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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:11:47 AM   
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So at the end of the day, you shrill company bashing leftists can try, like socialists always do, to confiscate other peoples money. But at some point people say - I'm not willing to work to create money for *you*.

It is a legalistic fiction that corporations are people.



And thats an uninteresting distinction. When I buy a share - and I am a real person - I have an expectation of a return, either by a dividend, or a capital appreciation.

When the government ups the tax rates - it diminishes my return. You take *from* the investors - people spending their own money- and give it to the government.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:13:40 AM   
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Proverb
give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime

Wrong:
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man how to fish and he will spend the rest of his life in a rowboat with a sixpack.


Better than starving!!


Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:17:06 AM   
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It is a legalistic fiction that corporations are people.
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And thats an uninteresting distinction. When I buy a share - and I am a real person - I have an expectation of a return, either by a dividend, or a capital appreciation.





No, it's not. The assignment of person-hood to corporations grants them rights which should be exclusively reserved for corporeal entities. Namely, the right to free speech.

Corporations evade the laws which would keep you and I in check because they simply do not exist. They can be dissolved and their assets reconstituted to avoid any outcomes of their malfeasance. They are simply not subject to ordinary law and as a consequence, the US has suffered under the corporate yoke.

Capitalism is fine. Corporatism is not. Corporate law needs to be rewritten to revoke person-hood status and bring them to heel. Corporations undermine the fabric of our democratic institutions and need to be brought into line before they destroy the country.

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When the government ups the tax rates - it diminishes my return. You take *from* the investors - people spending their own money- and give it to the government.
Corporate taxes are the rents which are due in return for access to the infrastructure which makes their profit possible. If a corporation isn't profitable without skimping on those rents, it has no justification for its survival and should die.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:17:11 AM   
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Just sucking up the dollars

We need smaller government. Let the market decide. Why should we support these leeches?

Your thoughts?
Welfare queens are a fake piece of outrage which Republican politicians regularly trot out to distract the easily led complete FUCKWITS that their constituency is composed of.

You know who's really sucking up the tax dollars? Massive corporations who are either on government welfare or not paying their fucking taxes. The amount of money they suck out of the American taxpayer is millions - if not billions - of times more than these supposed "welfare queens" would ever manage to get.

Let's face it. You just want to feel morally superior to someone and this gives you a convenient excuse to do so. Republican voters are so often incredibly depressingly stupid.



You are flat out wrong, on virtually everything in your post.

Corporate welfare costs the US government roughly 267 billion. And in fact, the top 5 companies get $77 billion dollars in tax breaks.

And while that crap is BS - it pales in comparison to the 2.4 trillion dollars in entitlement spending. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/fed_entitlement_spending_chart_09_014.html



Entitlement spending, such things as social security, and medicare is paid for by taxes. It ain't free. You can remove about 3/4 of that number right there.




Actually, in point of fact, the average social security recipient receives $6 in payouts for every dollar paid in. Google it.

The fact that taxes pay for it doesn't make it any less an entitlement spending, any more than corporations paying corporate taxes make corporate welfare any less corporate welfare.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:28:37 AM   
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It is a legalistic fiction that corporations are people.


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And thats an uninteresting distinction. When I buy a share - and I am a real person - I have an expectation of a return, either by a dividend, or a capital appreciation.

When the government ups the tax rates - it diminishes my return. You take *from* the investors - people spending their own money- and give it to the government.

No, it's not. The assignment of person-hood to corporations grants them rights which should be exclusively reserved for corporeal entities. Namely, the right to free speech.

Corporations evade the laws which would keep you and I in check because they simply do not exist. They can be dissolved and their assets reconstituted to avoid any outcomes of their malfeasance. They are simply not subject to ordinary law and as a consequence, the US has suffered under the corporate yoke.

Capitalism is fine. Corporatism is not. Corporate law needs to be rewritten to revoke person-hood status and bring them to heel. Corporations undermine the fabric of our democratic institutions and need to be brought into line before they destroy the country.



Again, flat out wrong.

