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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 11:20:37 AM   
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No one blamed them on a stupid Youtube video


im incredulous---Hillary Clinton said exactly that at the service when family members were present after the caskets had been brought off the plane.




Hillary also explained doing so as "The Fog of War" at the Senate Bengazi hearings. Hillary is someone therefore, someone did blame a stupid video. I watched the video. It was pretty stupid. It was supposed to be about Mohammad fucking a jackass. I was thinking Tiajana. I was pretty disappointed.



Except in either case she never blamed it on a video. That is pure nutsuckerism. The kind that you can see Russia from your house.


Except that the person that said - you can see Russia from your house was Tina Fey.

And Clinton, did of course blame benghazi on a video.



Her statement at 10 pm

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Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.


And here's her statement Sept 14:

quote:


This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with.


And while clinton is toeing the line legally - there is no question the she is planting the impression that rage and violence caused by a video was responsible for the attack on benghazi. When in fact - it HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

No one - other than than the administration - was blaming the attack on inflammatory material posted on the Internet. I defy you find one mainstream cite that says that, prior to the administrations comments on the tragedy.

The only person who took contemporaneous notes - which would be admissable in a court of law - has clinton making that statement. (Woods).
Kate Quigly - also says that Clinton blamed a "spontaneous protest".
Smith said - clinton promised to arrest the film maker responsible.


Since when are three eye witnesses to an event insufficient to establish proof?

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 11:27:23 AM   
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Since when are three eye witnesses to an event insufficient to establish proof?


When it does not fit the narrative.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 12:30:51 PM   
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http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/22/hillary-i-needed-to-be-talking-about-the-video-after-the-benghazi-attack-video/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QSooz2wXpes

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 12:42:44 PM   
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Her statement at 10 pm

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Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.


And here's her statement Sept 14:

quote:


This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with.


Very plain English spoken there, she blamed no internet video on the Benghazi attack. Nutsucker dictionary translations notwithstanding.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 12:44:32 PM   
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Fast & Furious is back is what the ladies call me. Then I have them locked up.

Ah, another variant of America selling guns - see I clicked the link(ta).

Who cares and why? You sell tanks and bazookas to lunatics, militias. (Iran bizarre coincidence I read that story today) as your presidents were greeting(means crying) about what countries they wrecked and fuked up

Obama, Libya and all the presidents' regrets

I an truly intrigued at the non-existent possibility (his own party will stop him as i predicted a long time ago while not lucid on a cheap Chardonnay bender) of Buffoonery (trump) becoming president and him invoking his scorched earth policy

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 12:53:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

No one blamed them on a stupid Youtube video


im incredulous---Hillary Clinton said exactly that at the service when family members were present after the caskets had been brought off the plane.




Hillary also explained doing so as "The Fog of War" at the Senate Bengazi hearings. Hillary is someone therefore, someone did blame a stupid video. I watched the video. It was pretty stupid. It was supposed to be about Mohammad fucking a jackass. I was thinking Tiajana. I was pretty disappointed.



Except in either case she never blamed it on a video. That is pure nutsuckerism. The kind that you can see Russia from your house.


Except that the person that said - you can see Russia from your house was Tina Fey.

And Clinton, did of course blame benghazi on a video.



Her statement at 10 pm

quote:


Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.


And here's her statement Sept 14:

quote:


This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with.


And while clinton is toeing the line legally - there is no question the she is planting the impression that rage and violence caused by a video was responsible for the attack on benghazi. When in fact - it HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

No one - other than than the administration - was blaming the attack on inflammatory material posted on the Internet. I defy you find one mainstream cite that says that, prior to the administrations comments on the tragedy.

The only person who took contemporaneous notes - which would be admissable in a court of law - has clinton making that statement. (Woods).
Kate Quigly - also says that Clinton blamed a "spontaneous protest".
Smith said - clinton promised to arrest the film maker responsible.


Since when are three eye witnesses to an event insufficient to establish proof?


I see vile critter parts is likely trying to parse words and thoughts like Hillary did.

here's some of what youre stating, and the despicable and decrepit position he wants to cling to:

quote:

Meanwhile, at the Thursday hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) demolished Clinton's apparently fresh assertion at the hearing that she didn't actually claim an obscure anti-Islam movie trailer posted on YouTube prompted the terrorist assault in Benghazi on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. She now takes a more nuanced, twisted-like-a-pretzel position in which maybe some non-terrorist Muslims were suddenly stirred to violence in Libya by the video, but really at the same time it was a terrorist attack, something she testified Thursday has been her position the whole time. She talked about the video publicly not to point fingers but as a warning, she testified, to those who might attack U.S. interests in the region. In other words, like a good defense lawyer, Hillary was trying to confuse the issues and muddy the waters.

