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Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 12:44:47 PM   
IndigoDadesi


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Status: offline 		While my partner and I have both explored pretty much every orifice of each others bodies I have to say Im kind of a stickler when it comes to cleanliness. Especially since my partner is a welder. I get really turned off if Im not sure that he is completely clean (or at least the the area of his body that Im in contact with is completely clean). Ill refuse to let his hands near my naughty bits if his nails arent short and clean and his hands scrubbed. More than once I have asked him to shower because he tasted like sweat. Ive even asked him to brush his teeth before he goes down on me. When it comes to myself, I dont like anal contact unless Ive showered since the last time I, um, went no.2.

Now, before you all go off saying Im obsessive compulsive or that I have serious hygiene issues. I do have to restate that he is a welder, anyone else who lives with or is a trades-person knows how dirty you can get on the job. His hands and arms up to his elbows are usually filthy and he sweats all day long in his carharts.

Anyway, we've found alot of ways around the cleanliness issue. He always showers first thing when he gets home from work and we have a probing shower head for those tucked away bits. He also scrubs his hands everyday with a brush and sometimes uses a pumus stone for his callouses. When doing anything anal we use condoms and gloves to help keep things clean, especially the toys since they are often used vaginally as well.

I guess Im just wondering if anyone else thinks the same way I do about sexual cleanliness and what techniques you use to keep things clean.

Also, recently I have considered trying rimming on him. I was thinking about getting some chocolate sauce maybe. Im just trying to figure out what to use as a barrier. Ive considered dental dam or a make shift one out of a condom, but I would prefer something bigger so I can get more range of sensations going without worrying about bacteria and hairs. I was thinking saran wrap, but Im not sure if it will protect against bacteria.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 12:59:57 PM   
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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:03:12 PM   
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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:07:46 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		While I'm not as much of a stickler about it as you are, there is a level to which sweat and dirt goes from yummy to yucky.  I don't make a big deal out of it, I just let them know that we need to do a clean off in the shower before we do anything else.

More than anything, it's the smells that get to me.  So even cleaning isn't necessarily the answer because if a person uses a very strong soap, aftershave, lotion, toothpaste or anything- it will make me nauseous.  So while I love taking showers with my partners, they know I prefer using my own products on them and we wait awhile after they've done their toilette before getting into deep kissing and such.

This occurs with food and drink as well- any alcohol taste turns me off, or other strong food smells.

As long as your needs for cleanliness aren't interfering generally with your happiness or your partner's happiness, then I wouldn't be too concerned.  We all fall somewhere along the smell/clean spectrum and some people have to be the "oddballs."  Just find another oddball who works with you.

As far as protection from rimming, I'd say other than perhaps washing the outside and first part of the inside with a warm washcloth, there's really not much to do that won't pretty much ruin the sensation (the whole point of doing it).  Some people use dental dams and plastic wrap, but I find it pointless and just to use anal sex toys at that point.  It's simply a part of the body intended to stay warm, moist, and hairy.  You might even ask if he could shave the area for it as an extra sensation treat- but really, this might be something you just have to say is incompatible with your clean needs.

< Message edited by LuckyAlbatross -- 7/20/2006 1:10:31 PM >

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:28:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im not as picky as you. My Dominant is a longshoreman and he comes home sometimes smelling of diesel, now that isn't pleasant sometimes. I wash him in the shower. Other times he is not as greasy and he taste yummy when he comes home from work (it depends on his task for the day, whether he operated tonka toys or tagged containers all day). He showers a couple times a day because he is a neat and clean person, but sometimes the smell of his sweat is kinda hot and steamy for me...Ha Ha. That is probably because it is fresh sweat, and not stale stinky sweat.