Not about some corporations being bad actors. OF course some are, just like a great deal of unions are bad actors, black lives matter activists are bad actors, whatever.

Corporations are not people, so they are not subject to ordinary law. True. Irrelevent but true. But the people running those corporations ARE liable for the actions of those companies.

The fact that democrats have sent only one wall street banker to jail isn't becuase of a defect in US law. The previous Savings and loan scandal sent 1744 bankers to jail.

The defect is in the political will of the democratic party to prosecute democrat donors. Its in the failure of both parties to utilize the antitrust legislation.

Your entire screed that corporations undermine our way of life - well corporations have been with us for 400+ years - and in fact the original mayflower was funded by a company.

So one has to ask - at what specific point do you think corporations undermined our fabric - as opposed to just being part of it. Because, generally speaking, corporations are a huge net positive.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:35:04 AM   
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It is a legalistic fiction that corporations are people.
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And thats an uninteresting distinction. When I buy a share - and I am a real person - I have an expectation of a return, either by a dividend, or a capital appreciation.





No, it's not. The assignment of person-hood to corporations grants them rights which should be exclusively reserved for corporeal entities. Namely, the right to free speech.

Corporations evade the laws which would keep you and I in check because they simply do not exist. They can be dissolved and their assets reconstituted to avoid any outcomes of their malfeasance. They are simply not subject to ordinary law and as a consequence, the US has suffered under the corporate yoke.

Capitalism is fine. Corporatism is not. Corporate law needs to be rewritten to revoke person-hood status and bring them to heel. Corporations undermine the fabric of our democratic institutions and need to be brought into line before they destroy the country.

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When the government ups the tax rates - it diminishes my return. You take *from* the investors - people spending their own money- and give it to the government.
Corporate taxes are the rents which are due in return for access to the infrastructure which makes their profit possible. If a corporation isn't profitable without skimping on those rents, it has no justification for its survival and should die.


The vast majority of corporate taxes don't go to anything anywhere near what you could possibly justify as "rent". Taxes are a tyranny of the majority extorting money.

Mind you, I'm in favor of taxes. What I'm opposed to is the ridiculous idea that my money is better spent by government. There are precious few results where it can be demonstrated that government performs better than private industry. In those areas, government should prevail. In areas they don't - go the hell away.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:38:00 AM   
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While I'm in the checkout line of my local supermarket saying my prayer ("oh dear Lord. let me not embarrass myself by not having enough on my debit card to pay for this bounty, amen"), a typical WQ is dragging 2 full shopping carts and a tribe of "stairsteps" (age range 1 year to 9 years) behind her. She pushes her neatly done weave from her face and frantically digs into her designer handbag in search of her EBT Benefits card to once again feed the family (and some welfare pimp about 20 years old and possibly the daddy of maybe one or two of the kids). Her plentiful bounty comes to her once a month courtesy of the tax payers, the limits of her choices on the EBT Grocery Plan (mostly genetically modified, non nutritional food choices) and the hard work she invested by her career choice of being a mom for as long as her body holds out.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:38:52 AM   
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What, then, is the solution? Do we stop giving aid and stop harming local ag production? Or, do we do the opposite and give more food aid and harm local ag production?
Isn't that sorta like biting the hand that feeds you?

Nope. Quite the opposite.
Proverb
give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
It is more worthwhile to teach someone to do something than to do it for them.
So the solution is simple: Teach them how to be more productive and provide the means to do so, don't just throw food at them sporadically.
Don't just dig a well and walk away, teach them how to dig one and give them the tools to do the job.
This is where donor countries fall flat on their faces.


They're bitching that it's not enough and that it's sometimes late, and, yet, that it's hurting local ag. You can't have it both ways.

How many people will suffer and/or die while local ag production incorporates the methods of improving productivity?

I'm all for US Aid (not going to speak towards aid given from other countries) being tied to works rather than just "stuff." It's far less likely to be siphoned off by a corrupt leadership that way.


There's the disconnect Desi.
The US (and the UK and many other donor countries) just dump the food.
If it's too late, extra people have died waiting.
Don't make a promise then don't deliver on time. That's their gripe.

