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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire
I am also led to believe women's cubicles are private affairs, whilst us men are a how high can one piss at the trough - yes we still have those ones here and there, as well as the wee individual ones.
I will cop to this one. In general, when it comes to restrooms, gym showers, or similar public facilities, there's almost always more privacy accommodations for women. I don't want to sound disgusting but I don't have any desire to shower with other people during my cycle.
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Didn't south park do an episode on this it was quite a good episode - so few are.
OK, we're going to put this in the 'dumb trivia LP knows about' category. There are certain things that come through in South Park that were very much what attitudes were like living in Colorado during certain periods. Colorado was one of the first states back in the nineties to pass a statewide initiative by general vote that really was an outright discrimination law. That 'state of hate' nickname was rather apt even after it was repealed. The character of the mayor on South Park was actually based (roughly) on Colorado Springs Mayor Mary Lou Makepeace.
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
The fact that the left labels everything they do as "progressive" is a mere smokescreen behind which they hide their own bias. The arrogance which sees them label values held dear by conservatives as "oppressive" is just another piece of political legerdemain designed to advance the victim-hood mantra.
Fact: Trans people commit suicide at record rates even post surgery.
Fact: Aside from those with genuine chromosomal abnormalities, there is no scientific evidence to suggest transgenderism is anything other than a mental illness.
Based upon those two facts, it is perfectly permissible to hold the viewpoint that self-mutilation and ingestion of hormones does not swap your gender. From that perspective, the desire to divide bathrooms along biological gender lines is completely rational.
The view that this constitutes oppression or persecution is - in addition to being an example of hysteria and hyperbole - basically comparing your opponents to Hitler. At which point Godwin's law pretty much implies you've lost the argument.
I realise most of the left is too stupid and enmeshed in the victim-hood mantra to think straight, but this is the essential reality which is present in conservative states. And I support their right to administer these things as they see fit.
Transgender folk tend to be special snowflakes who try and insist that society bends around their illness. That ludicrous premise is both unsupported by science and monstrously self-absorbed. Accordingly, I think this madness is going to hit a critical point, beyond which Western society simply will not bend.
The fact that I highlighted, I will not debate. If you look at certain percentages of other areas, such as assault, the rates also tend to increase when compared to those in the het community when looking at ratios. Some of that first fact does come from severe depression, which would be impossible to declare that has nothing to do with the world treating them differently, and not in positive ways.
While this really isn't *just* a bathroom bill, that's at least some of the focus. Charolette, Greensboro, and other cities and counties already had ordinances in place that the gender a person appears/identifies as had the right to use the facility that matched that gender. HB2, nullified what was already working in various places of the state. Pretty slick, too. Bill drafted, special session called, and signed into law before a lot of people realized it was pushed through.
The bathroom part aside, the other part of HB2 is it takes away the legal opportunity to seek redress in cases of employment termination due to discrimination. In an employment at will state, it's already hard enough to prove that you were let go for something other than valid reasons. (Used to work HR and I can promise you that most people aren't the perfect little employees that they think they are.) Now, you can't even file against your former employer.
A little premature on the Godwin's Law. It's probably got a shot at potential. Wait until NC has to start funneling money into defending the law in court, the "sides" start really running a bunch of commercials, and it gets to another level of heated. Shall we start the pool now on how long that will take?
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