About the other thing, he hasn't requested this service from me yet, and I think a shower before hand with extra scrubbing and washing of the anus is all that I would need to feel "clean" enough. After all, being a germa-phobe in other parts of my life (public restrooms, shopping carts, movie theater seats), I realize I am probably in contact with nastier things than a freshly cleaned rear end on a daily basis. Ecoli is on many door handles and in other public places, and this is why we should wash our hands often. But what is the diff between going out to eat in a restaurant and eating appetizers with your hands after visiting the restroom even though you washed your hands? Others that visited the toilet didn't and you are handling the same things they did. His hiney is probably safer...

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:43:07 PM   
Noah


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"EWww. Go wash (and scrub and scrape and disinfect) because

you taste just like ... you!"

There. That's better. Now you taste the residue of some chemical cocktail cooked up in a New Jersey factory by Proctor and Gamble.



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ORIGINAL: IndigoDadesi

Ive even asked him to brush his teeth before he goes down on me.


Is this because he's a welder too?

If it was up in the air whether you have other-than-ordinary "issues" with cleanliness, I think you've provided an answer to that question.

God knows there are worse kinds of issues to have. I wouldn't condemn anyone for being the kind of freak you are. But, yeah: you are a freak.

quote:


Any suggestions?


Yeah, rock on with your bad self and be grateful you've found someone who is into the kind of humiliation play you're busy with, or who cares about you enough to put up with your issue, or who has the same issue himself somehow, or who frankly doesn't give a shit. If it's working it's working.

If you're looking for alternatives, consider an inflatable boyfriend. You could get that chemical smell and taste without all the fuss. Plus I hear they're really into objectification play.

More seriously, I'm curious. If it is working fine for both of you, what was it that troubled you enough to come here looking for input--and maybe even validation?



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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:47:51 PM   
mp072004


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Status: offline 		You're a bit of a clean freak, but it doesn't seem to be hurting you, so you shouldn't worry about it. Saran wrap works, yes. A dental dam should be big enough for rimming. Don't try ripping up a condom--it tends to go badly, and the coverage isn't very good. However, any barrier will reduce sensation and effectiveness in analingus. Try it, and see whether your partner can feel anything.

If your partner doesn't already insert a soapy finger into his anus when washing, he might do that. It doesn't hurt unless the area is already irritated, so just don't penetrate him anally the day before you want to do analingus. Like the wise albatross said, if your partner doesn't already shave the hair around the anus, shaving might reduce your perception of ickyness.

If smell is a big deal, take some perfumed oil or essential oil and rub it under your nose and around your nostrils. Even a really thorough wash won't get rid of all the odor.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 1:58:40 PM   
IndigoDadesi


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Status: offline 		Noah:

Well first off I dont think I did ever say that it was working. I DID say we have found ways around it though. I also dont want him to taste like a chemical factory, I just dont want him to taste like stale sweat or like welding rod. I also dont want to get a vaginal infection or get a throat infection from e-coli. Is that so much to ask?

Ive asked him to brush his teeth a few times if I know he hasnt done it in say...a few days...which I know is gross by more than just my standards.

Maybe Im posting partly for validation (but thats kind of what this whole forum is about, to relate your own interests and quirks with other peoples, is it not?) and partly because I think my partner would really enjoy rimming and I am looking for suggestions that would allow me to do that while feeling comfortable with it at the same time.

If thats not down and dirty enough for you, I dont really care because its my partner's ass Im going to be licking, not yours.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 2:22:59 PM   
IndigoDadesi


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Status: offline 		L.A.: Thanks for the tips. I already plan to have him clean himself extra when he takes his shower, like I said in my OP, we have a fun shower head for just that. I also like the wash cloth idea. I dont know about shaving though. He's hairy all over anyway, but he does shave his frontal nether regions already, so it wouldnt be too much of a stretch I guess. This may turn out to be one of the things I just cant get into, but I would hate to not try it at least once. Thanks though, you always have good advice.

juliaoceania: Im glad you have...uh, tasted for yourself what I mean. Stale sweat is just not sexy...at least not to me. Your Dominant comes home smelling like diesel, my boy comes home smelling like welding rod, again, just not sexy. I like how you put it into perspective: public toilet vs. clean hiney.

