we fall asleep
Cause in God we trust and we believe

And we see what's wrong
And we know what's right
And ol' Hank he said it all
When he said country folks can survive

In every state, there's a station,
Playin' Cash, Hank, Willie, and Waylon
In foreign cars and four wheel drives

There's cowboys and hillbillies
From farm towns to big cities
There ain't no doubt in my mind
Country must be country wide, yeah get on it dog

In every state, there's a station, c'mon y'all better crank this up
In every state, there's a station
Playin' Cash, Hank, Willie, and Waylon
In foreign cars and four wheel drives

There's cowboys and hillbillies
From farm towns to big cities
There ain't no doubt in my mind, there ain't no doubt in my mind
Country must be country wide

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 7:56:10 AM   
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I wonder if you've ever gone back and listened to some of the pop protest songs of the 60s and early 70s?

Gonna need some recommendations to listen to it.



Masters of War--Bob Dylan
Not everyone likes his voice, so here's a downright chilling cover by Eddie Vedder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMw79ozf52o

Morning Dew--written by Bonnie Dobson, made famous by the Grateful Dead
Brought to a slow boil live at Alpine Valley, Wisconsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cclBbXYKJXE

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 8:00:28 AM   
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greta also---though I don't like his politics at all, springsteen is one of my favorite artists---his discography is full of what you might call blue collar class working songs.

give a listen to "the river" and "Youngstown" for starters. and for a variant, try "ghost of tom joad" (have you read the grapes of wrath?)

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 11:22:13 AM   
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Montgomery Gentry


Hell Yeah!


He works way too much for way too little
He drinks way too early till way too late
He hasn't had raise since New Years Day in eighty-eight
Gets trampled on by everyone 'cept when comes in here

Now he's a product of the Haggard generation
He's got a redneck side when you get him agitated
He got the gold tooth look from a stiff right hook
He's proud he took for his right wing stand on Vietnam

Says, he lost his brother there he yells out, Johnny Cash
And the band starts to play a 'Ring of Fire'
As he walks up and stands there by the stage
And he says
Hell yeah, turn it up, right on
Hell yeah, sounds good, sing that song
Guitar man, play it all night long
Take me back to where the music hit me
Life was good, and love was easy

She's got MBA and a plush corner office
She's got a don't mess with me attitude
She'll close the deal, she don't reveal that she can feel
The loneliness, the emptiness 'cept when she comes in here

And she's a product of the me generation
She got a rock and roll side when you get her agitated
She got the tattoo there on her derriere from a spring break dare
In Panama where love was all she thought shed ever need

She yells out to the band, now any Bruce Springsteen
Then she jumps up on the bar
And she, and she starts to scream
She says
Hell yeah, turn it up, right on
Hell yeah, sounds good, sing that song
Guitar man, play it all night long
Take me back to where the music hit me
Life was good, and love was easy

Yeah, yeah, anything to get my mind off thinking 'bout
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
Hey, hell, yeah

Hell yeah, turn it up, right on, right on
Hell yeah, sounds good, sing that song
Guitar man, play it all night long
Take me back to where the music hit me, life was good

Hell yeah, turn it up, right on
Hell yeah, sounds good, sing that song
Guitar man, play it all night long
Take me back to where the music hit me
Life was good, and love was easy


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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 3:21:57 PM   
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love that one too zonie!

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 4:50:53 PM   
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Lol!! Why does every pro-america song shown so far gotta be pro-hillbillies?

It's like saying the real america is the jesusland in the south!

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 4:59:10 PM   
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its not that at all greta---that's just a little path we went down.

but that said--that was my point early on, contemporary country music is fairly conservative, and so "pro-America/love of country" tends to show up in it.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/11/2016 5:48:59 PM   
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FR
Lol!! Why does every pro-america song shown so far gotta be pro-hillbillies?

It's like saying the real america is the jesusland in the south!


I suppose it kind of seems that way. I'm no expert on music, but I think the roots of most American music comes from the South - folk, jazz, blues, ragtime.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/12/2016 4:40:04 AM   
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am speaking in broad strokes here too---and the south is much more Christian than is the north, and historically rural. I suspect there are book chapters and academic papers out there written about how those two aspects have influenced the history and nature of the music.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/12/2016 4:47:46 PM   
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The south is likely more pseudo-christian than the north, that could be stipulated.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 10:12:43 AM   
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Lol!! Why does every pro-america song shown so far gotta be pro-hillbillies?

