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mnottertail -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:10:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

my vocabulary is extremely broad, much of it from listening to and reading Wm. F. Buckley Jr (a libertarian, moreso than conservative in the end) and I keep in mind always that there is no good to come of casting pearls before swine.




Yeah right, on those rare occasions when your not talking trash mouth, your vocabulary comes from grabbing your Thesaurus and finding words to awkwardly fit into a sentence.

And if Buckley ever used the term "nutsuckers" he would have been referring to liberal democrats.




well and besides that muffin, one actually has to have pearls to cast---anyone seen evidence of that anywhere? anyone? anyone? buehler? buehler?

I wonder what its like to be so golden in ones own mind?

do I have that to look forward to if I keep my conversion going?


No, looking cretinous is all you have to look forward to. A good demonstration of nutsuckers felching each other in their airport bathroom mode though. Must be the 'alternative' view they hold.




thompsonx -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:11:31 PM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44

and im really hard pressed to know which one to vote for! the scandal ridden liar or a socialist who doesn't really understand economics. both are so near and dear to the democrat heart im having a hard time choosing.


Looks like barbara bush is going to vote for hillary[8|]




bounty44 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:11:34 PM)

im sorry---im only picking up on either brain damage, mental illness, or chemical influence.




thompsonx -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:13:56 PM)


ORIGINAL: bounty44

im sorry---im only picking up on either brain damage, mental illness, or chemical influence.


Why is it that anyone who disagres with you and your imaginary friend is brain damaged, mentally ill or under the influence of chemicals?
Have you been drinking gasoline and buttermilk again?




bounty44 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:14:27 PM)

hitler was a Christian!

and the crusades!




MrRodgers -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:16:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

my vocabulary is extremely broad, much of it from listening to and reading Wm. F. Buckley Jr (a libertarian, moreso than conservative in the end) and I keep in mind always that there is no good to come of casting pearls before swine.



Well Buckley lost me when he became a corporatist. While professing the dogma that the power to tax is the power to destroy, that to tax at all is axiomatically an economic disincentive, he favored the complete elimination of all federal and state corporate and capital gains tax which then places the almost the entire burden of tax revenue collection...on labor.

This not only then places the largest disincentive on labor but completely the reverse of our founders who believed similarly to Hamilton, that the country and the treasury could do just fine with a small tax on business and no tax on labor which Lincoln later very accurately described as the world's real wealth. "Without labor, you have no capital."




thompsonx -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:18:39 PM)


ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Well Buckley lost me when he became a corporatist. While professing the dogma that the power to tax is the power to destroy, that to tax at all is axiomatically an economic disincentive, he favored the complete elimination of all federal and state corporate and capital gains tax which then places the almost the entire burden of tax revenue collection...on labor.

This not only then places the largest disincentive on labor but completely the reverse of our founders who believed similarly to Hamilton, that the country and the treasury could do just fine with a small tax on business and no tax on labor which Lincoln later very accurately described as the world's real wealth. "Without labor, you have no capital."

So did marx.




mnottertail -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:20:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

my vocabulary is extremely broad, much of it from listening to and reading Wm. F. Buckley Jr (a libertarian, moreso than conservative in the end) and I keep in mind always that there is no good to come of casting pearls before swine.



Well Buckley lost me when he became a corporatist. While professing the dogma that the power to tax is the power to destroy, that to tax at all is axiomatically an economic disincentive, he favored the complete elimination of all federal and state corporate and capital gains tax which then places the almost the entire burden of tax revenue collection...on labor.

This not only then places the largest disincentive on labor but completely the reverse of our founders who believed similarly to Hamilton, that the country and the treasury could do just fine with a small tax on business and no tax on labor which Lincoln later very accurately described as the world's real wealth. "Without labor, you have no capital."



And the bulk of revenue from tariff, but those days are long gone since free-market communistc and nutsuckers have destroyed the country.

I never said I agreed with Buckley in every respect, either. To be fair.




DaddySatyr -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 3:53:44 PM)


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im not sure--I mean, if you were anything other than a white male it might be possible.

are you at least experiencing a lot of self loathing and white guilt for all the privilege you have enjoyed over the years? once youre there, will you promise to force the Washington redskins to change their name?



Actually, I'm ¼ Cherokee. So, I don't need guilt. I have righteous indignation going for me.

As far as that football team (I won't even type their name): even if I weren't ¼ Cherokee, I would be offended for the little red devils.

How'd I do?



Michael




bounty44 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:01:27 PM)

oh---so an equal opportunity and reparations appointment! that sounds like good liberal orthodoxy right?

not typing the team that shall not be named; that's good too! but I did notice "red devils" snuck in there, so you must be struggling with the conversion process too?

and we're getting so little help from the comrades on the boards!





BamaD -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:12:07 PM)

FR
and doesn't the acceptance of gay marraige mean that we have to allow polegamy? Think about it, if a person marries, and then falls in love with another person isn't it descrimitory to prevent that marriage just because they are already married? Particularly if the first spouse also wants to marry the third person?




bounty44 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:16:20 PM)

nutsucking discriminatory anti-polygamists forcing their religion on us!





Greta75 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:30:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
I just read that two of Trumps kids failed to register in time to vote as republicans in New York.

This is very funny!!

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It occurred to me, an avowed atheist, that should Trump lose New York by one, not only would I acknowledge God, I would know Him to have the best sense of humor in the cosmos. Hell.. I'd be so convinced, I would probably join a convent.

Haha, I don't take for granted that Trump would just get NY just like that, but clearly you are convinced, it's an easy win for him, for you to consider joining a convent if he doesn't haha!






mnottertail -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:33:43 PM)


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nutsucking discriminatory anti-polygamists forcing their religion on us!