mp: If you think a dental dam is big enough, maybe I should look into that again. I was more thinking plastic wrap because I already have it. I do realize that it will reduce the sensation. I already know my boy is super sensitive back there, so well see how things go. I also have a tongue ring that might add an interesting feeling to the whole thing. I guess we'll see. Im pretty big on taste and smell so thanks for the tip about the perfume too.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 2:37:23 PM   
EvilGeoff


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I'm sorry... I can't help it...  But when I see your nick I keep hearing in my mind's ear:

"I am IndigoDadesi.  You killed my father.  Prepare to die!"

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 2:38:01 PM   
Noah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IndigoDadesi
If thats not down and dirty enough for you, I dont really care because its my partner's ass Im going to be licking, not yours.


Touché!

In truth it probably will be his hinder and not mine, but no one would blame you for trying to keep the dream alive.

As for me--another tradesman--I keep my immune system in tip-top shape by presenting it with a constant supply of low-grade challenges and an occasional whopper or two. While my kink abandons egalitarian notions generally, this is one area where I'm willing to treat my partners as equal.

In a spirit of compassion I'll spare you the knowledge of how MY naughty bits get clean after a hard day on the sweltering jobsite.

Some solid looking research indicates that trying to raise kids hermetically sealed, for instance, contributes in the long run to disease and allergic reactions when they finally encounter the bio-agents that nature was ready for them to encounter all along. I think there is a clue in there for all of us.

Clean is good. Clean and sun-washed is kind of great. Dirty and sweaty and nasty is fine too if all the other pieces are in place.

Maybe you should consider that kind of operant conditioning wherein one exposes oneself to mildly toublesome but basically innocuous stimuli. Once acclimated to that one chooses some slightly more odious (in terms of the squick) stimuli and works her way up to wrestling buzzards off of shitwagons and using their beaks to scratch those hard-to-reach itches.

You seem cool aside from this appalling freak thing of yours, IndigoD. I hope you and TIGMIGSTICK arrive at a mutually rewarding equilibrium, or --even better where I come from--disequilibrium.



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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 3:12:32 PM   
IndigoDadesi


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Status: offline 		EvilGeoff:

I never thought about it that way but...

"Hello down there. Slow going?"
"I dont mean to be rude but this isnt as easy as it looks so I'd appreciate it if you wouldnt distract me."
"Sorry....I do not suppose you could speed things up?"
"If your in such a hurry you could lower a rope or tree branch or find something useful to do"
"I could do that. Ive got some rope up here. But I do not think you would accept my help since I am only waiting around to kill you"
"That does put a damper on our relationship"

Thats one of my favorite movies.

Cheers.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 3:22:28 PM   
IndigoDadesi


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Status: offline 		Noah:

I would shock and amaze you with the leaps and bounds I have already made, but somehow I just dont think youre interested.

I guess your not so bad yourself, aside from being a dirty freak. I shudder to think where your buzzard beaks have been.

Thanks for the advice.

Believe it or not I used to play in the mud all the time. Maybe Ive just studied one too many petri dish since then.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 8:01:45 PM   
Noah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: IndigoDadesi

Noah:

I would shock and amaze you with the leaps and bounds I have already made, but somehow I just dont think youre interested.



Oh no please. I was born to have adventure. I'm waiting to hear with bated bad breath. About your leaps, that is. Us big mean Dominates don't have to care about a girl's bounds.

But come on ... your metal-melter really doesn't brush his teeth from week to week without being reminded? I'll bet he can lift heavy things though.

Does anyone remember the Washington DC band "The Pheremones" and their song: "Feminine Deoodorant Spray Makes Me Sneeze"? Most of the clubs I used to hear them play in were pretty scummy, come to think of it.

I'm wondering what your nickname is about, IndogoDadesi. I couldn't avoid imagining a counterpart for you called ChartreuseLalucy.