It's like saying the real america is the jesusland in the south!


so greta---have you given a listen to, or watched anything?

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 3:54:18 PM   
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FR
Lol!! Why does every pro-america song shown so far gotta be pro-hillbillies?

It's like saying the real america is the jesusland in the south!


so greta---have you given a listen to, or watched anything?


Great idea.
Here's a playlist for you, Greta:

25 Best Country Songs Titles Of All Time
These are all genuine songs, mainly released in the United States (how surprising).
1. Get Your Tongue Outta My Mouth Cause I’m Kissing You Goodbye!
2. I Don’t Know Whether To Kill Myself or Go Bowling
3. If I Can’t Be Number One In Your Life, Then Number Two On You
4. I Sold A Car To A Guy Who Stole My Girl, But It Don’t Run - So we’re even
5. Mamma Get A Hammer (There’s A Fly On Papa’s Head)
6. If The Phone Don’t Ring, You’ll Know It’s Me
7. She’s Actin’ Single and I’m Drinkin’ Doubles
8. How Can I Miss You If You Won’t Go Away?
9. I Keep Forgettin’ I Forgot About You
10. I Liked You Better Before I Knew You So Well
11. I Still Miss You, Baby, But My Aim’s Getting Better
12. I Wouldn’t Take Her To A Dog Fight, ‘Cause I’m Afraid She’d Win
13. I’ll Marry You Tomorrow, But Let’s Honeymoon Tonight
14. I’m So Miserable Without You; It’s like Having You Here
15. I’ve Got Tears In My Ears From Lyin’ On My Back And Cryin’ Over You
16. If I Had Shot You When I Wanted To, I’d Be Out By Now
17. My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don’t Love You
18. My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, And I Sure Do Miss Him
19. Please Bypass This Heart
20. She Got The Ring And I Got The Finger
21. If My Nose Was Full of Nickels, I’d Blow It All On You
22. You’re The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly
23. Her Teeth Was Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure
24. She’s Lookin’ Better After Every Beer
25. I Haven’t Gone To Bed With Ugly Women, But I’ve Sure Woke Up With a Few



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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 4:37:14 PM   
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Until a few years ago Pete Seegar still performed at schools in the area. So what comes first to my mind for a pro America protest song isn't one from the Deep South. But one from Greenwich Village instead. This Land is Your Land by The Weavers.

Arlo Guthrie learned his politics from his father Woody.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 5:08:22 PM   
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Lol!! Why does every pro-america song shown so far gotta be pro-hillbillies?

It's like saying the real america is the jesusland in the south!


Just for you Greta. Since you say "pro America" and not necessarily political here are just a few rock tunes from way back to not so far back. There are also a lot of heavy metal and rap "pro America" songs, as well as more classic rock and "oldies" rock.

Aint That America.....John Mellencamp
R.O.C.K in the U.S.A......John Mellencamp
Born in the USA .....Bruce Springsteen
Rockin in the Free World.....Neil Young
Citizen Soldier.....3 Doors Down
The Star Spangled Banner.....Jimi Hendrix (Metallica has a similar version)
Red White and Blue.....Lynyrd Skynyrd
Rockin' in the USA.....Kiss
Warrior.....Kid Rock
Livin' in the US.....Steve Miller Band
Back in the USA .....Chuck Berry


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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 5:30:26 PM   
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"I first visited the US at 12 yr old, and......My impression of US back then was it's very unsafe, gunshots keep happening, and lots of people begging and living on the streets."

We have even more of that now...come back....bring money!!!!

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/13/2016 5:58:25 PM   
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I was having some nostalgia and revisiting the band that brought me into hardcore music, which is my first love where music is concern.

So the very first song, and first band I ever heard was this classic New York Hardcore Band, called Sick of It All.

And the song is called Just Look Around.

It struck me, I first visited the US at 12 yr old, and after my visit, I discovered this song, although non-related. My impression of US back then was it's very unsafe, gunshots keep happening, and lots of people begging and living on the streets. We even got attack for not giving money. This was in LA. But this is a musician who wrote this song in 1992, that was his perception of his own country. I visited for the first time in 1993. It struck me today that, everything he sees in 1992 is still mostly true on 2016. Nothing has changed ha! That's amazing, these lyrics can mostly be applicable to what's been happening the past few years. Not much progress.