Clinton, who seems able to function just fine with what must be chronic cognitive dissonance, said minutes before Jordan's question:

quote:

I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said some have sought to justify the attack because of the video. I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.


Jordan fired back:

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We want to know the truth. The statement you sent out was a statement on Benghazi and you say vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material on the Internet. If that's not pointing as the motive of being a video, I don't know what is. And that's certainly what -- and that's certainly how the American people saw it.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260544/hillary-i-didnt-blame-benghazi-youtube-video-matthew-vadum



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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 1:09:29 PM   
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then of course there's this (they must be lying nutsuckers!)

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Mother of Benghazi victim: Hillary and Susan Rice told me “nose to nose” that the Mohammed video was to blame.

This makes two parents of men killed in Benghazi who’ve claimed that Hillary told them personally that the video was the prime mover in the attack. Tyrone Woods’s father went a step further and alleged that she vowed to have the filmmaker “arrested and prosecuted”


news for delusional liberals

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 1:19:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

quote:

No one blamed them on a stupid Youtube video


im incredulous---Hillary Clinton said exactly that at the service when family members were present after the caskets had been brought off the plane.




Hillary also explained doing so as "The Fog of War" at the Senate Bengazi hearings. Hillary is someone therefore, someone did blame a stupid video. I watched the video. It was pretty stupid. It was supposed to be about Mohammad fucking a jackass. I was thinking Tiajana. I was pretty disappointed.



Except in either case she never blamed it on a video. That is pure nutsuckerism. The kind that you can see Russia from your house.


Except that the person that said - you can see Russia from your house was Tina Fey.

And Clinton, did of course blame benghazi on a video.



Her statement at 10 pm

quote:


Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet [my emphasis]. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind.


And here's her statement Sept 14:

quote:


This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with.


And while clinton is toeing the line legally - there is no question the she is planting the impression that rage and violence caused by a video was responsible for the attack on benghazi. When in fact - it HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

No one - other than than the administration - was blaming the attack on inflammatory material posted on the Internet. I defy you find one mainstream cite that says that, prior to the administrations comments on the tragedy.

The only person who took contemporaneous notes - which would be admissable in a court of law - has clinton making that statement. (Woods).
Kate Quigly - also says that Clinton blamed a "spontaneous protest".
Smith said - clinton promised to arrest the film maker responsible.


Since when are three eye witnesses to an event insufficient to establish proof?


I see vile critter parts is likely trying to parse words and thoughts like Hillary did.

here's some of what youre stating, and the despicable and decrepit position he wants to cling to:

quote:

Meanwhile, at the Thursday hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) demolished Clinton's apparently fresh assertion at the hearing that she didn't actually claim an obscure anti-Islam movie trailer posted on YouTube prompted the terrorist assault in Benghazi on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. She now takes a more nuanced, twisted-like-a-pretzel position in which maybe some non-terrorist Muslims were suddenly stirred to violence in Libya by the video, but really at the same time it was a terrorist attack, something she testified Thursday has been her position the whole time. She talked about the video publicly not to point fingers but as a warning, she testified, to those who might attack U.S. interests in the region. In other words, like a good defense lawyer, Hillary was trying to confuse the issues and muddy the waters.

Clinton, who seems able to function just fine with what must be chronic cognitive dissonance, said minutes before Jordan's question:

quote:

I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said some have sought to justify the attack because of the video. I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.


Jordan fired back:

quote:

We want to know the truth. The statement you sent out was a statement on Benghazi and you say vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material on the Internet. If that's not pointing as the motive of being a video, I don't know what is. And that's certainly what -- and that's certainly how the American people saw it.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260544/hillary-i-didnt-blame-benghazi-youtube-video-matthew-vadum




LOL, cockgargler44 felching his rancid shit from the dirtiest asses available, gargling that toiletwater.



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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/13/2016 1:21:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

then of course there's this (they must be lying nutsuckers!)

quote:

Mother of Benghazi victim: Hillary and Susan Rice told me “nose to nose” that the Mohammed video was to blame.

This makes two parents of men killed in Benghazi who’ve claimed that Hillary told them personally that the video was the prime mover in the attack. Tyrone Woods’s father went a step further and alleged that she vowed to have the filmmaker “arrested and prosecuted”


news for delusional liberals


and an addendum to the cockgargle. brilliant. there is no end to the toiletlicking that nutsuckers will felch.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 12:16:22 PM   
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I guess the Republicans in Congress have nothing better to do with their time, eh?

Like....run the country? I predicted at the start of the current session of House members, that this group would accomplish....