Only a tiny handful of charities in very tiny locactions actually provide the teaching and the tools.
Most donor countries just promise food aid and it's often too little too late - and people die as a result.

It needs to go hand-in-hand - food aid for the short term and the teaching/tools for the longer term.
This is what isn't happening.
This is where our glorious smug leaders say they are 'doing their bit' in foreign aid.


And yes, I agree with the inherent corruption of many of these countries that are screaming for foreign aid.
If it wasn't for the simple fact that innocent people are the victims, I'd say fuck the aid until you root out the corruption starting at the top of the tree.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 11:52:16 AM   
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Just sucking up the dollars

We need smaller government. Let the market decide. Why should we support these leeches?

Your thoughts?
Welfare queens are a fake piece of outrage which Republican politicians regularly trot out to distract the easily led complete FUCKWITS that their constituency is composed of.

You know who's really sucking up the tax dollars? Massive corporations who are either on government welfare or not paying their fucking taxes. The amount of money they suck out of the American taxpayer is millions - if not billions - of times more than these supposed "welfare queens" would ever manage to get.

Let's face it. You just want to feel morally superior to someone and this gives you a convenient excuse to do so. Republican voters are so often incredibly depressingly stupid.



You are flat out wrong, on virtually everything in your post.

Corporate welfare costs the US government roughly 267 billion. And in fact, the top 5 companies get $77 billion dollars in tax breaks.

And while that crap is BS - it pales in comparison to the 2.4 trillion dollars in entitlement spending. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/fed_entitlement_spending_chart_09_014.html



Entitlement spending, such things as social security, and medicare is paid for by taxes. It ain't free. You can remove about 3/4 of that number right there.




Actually, in point of fact, the average social security recipient receives $6 in payouts for every dollar paid in. Google it.

The fact that taxes pay for it doesn't make it any less an entitlement spending, any more than corporations paying corporate taxes make corporate welfare any less corporate welfare.



Uh, yeah, nice try buddy. I put in money, lets say 50 bucks a week, it was quite a bit more. some 45 years later I pull it out. rule of sevens on that?

Dont fuck around here you are demonstrably a cretin in economics. I aint the fucking red cross and I aint a free market communist, I dont loan money to nobody for 45 years for free.

It aint magic.




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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 12:48:05 PM   
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Just sucking up the dollars

We need smaller government. Let the market decide. Why should we support these leeches?

Your thoughts?
Welfare queens are a fake piece of outrage which Republican politicians regularly trot out to distract the easily led complete FUCKWITS that their constituency is composed of.

You know who's really sucking up the tax dollars? Massive corporations who are either on government welfare or not paying their fucking taxes. The amount of money they suck out of the American taxpayer is millions - if not billions - of times more than these supposed "welfare queens" would ever manage to get.

Let's face it. You just want to feel morally superior to someone and this gives you a convenient excuse to do so. Republican voters are so often incredibly depressingly stupid.



You are flat out wrong, on virtually everything in your post.

Corporate welfare costs the US government roughly 267 billion. And in fact, the top 5 companies get $77 billion dollars in tax breaks.

And while that crap is BS - it pales in comparison to the 2.4 trillion dollars in entitlement spending. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/fed_entitlement_spending_chart_09_014.html



Entitlement spending, such things as social security, and medicare is paid for by taxes. It ain't free. You can remove about 3/4 of that number right there.




Actually, in point of fact, the average social security recipient receives $6 in payouts for every dollar paid in. Google it.

The fact that taxes pay for it doesn't make it any less an entitlement spending, any more than corporations paying corporate taxes make corporate welfare any less corporate welfare.



Uh, yeah, nice try buddy. I put in money, lets say 50 bucks a week, it was quite a bit more. some 45 years later I pull it out. rule of sevens on that?

Dont fuck around here you are demonstrably a cretin in economics. I aint the fucking red cross and I aint a free market communist, I dont loan money to nobody for 45 years for free.

It aint magic.