Pretty much thats the nutsuckers in a nutshell, taking away our rights while foaming at the mouth telling us how others are taking them away and miring us in debt, now 19 Trillion and rising, selling us out to the third world.




Greta75 -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 4:34:49 PM)

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...in survival of the fittest...


the fun thing with that phrase greta, and though im hesitant to turn the thread into serious conversation, is that on the whole liberals are godless atheists who subscribe to a naturalistic/evolutionary worldview...but then quite ironically go on to condemn actions that logically flow from the principles of natural selection.


Yea, that is true. I am a godless atheist and I believe in natural selection. Although the only exception is, for the sake of a future world with less crimes, it's important to help the needy children grow up healthy and well and properly educated. I always believe in fixing the root of the problem first. Rather than try to reform criminals later. If they fuck up, they pay.




PeonForHer -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 5:21:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Yes absolutely, name calling and insults are an important political tool if you're a liberal democrat. Start out with Nutsucker and toilet licker. Then you could try Jesus you're phouqing stupid and then maybe some Dirty Harry stuff like punkassmotherfucker. That one will make everyone think you're a real internet bad ass. After that, assuming you're intellectually inclined and you have at least half a brain, you could step it up out of the gutter and into stuff you can say on TV.

On the whole I have to agree with this, which is really disappointing to me

Stick around a while longer, and you'll understand why. Trust me on this.




MrRodgers -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 5:21:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
Well Buckley lost me when he became a corporatist. While professing the dogma that the power to tax is the power to destroy, that to tax at all is axiomatically an economic disincentive, he favored the complete elimination of all federal and state corporate and capital gains tax which then places the almost the entire burden of tax revenue collection...on labor.

This not only then places the largest disincentive on labor but completely the reverse of our founders who believed similarly to Hamilton, that the country and the treasury could do just fine with a small tax on business and no tax on labor which Lincoln later very accurately described as the world's real wealth. "Without labor, you have no capital."

So did marx.


What, Marx became a corporatist ? Hardly. Mid and late 19th century, for Marx, the industrial corp. produced a 'surplus' of capital (price minus labor, tools and material) called profits, the owners of which (Bd. of Dir.) would distribute to themselves and investors. This resulted in the concentration of wealth and a tendency toward monopolization.

Lenin came along and noticed, that had happened and was a verification of Marxist theories. He saw the tendency toward monopoly had developed to the point of imperialist, or international capital domination, with finance capital playing the primary role of centralizer.

Or, are you saying that Marx agreed with Lincoln and also believed and correctly so, that the only real wealth...was labor ? Thus without labor...you have no capital. The ensuing creation of currency (monetary system) as a means of that exchange in wealth, has come to dominate economics and policy and whose underlying value of which is now both labor and the supply of the capital, now subject to the whims of central bankers.




MrRodgers -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 5:36:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

my vocabulary is extremely broad, much of it from listening to and reading Wm. F. Buckley Jr (a libertarian, moreso than conservative in the end) and I keep in mind always that there is no good to come of casting pearls before swine.



Well Buckley lost me when he became a corporatist. While professing the dogma that the power to tax is the power to destroy, that to tax at all is axiomatically an economic disincentive, he favored the complete elimination of all federal and state corporate and capital gains tax which then places the almost the entire burden of tax revenue collection...on labor.

This not only then places the largest disincentive on labor but completely the reverse of our founders who believed similarly to Hamilton, that the country and the treasury could do just fine with a small tax on business and no tax on labor which Lincoln later very accurately described as the world's real wealth. "Without labor, you have no capital."



And the bulk of revenue from tariff, but those days are long gone since free-market communistc and nutsuckers have destroyed the country.

I never said I agreed with Buckley in every respect, either. To be fair.


I think I understand where you are coming from using the expression 'free market communists' but suggest that it's not quite accurate. The basis of the inaccuracy is founded primarily in the fact that there are actually extremely few free markets in the world today, in fact...almost none. Also on the fact that the last thing a capitalists wants is anything even like or similar to...a free market. [He] wants 'his' market tending toward the much preferred...monopoly market.

I am thinking the proper expression is 'fascist capitalist' which is the capitalist wet-dream if you will of using govt. sanction of and in the interests of the corp. for domination through consolidations, tending toward monopoly and the market power of greater profits plus with [it] being granted political power of being 'like a person' and all of their accumulated capital acting as now protected accumulated free speech. This resulting over time in the corp. domination of virtually all govt. power over the economy, war and trade.

No, no thinking person could agree with Buckley in every respect.




thompsonx -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/11/2016 5:41:27 PM)


ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Actually, I'm ¼ Cherokee. So, I don't need guilt. I have righteous indignation going for me.

Do you get a welfare cheque for claiming status as a native amerikan?




DaddySatyr -> RE: repenting of our ways (4/12/2016 12:15:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

oh---so an equal opportunity and reparations appointment! that sounds like good liberal orthodoxy right?



Right on!

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

not typing the team that shall not be named; that's good too! but I did notice "red devils" snuck in there, so you must be struggling with the conversion process too?

and we're getting so little help from the comrades on the boards!



Oh, deary-dear! I may be more far along in my conversion than you are. No, I was asserting my minority privilege; like when black people can use any word they want to, when talking about themselves (or you white devils).

You see, I can say "injun" (because I am one), but if you do it, it's off to politically correct "Siberia" (No demonstrations. Back of the line at Unemployment and Welfare) for you (Oh! You would also be barred from my casino)!



Michael




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