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RE: Clean Kink - 7/20/2006 11:53:36 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		I know this is a serious thread and am not trying to make anyone angry - BUT:

I cannot sleep and just tuned in to see what's happening on the boards, and just gotta say -

Sometimes I tune in for the humor, because some threads are just plain fun (and funny) to read. This one is classic. For certain. 
 
And again - I am not trying to be mean (I haven't got a mean bone in my body). 
But - thanks very much for making my late night worthwhile.

- Susan

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 1:40:07 AM   
NastyDaddy


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Status: offline 		Some mammals routinely sniff and lick each others assholes as if in showing passiveness or respect.
Of course they are dumb as dirt, albeit being capable of hearing and seeing things us smarter mammals can't... 

Wish I could find the reference to the study that concluded there are more germs in your mouth than in your anus...

So now I'm wondering if the worldly expression ''Kiss my ass'' was based on humiliation or was it based on hygiene?

In the old days most people took regular baths... at least once a month, and usually washed their clothes in their bathwater.
Embrace and appreciate civilization, imagine what they had to deal with... no saran wrap, no condoms, no dental dams, no plastic anything... no collarme message board, no Walmart, no internet.... just lots of cocaine cola syrup and medicinal rot-gut whisky!



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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 3:23:53 AM   
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Yes - there is a fine line between safety and OCD.
 
That said there are things you are doing that may be causing you greater risk and you dont realise it.
Toothpaste could cause you pelvic infections and thrush as it can attack the 'good ' bacteria present.
Showering with a 'probing' shower nozzle is dangerous in whatever oriffice you are probing with and you risk damaging or causing infections.  The water isnt sterile, it isnt even tap water(usually - unless you are showering from the kitchen which is mains - as it's probably stored in a tank if it is bathroom).  You would be better off purchasing enema kits and working that into your sexual life instead.
Gloves aren't much better than normal hands unless they are sterile surgical ones which few are anyway and they cost alot of money - not just a few pounds or dollars like the latex ones you purchase at the chemist.  The only advantage of gloves is they do aid if you have long nails.
 
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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 3:50:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IndigoDadesi

If thats not down and dirty enough for you, I dont really care because its my partner's ass Im going to be licking, not yours.


You seem to forget that what you're talking about is an ass.  It's supposed to look like an ass, smell like an ass and yes, even taste like an ass.  So take a nice long shower, brush his teeth if that floats your boat.  Hell...brush his ass.  But remember that even after just a few sparkly clean minutes that it is still...an ass. 
I have to say that if someone had an ongoing reaction to me like you appear to be having with him then I'd be just a bit offended.

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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 5:52:35 AM   
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Personally, for a woman interested in rimming a guy who goes days without brushing his teeth...I'd say she's brave as hell!  I can't imagine this guy's personal hygiene!  Isn't this where the term 'cookies' comes from?   Blechhhhhh  (In the old days we called 'em dingleberries...)
 


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RE: Clean Kink - 7/21/2006 6:03:29 AM   
Sunshine119


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Status: offline 		I woke up this morning with a few minutes before I headed off to work and couldn't resist this thread.  I'm a clean nut as well, but I also don't have sex with a welder.

I have noticed that I find him much hotter immediately after he comes home from work (he has a white collar job).  He took his shower (and yes, brushed his teeth) first thing in the morning.  But, when he hasn't showered in a few hours, I can smell HIM.  His pheremones drive me nuts!  When I am nuzzling his sack, His smell is what causes me to fall into a deep submissive state.  We have talked about this a few times.  It is all about the smell.

When emerging from a shower, he smells just like the soap and hair products we buy.  Not a major turn on. 

As for the rimming.......that's where I start being a bit of the neat freak.  I wouldn't play with the germs there.  Others have mentioned that a clean hinney might be cleaner than the food served in a restaurant......hmmmm, maybe I have to consider eating home more often...lol.



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