All well and good. But it is demonstrable fact that social security payouts exceed your inputs plus the returns earned by social security. Not by a little, but by a shitload. Because the fact of the matter is that social security doesn't return by the 7's - its more like returns by the 15's, as their principle "asset" is us savings bonds - paying what .. 3.3%?

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 1:04:40 PM   
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no such fact has been demonstrated. Right now there sits nearly 3 trillion dollars double borrowed against social security for Ws fuck ups, and nutsucker pork and corporate welfare.

http://www.multpl.com/10-year-treasury-rate/table/by-year

just a smattering, but not rule of 15 the yields are down now, but i've had personally a bunch of my money sitting in there since 1982 at 14+ percent Lets see............a nutsucker president there, St. Wrinklemeat, that boy borrowed buchu bucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ard0RnuOI

As I have stated, stay out of economic discussions, you are a demonstrable naif.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 2:22:42 PM   
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no such fact has been demonstrated. Right now there sits nearly 3 trillion dollars double borrowed against social security for Ws fuck ups, and nutsucker pork and corporate welfare.

http://www.multpl.com/10-year-treasury-rate/table/by-year

just a smattering, but not rule of 15 the yields are down now, but i've had personally a bunch of my money sitting in there since 1982 at 14+ percent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_ard0RnuOI





Mnotter, you are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Social security is funded through special issues which can be redeemed at any time, and the government has been issuing new debt to retire old debt. So the idea that social security is sittingon a bunch of treasuries paying 14% is just false.

The fact is that Social security is in fact earning 3.37% on its assets. Which is pretty close to 15. The fact is that there has not been a year in the last 20 years that the average SS recipient did not receive more in benefits the interest indexed contributions. https://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/fundFAQ.html#&a0=7

If the contributions + interest matched pensions - you wouldn't have the SS trust going bankrupt.

As for borrowed for w's fuckups - they are no different from clintons, or obamas. And in fact, if you add all of W's borrowing against Obama's - its about 1/3.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 3:10:17 PM   
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You are entitled to lie all you want, but you will be made to look a cretin.

Prior to Big Bush and the nutsuckers robbing social security all issues were public.

That means for 10 years I got that 14% issue.

Combined OASI and DI holdings say that we have only done that 3% for 1 year, and I am not going to bother to check your math on the 15 year doubling, knowing that you are absolutely innumerate as well as mendacious, and say it is closer to 20+ years at that figure.

Any way, we have only gotten that low for one year, history is different.
https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/investseries.cgi

And based upon your absolutely pervasive mendacity as well as untutored demonstrations repeatedly and continuously in these matters, the trust me portion of your extravagant claim that for 20 years everyone has exceeded their pile would have to be credibly cited, you lost any 'trust mes' with the very first post on this site.

Let me give you a model that works, sure, we got some 3% but we got some 14% and we got some 9% and we got some 5%, think of it like a grocery store full of product and everything with a different margin, then if we have the ambition, we can calculate the actual input and time value of money thru all the iterations and percentages.

OK, awaiting the credible citation, and dawg, I really am pulling for you here, I want to see you get one right, just one.

But the prospects of that are approaching zero.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 3:49:31 PM   
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Sorry to disrupt the exchange of insults but I've been curious about something for a while now and figured I might as well try asking.

Ron, for someone so into blowjobs and all, I would think the term "nutsucker" would be more of a positive one for you. Yet, every time I've seen you use it, it's been in a negative context. Do you not like having your nuts sucked? Is that why you use it as a degrading kind of term? Because if you enjoy having yours sucked...why would you use this term so disparagingly? In case you have any doubts, I'm being entirely sincere here.

*curious minds gotta know*

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 3:55:53 PM   
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Sorry to disrupt the exchange of insults but I've been curious about something for a while now and figured I might as well try asking.

Ron, for someone so into blowjobs and all, I would think the term "nutsucker" would be more of a positive one for you. Yet, every time I've seen you use it, it's been in a negative context. Do you not like having your nuts sucked? Is that why you use it as a degrading kind of term? Because if you enjoy having yours sucked...why would you use this term so disparagingly? In case you have any doubts, I'm being entirely sincere here.