The question they keep asking me
how can one so young be so bitter and angry
well, the answer is plain to see
maybe if they wern't so blind they'd see what i see
i see the homeless livin' out on the street
on every corner they're asking for money
i try to help them whenever i can
but sometimes i can't afford to help myself
i see diseases and modern plagues of our times
the greed of our leaders has made them blind
to our problems
they spend millions overseas,
people right here are fightin' wars everyday

I see the whites that hate the blacks
blacks against the jews, race against religion
and the're all too blind to see

When we fight each other it puts all of them at ease
it keeps us so busy, so they can do what they please
election time comes and they're out for votes
that's when you see and hear from them the most
this is what they're calling a democracy
that's just another word for hypocrisy
we keep fallin' for the bait
when we realize, it's always too late

I see the whites that hate the blacks
blacks that hate the jews, brother against brother
and they're all to blind to see

As the rich get richer, the poor goin' hungry
i've seen the toll it takes on the workingman's family
education system that's obsolete
can't hold a kid's interest or keep 'em off the street
see a father's fear, hear a mother's cry
what kind of a nation lets their children die
government's corrupt and full of red tape
then you're gonna ask me why i hate

Why don't you open up your eyes so you can see
open up your ears so you can hear
take a look around and you will find
take a look around and you will find out why



Another brilliant political band I loved since a teen is The Broadways, a pop punk band. This is their own country through their own description.

The song is Jonathon Kozol was Right, and was released in 1998. Not too far away.
i read a book the other day about public schools in our nation
an indictment of our prevailing caste system
it seems so many things i've taken for granted others cant access at all
i ditched computer class while others had no books
i learned to hate my halls, there's holes in walls in schools right in my town
serving the rich, keeping the lower classes down
what do i mean by this statement?
it seems only too clear with your english class in a bathroom
how well do you think you'd fare?
i read of schools so overcrowded no room could be saved
not auditoriums, cafeterias or closet space.
a school's income is determined by property tax
and how much money can you get from poor mexican
and black families trapped in slums
poor kids need the most attention
but since they're untaxable they get none
and because the system sucks when the kids grow up
they'll have to send their kids back into the system that fucked them
it's a cycle that for years has not been broken
there's a name for this it's social reproduction
and we maintain this caste system by letting them enforce it
we're all flowers growing in a garbage can"
the teachers tell their kids
but how can a flower grow when the sunlight's blocked by the lid?
distribute property tax more fairly at least that's a start
cuz little flowers can't grow in the darkness they need everything we've got.


This song is 2nd Grade Cells 4:23, released in 2000.

Tears are not enough to change a system
Do we want an equal race for education?
Shop, buy, consume, this is what we teach our children to look up to
Economic security doesn't seem to be the meaning of education to me
We need to teach about diversity, compassion and love
About the effects of technology
To be aware that we destroy while we consume
To question all authority
No money for public education
But ample funds to keep people in prison
Jails can now be run by major corporations
Prisons offer more and cheaper labor
Found courage in the center of a bomb, green back dollars
We can blow up anything we want
Since when is national defense more important than teaching children?
I'm afraid its always been, state of the union
Catch phrase builds public opinion in the closed eyes of a nation
Work around the problem, sweep it under carpets
Lock it up in prisons till it's forgotten
We're approaching the millennium
Education is more important than bombs
More police on the streets isn't solving problems
Who are we going to turn to
To teach our children to question this machine,
education, the dead American dream
In Indiana the number of cells built is determined by
the socio-economic status of a class of second graders
The cells all must be filled
With every prison that we build we lose four or five more schools
Tears are not enough



I hope this was improved now. As a teenager, whom never experienced these things and things like this do not occur in my country at least during my time as a child, this was how I was introduced to the US.

I realise my deep interest in American Politics came from all the music I grew up listening to, hearing all these musicians tell stories of their own perception of the US they lived in which was really quite interesting about the problems.



Where were you in the US? Most of it isn't like that.

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RE: Politics in Music - 4/14/2016 4:48:33 AM   
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Born in the USA .....Bruce Springsteen

Livin' in the US.....Steve Miller Band


Not sure that I would call these "pro-American" songs. Born in the USA by Springsteen is definitely not (although many people who didn't listen to the lyrics thought it was). Livin' in the USA may be borderline, since it talks about "livin' in a plastic land."

On the other hand, I do remember a parody song done to the tune of The Knack's My Sharona which was called "Ayatollah."

Then there was a song from 1986 produced by a KUPD disc jockey called "Drop it on Gaddafi."


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RE: Politics in Music - 4/14/2016 4:50:08 AM   
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This was in LA.



Where were you in the US? Most of it isn't like that.


She said it was in LA.

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