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if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 3:15:45 AM   
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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 3:47:27 AM   
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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 3:51:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what? Trillions? He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office. He's hardly rocked the boat and even caved to many republican demands. He also ensured that everyone, no matter their circumstance, would be able to get access to proper healthcare (which was originally based off of Mitt Romney's state healthcare plan no less). Not to mention they re-elected him. So obviously he was doing something right that the majority of people recognized. Take your partisan blinders off and get some perspective, he wasn't great but he wasn't horrible, the one who came before him will always been seen as a screw up by comparison.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 4:05:05 AM   
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Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what?

Yeah? Which war was that?
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He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office.

Yeah? And how did he do that?

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 4:10:04 AM   
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Thank Gawd you're not. Obama is the worst President in the last 80 years.


saw a little blurb last night in which it was stated that gallup found obama is the most divisive president since the history of that particular poll (at least since the 50s).

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 4:17:40 AM   
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Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what? Trillions? He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office. He's hardly rocked the boat and even caved to many republican demands. He also ensured that everyone, no matter their circumstance, would be able to get access to proper healthcare (which was originally based off of Mitt Romney's state healthcare plan no less). Not to mention they re-elected him. So obviously he was doing something right that the majority of people recognized. Take your partisan blinders off and get some perspective, he wasn't great but he wasn't horrible, the one who came before him will always been seen as a screw up by comparison.


How about some realizm from a real American. He may have ended a war that for all intents and purposes was already won, but how many more did he start? How many American allies did he push out of power only to be replaced by the Muslim brotherhood? Oh, and let's not forget that he is responsible for the rise of ISIS.

The American recession is alive and well due to his policies. 95 million Americans out of work, millions of more Americans on food stamps, the workforce participation rate is at its lowest since before W.W.II, 35 million illegal aliens here taking American jobs, leaving the boarders open to bring in more illegals and terrorists to further destroy America.

Obama got everything he wanted from the Republicans and more. There was NO opposition from the Republicans for the past 7 1/2 years. That explains why Donald Trump has won the Republican nomination. He fights for Americans.

Just this week another major insurance company is pulling out of Obamacare because there aren't enough people signed up to make it profitable. Obama has taken the greatest healthcare system the world has ever known and destroyed it.

The only reason Obama was elected was that the Republicans nominated Mitt Romney which started Romnycare in Massachusetts and 4 million Americans chose to stay home and not vote. If they had voted, Obama would have been beaten.

So, before some of you people start spouting off things that you might have heard from VERY LIBERAL news sources, you might want to get the real facts from someone who actually is living here.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 4:22:09 AM   
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Thank Gawd you're not. Obama is the worst President in the last 80 years.


saw a little blurb last night in which it was stated that gallup found obama is the most divisive president since the history of that particular poll (at least since the 50s).



I don't buy that. He's been pretty successful in uniting extremist Muslims, Putin, and anyone who's parents were democraps to fight against and tear down the values that this country used to hold dear.

I can't wait until Minnesota becomes the Western headquarters for the Islamic Caliphate. That will make America a much better place. Minnesota's too cold, anyway. Give 'em Minnesota and Alaska (but we keep the oil).



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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 4:25:37 AM   
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Just that nobody gives a shit about turmoil his left Libya under!

But at least Iraq was fucked up anyway before Bush invaded.

Libya was prosperous and the African nation that was doing the best in Africa and had the best level of living in Africa! And now, it's like..., a piece of shit land!

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 5:25:40 AM   
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talk about desperate.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 5:34:42 AM   
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revisionist history this early in the morning?
LMAO
talk about desperate.


Since you don't have anything constructive to say, your comments get trashed and unimportant.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 5:40:23 AM   
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Ok now have we had enough snark? or do you want more?


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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 6:33:22 AM   
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revisionist history this early in the morning?
LMAO
talk about desperate.


Since you don't have anything constructive to say, your comments get trashed and unimportant.

Here is something constructive. You are ignorant of fact or thought. Your posts trash, and you are unimportant. Find a life outside of speech or scribbling.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 6:43:38 AM   
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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 6:49:50 AM   
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Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what?

Yeah? Which war was that?
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He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office.

Yeah? And how did he do that?


"Which war was that?'

WTF cave were you living in at the time? The media had such a blast (and took great pride!) presenting the 'heroics' of 5,000 US tanks and maybe, about "8,000 sorties" of jet bomb attacks to same purpose, blasting all 500 tanks in the Iraqi 'force' into obliteration by a great variety of methods. (The Widows and The Orphans and all of The Cousins, The Sisters and the Aunts, whom Cheney blows up by the dozens!).

Oh my, I think I played a Gilbert and Sullivan thingy on the record player just yesterday. Pardon my indiscretion, there. We must bow to the gods of destruction when the media instructs us to do so, after all.

Or should we assume a facetious and wonderful snark effort on your part, there?

Just curious, maybe for my not fully awake self, yet, but ...

I think that is my favorite line of all time.

"Which war was that?"

Stoppits! Killing me here!

SO Paris Hilton-like.

Oh, the T-shirts ...





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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 6:53:37 AM   
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Every single post of yours has been garbage honey.

Ok now have we had enough snark? or do you want more?



I have stated facts, you are the one snarky. Maybe you can elect him president of Canada and he can do for Canada what he has done for Anerica. High unemployment, millions of illegals, unsecured boarders, failing economic policies...... On and on and on and on

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 7:18:54 AM   
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The American recession is alive and well due to his policies. 95 million Americans out of work, millions of more Americans on food stamps, the workforce participation rate is at its lowest since before W.W.II, 35 million illegal aliens here taking American jobs, leaving the boarders open to bring in more illegals and terrorists to further destroy America.