*curious minds gotta know*

Interesting, because just a few minutes ago, I was contemplating asking "Who exactly are the nutsuckers? Are they one particular political party? Or is it just someone illogical?"

But, I was afraid that he would think I was stirring the pot rather than being genuinely curious.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 3:57:17 PM   
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What, then, is the solution? Do we stop giving aid and stop harming local ag production? Or, do we do the opposite and give more food aid and harm local ag production?
Isn't that sorta like biting the hand that feeds you?

Nope. Quite the opposite.
Proverb
give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
It is more worthwhile to teach someone to do something than to do it for them.
So the solution is simple: Teach them how to be more productive and provide the means to do so, don't just throw food at them sporadically.
Don't just dig a well and walk away, teach them how to dig one and give them the tools to do the job.
This is where donor countries fall flat on their faces.

They're bitching that it's not enough and that it's sometimes late, and, yet, that it's hurting local ag. You can't have it both ways.
How many people will suffer and/or die while local ag production incorporates the methods of improving productivity?
I'm all for US Aid (not going to speak towards aid given from other countries) being tied to works rather than just "stuff." It's far less likely to be siphoned off by a corrupt leadership that way.

There's the disconnect Desi.
The US (and the UK and many other donor countries) just dump the food.
If it's too late, extra people have died waiting.
Don't make a promise then don't deliver on time. That's their gripe.


What's the adage about beggars and choosers?

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Only a tiny handful of charities in very tiny locactions actually provide the teaching and the tools.
Most donor countries just promise food aid and it's often too little too late - and people die as a result.
It needs to go hand-in-hand - food aid for the short term and the teaching/tools for the longer term.
This is what isn't happening.
This is where our glorious smug leaders say they are 'doing their bit' in foreign aid.


A big part of US food aid is done (as someone on here stated, my apologies for not remembering who) to clear excess production inventories the government "bought" to maintain prices for Big Ag. All that food would go to waste if it wasn't doled out in aid. Sad, but true.

It doesn't behoove the US government to help impoverished countries improve their ag productivity. But, doling out the aid like it's done doesn't help impoverished countries improve their ag productivity. But, why is it the responsibility of the US Government to teach people in impoverished nations how to be better at producing their own food? Shouldn't that be the responsibility of their own governments (if it's the responsibility of any government at all)?

But, this is what government does (at least the US government at most levels): they hand out fish and don't bother to teach someone how to fish. There may be offers of free counseling, coaching, etc. if the recipient wants, but there is little in the way of requirements. The majority of people receiving welfare, I'd bet are incapable of providing for themselves, or are only there on a temporary basis during a current hard time. There are enough abusers of the system, though, that there needs to be some sort of overhaul.

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And yes, I agree with the inherent corruption of many of these countries that are screaming for foreign aid.
If it wasn't for the simple fact that innocent people are the victims, I'd say fuck the aid until you root out the corruption starting at the top of the tree.


There has to be a line in the sand at some point. Perhaps get the UN in on it, and proving a regime is mistreating it's people would be cause for the blue hats to go in and knock heads. At some point in time, we have to realize and understand that the welfare of the peoples of the impoverished nation of (insert nation here) aren't the responsibility of any other government.

Take government out of the equation, and let charity take over. In the short term, there will be a terrible loss of life as charitable giving ramps up, but it will catch up. Plus, there will be "missionary" groups that will go and help those people learn more effective strategies.


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 4:08:58 PM   
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Sorry to disrupt the exchange of insults but I've been curious about something for a while now and figured I might as well try asking.

Ron, for someone so into blowjobs and all, I would think the term "nutsucker" would be more of a positive one for you. Yet, every time I've seen you use it, it's been in a negative context. Do you not like having your nuts sucked? Is that why you use it as a degrading kind of term? Because if you enjoy having yours sucked...why would you use this term so disparagingly? In case you have any doubts, I'm being entirely sincere here.