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF USE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

After 17 months of House Republican bullshit, I am correct. Further, they are looking for something.....ANYTHING....to attack Democrats on. They can not attack them on a whole host of things, like foreign policy, domestic policy, or reality. I heard that many of those first time Tea Partier's in the House are leaving after this current session, to 'pursue other things in life'. No, the GOP realizes these morons have done absolutely nothing. That the Democratic challengers can more easily convince people whom are angered at Congress doing nothing, to vote for them. Since last time Democrats controlled Congress, SHIT GOT DONE! Don't believe me? Check out that Affordable Care Act!

Thank god. Yes check it out. http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/276366-insurers-warn-losses-from-obamacare-are-unsustainable

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 12:19:33 PM   
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Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 12:57:01 PM   
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Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

When you nationalize it, and the Public Health Service has no hospitals, the government controls the prices of all health. Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close. additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans. Opinion based upon the way the government already treats medical care.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 1:34:57 PM   
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Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close.


All hospitals are civilian except military hospitals. One would think you would know that.

additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans.

What issues do you have with the v.a.?

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 1:38:02 PM   
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Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

When you nationalize it, and the Public Health Service has no hospitals, the government controls the prices of all health. Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close. additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans. Opinion based upon the way the government already treats medical care.


All of them, they are owned by the insurance companies. the buildings and the doctors and the patients and the equipment and the medical care will be taken over by the HHS.


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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 1:49:28 PM   
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Note how the gobshites avoided me for my capacity scare the bejesus out of their soul like their partners, who have no idea they re here, as they seek a close up cunt shot to enslave with their meek minds

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 8:29:00 PM   
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Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close.


All hospitals are civilian except military hospitals. One would think you would know that.

additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans.

What issues do you have with the v.a.?

Actually the VA is not an agency of the DOD. They are seperated. I will agree that the missins are similar only in they both deal with vets. One for active duty and one for others.

I have a ton of issues with the VA. I believe they are there for the sole purpose of killing off our veterans. I have been waiting since 1987 just to see a doc. Went to one, when I was on active duty, because a soldier broke his arm and they couldn't even read the x-ray. I have several friends who have gone in for minor crap and come out with major, life threatening infections. Wait times are forever. I personally went once and sat in an exam room for 12 hrs before I just left and went to a civilian hosp. An orderly told me that all the docs had gone home and it was either go away or wait in the room until the next day. The list goes on.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/15/2016 8:30:49 PM   
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Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

When you nationalize it, and the Public Health Service has no hospitals, the government controls the prices of all health. Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close. additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans. Opinion based upon the way the government already treats medical care.


All of them, they are owned by the insurance companies. the buildings and the doctors and the patients and the equipment and the medical care will be taken over by the HHS.


Insurance companies don't own VA hospitals. If the PHS had any hospsitals any longer, they also wouldn't be privately owned.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/16/2016 4:51:00 AM   
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Note how the gobshites avoided me for my capacity scare the bejesus out of their soul like their partners, who have no idea they re here, as they seek a close up cunt shot to enslave with their meek minds



Interesting notion but are you sure it's not because you sound like you are drunk when you post and they figure it's not worth replying to?

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/16/2016 4:56:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

When you nationalize it, and the Public Health Service has no hospitals, the government controls the prices of all health. Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close. additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans. Opinion based upon the way the government already treats medical care.


All of them, they are owned by the insurance companies. the buildings and the doctors and the patients and the equipment and the medical care will be taken over by the HHS.


Insurance companies don't own VA hospitals. If the PHS had any hospsitals any longer, they also wouldn't be privately owned.



Uh, yeah? what does that have to do with what I said, seize them, and turn the whole infrastructure over to the HHS, and jail the insurance executives.

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RE: Fast & Furious is back - 4/16/2016 5:03:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KenDckey


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: KenDckey


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Works for me, lets grab them up and sell them out, go to national single payer.

When you nationalize it, and the Public Health Service has no hospitals, the government controls the prices of all health. Wonder how many civilian hospitals are going to close. additionally, seems like it would provide health service like the Va to the entire public (might even take the Va and put it under PHS) like the government treats its veterans. Opinion based upon the way the government already treats medical care.


All of them, they are owned by the insurance companies. the buildings and the doctors and the patients and the equipment and the medical care will be taken over by the HHS.


Insurance companies don't own VA hospitals. If the PHS had any hospsitals any longer, they also wouldn't be privately owned.


CMS already controls Medicare and Medicaid. If you go single payer, my guess is they will cover all. And all the folks who bitch and moan about the crazy hoops you have to jump through to get medical treatment and blame it on the insurance companies will find out where the bullshit really comes from. I just hope they are better at making sure everyone gets decent healthcare than the va currently does.


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