Obama got everything he wanted from the Republicans and more. There was NO opposition from the Republicans for the past 7 1/2 years. That explains why Donald Trump has won the Republican nomination. He fights for Americans.

Just this week another major insurance company is pulling out of Obamacare because there aren't enough people signed up to make it profitable. Obama has taken the greatest healthcare system the world has ever known and destroyed it.

The only reason Obama was elected was that the Republicans nominated Mitt Romney which started Romnycare in Massachusetts and 4 million Americans chose to stay home and not vote. If they had voted, Obama would have been beaten.

So, before some of you people start spouting off things that you might have heard from VERY LIBERAL news sources, you might want to get the real facts from someone who actually is living here.



As far as I can tell, most of that is disinformational talking points from talk radio. That's infotainment. Not valid as a source of news.

Claiming that Obama got everything he wanted from the Republicans and more. ? That's from Rush, right? Another talking point without proof, and without substance. It's revisionist history according to many. Just Google the sentence. I paid attention to the news from all sides during the last ten years. I witnessed endless Republican obstruction.

Let's take one of the talking points, present facts, and see where it goes.

the workforce participation rate is at its lowest since before W.W.II I remembered that as a Cruz talking point.

According to the Federal Reserve, the economy has been in recovery for years.

Here is a chart with the latest data. The chart comes from the St. Louis Federal Reserve.
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CIVPART

Here is an analysis of the Cruz talking point, from 2014, by Politifact. It was rated "Mostly True".
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jan/26/ted-cruz/labor-force-participation-its-lowest-point-1978-sa/

Bloomberg published their own view of the phenomenon of declining workforce participation in July 2015, here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-02/this-is-why-participation-in-the-american-workforce-has-plunged-to-its-lowest-since-1977

The time period covered by the chart saw huge changes in the workforce.

Including the period during which the Baby Boomers retired (still happening) with the period that saw the creation of millions of dual-income households just doesn't seem helpful toward understanding what is going on. "Since WW2" is there for shock value, not information.

What should we conclude from the facts presented by the Federal Reserve and the BLS?



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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 7:44:39 AM   
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I have stated facts, you are the one snarky.
no
you havent.

Maybe you can elect him president of Canada and he can do for Canada what he has done for Anerica.
Obama is too far to the right of me And Trudeau is doing just fine. so that little bit of assholery is factless.

High unemployment,
Unemployment was losing 300,000 month before jan 09. He had little to do with the loss and plenty to do with the fact that its back to were it was before the depression. And lower than it was in 2004.
Even the U6 numbers which includes counting the unemployed is down to what it was before the end of 2008
Nov 08.
U6 numbers were 12.8%
U6 numbers for Jan 15 was 11.3%


Millions of illegals,
The number of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007 at 12.2 million. its now 11.3 million
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

According to MPI estimates, about 7.8 million unauthorized immigrants present in the United States in the 2009-13 period (71 percent of the total unauthorized population) were born in Mexico and other Central America countries. About 1.5 million (14 percent) were from Asia; 690,000 (6 percent) from South America; 423,000 (4 percent) from Europe, Canada, or Oceania; 342,000 (3 percent) from Africa; and 260,000 (2 percent) from the Caribbean.
http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#Unauthorized Immigrants

Obama’s government has deported more than 2.5 million people—up 23% from the George W. Bush years.
the percentage of deportations of those with criminal convictions has also increased under Obama.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/12/16/the-numbers-ted-cruz-cited-on-past-deportations-during-the-cnn-debate-were-way-off/


Unsecured boarders, Nobody has closed the borders. Not one person. Not one party.
Trump says he will but, LOL he is dreaming.
Failing economic policies.. Yes because George did so well with his and obama started with a clean slate. ANd the repubs have blocked his bills..... HIs reBut LMAO yes thats something trump will have trouble with too. At least according to CNBC


Please point out the facts in your claims
Or will you do as you normally do, and not post anything to back up *your * position with links and sources.
please do, Im sure we are waiting with baited breath.







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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 7:49:03 AM   
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Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what? Trillions? He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office. He's hardly rocked the boat and even caved to many republican demands. He also ensured that everyone, no matter their circumstance, would be able to get access to proper healthcare (which was originally based off of Mitt Romney's state healthcare plan no less). Not to mention they re-elected him. So obviously he was doing something right that the majority of people recognized. Take your partisan blinders off and get some perspective, he wasn't great but he wasn't horrible, the one who came before him will always been seen as a screw up by comparison.

And by doing so he created ISIS.
Cut and run doesn't work.
And by doing so he put healthcare aout of reach so that while they may now have insurance they can't afford it.

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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 7:57:51 AM   
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RE: if i was in the USA !!! - 5/6/2016 7:58:16 AM   
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Despite the fact that he ended a war started by another president that costed, what? Trillions? He brought you out of a recession that began before he came into office. He's hardly rocked the boat and even caved to many republican demands. He also ensured that everyone, no matter their circumstance, would be able to get access to proper healthcare (which was originally based off of Mitt Romney's state healthcare plan no less). Not to mention they re-elected him. So obviously he was doing something right that the majority of people recognized. Take your partisan blinders off and get some perspective, he wasn't great but he wasn't horrible, the one who came before him will always been seen as a screw up by comparison.

And by doing so he created ISIS.
Cut and run doesn't work.
And by doing so he put healthcare aout of reach so that while they may now have insurance they can't afford it.

what utter crap.


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