*curious minds gotta know*

Interesting, because just a few minutes ago, I was contemplating asking "Who exactly are the nutsuckers? Are they one particular political party? Or is it just someone illogical?"

But, I was afraid that he would think I was stirring the pot rather than being genuinely curious.



Where are your peoples brains at, shame on you. From the urban dictionary:

Nut Sucker
One who likes to suck the salt off the nut shell before eating the nut is a Nut Sucker.

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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 4:59:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Sorry to disrupt the exchange of insults but I've been curious about something for a while now and figured I might as well try asking.

Ron, for someone so into blowjobs and all, I would think the term "nutsucker" would be more of a positive one for you. Yet, every time I've seen you use it, it's been in a negative context. Do you not like having your nuts sucked? Is that why you use it as a degrading kind of term? Because if you enjoy having yours sucked...why would you use this term so disparagingly? In case you have any doubts, I'm being entirely sincere here.

*curious minds gotta know*

Interesting, because just a few minutes ago, I was contemplating asking "Who exactly are the nutsuckers? Are they one particular political party? Or is it just someone illogical?"

But, I was afraid that he would think I was stirring the pot rather than being genuinely curious.



Where are your peoples brains at, shame on you. From the urban dictionary:

Nut Sucker
One who likes to suck the salt off the nut shell before eating the nut is a Nut Sucker.


Nut shell? Is that what they're calling it these days? I'm so behind the times.

Besides, I think you've spent far too much time in the P&R section if you're questioning where my brain is at. ;)

It's in the gutter. Where it's always been.

No wonder you don't get enough blow jobs. Sheesh!! :P


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 5:01:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Sorry to disrupt the exchange of insults but I've been curious about something for a while now and figured I might as well try asking.

Ron, for someone so into blowjobs and all, I would think the term "nutsucker" would be more of a positive one for you. Yet, every time I've seen you use it, it's been in a negative context. Do you not like having your nuts sucked? Is that why you use it as a degrading kind of term? Because if you enjoy having yours sucked...why would you use this term so disparagingly? In case you have any doubts, I'm being entirely sincere here.

*curious minds gotta know*

Interesting, because just a few minutes ago, I was contemplating asking "Who exactly are the nutsuckers? Are they one particular political party? Or is it just someone illogical?"

But, I was afraid that he would think I was stirring the pot rather than being genuinely curious.


I am heartened to find I am not the only curious minded one here. :)


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RE: Damn Welfare Queens! - 4/14/2016 5:08:07 PM   
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It is a legalistic fiction that corporations are people.
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And thats an uninteresting distinction. When I buy a share - and I am a real person - I have an expectation of a return, either by a dividend, or a capital appreciation.





No, it's not. The assignment of person-hood to corporations grants them rights which should be exclusively reserved for corporeal entities. Namely, the right to free speech.

Corporations evade the laws which would keep you and I in check because they simply do not exist. They can be dissolved and their assets reconstituted to avoid any outcomes of their malfeasance. They are simply not subject to ordinary law and as a consequence, the US has suffered under the corporate yoke.

Capitalism is fine. Corporatism is not. Corporate law needs to be rewritten to revoke person-hood status and bring them to heel. Corporations undermine the fabric of our democratic institutions and need to be brought into line before they destroy the country.

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When the government ups the tax rates - it diminishes my return. You take *from* the investors - people spending their own money- and give it to the government.
Corporate taxes are the rents which are due in return for access to the infrastructure which makes their profit possible. If a corporation isn't profitable without skimping on those rents, it has no justification for its survival and should die.

First, Elisabeth Warren is an idiot and people do build their own companies. Try putting up a building and starting a company. You will pay for your use of the infrastructure. So, that whole rent idea doesn't understand how business work.

Second, corporations don't pay tax. That is a cost of business passed through to the consumer. You can talk tax corporations all you want, but all you're doing is setting up a hidden tax on labor.

Third, stipulate why you believe corporations don't have rights. Corporations having the right to speak holds no onus to anyone until a politician takes advantage of it. So why are you placing all the blame on corporations and letting government off the hook?

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