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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 6:41:59 AM   
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Since the ovum came from a jewish body, it is considered jewish by the jews.

And yet that doesn't make the person it grows into a Jew.


Actually, it does. You are jewish whether you choose to believe or not.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship

So I repeat. You are wrong. I've given you two authoritative cites - will an admission of error be forthcoming?

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 6:59:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.


I'm unaware of you previously asking for evidence to back this claim. Be that as it may, you asked for evidence so here it is:

post #93 on page 5 of this thread ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906665/mpage_5/tm.htm ) You posted:
"Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children"

That is a blatant case of you accusing the left of pedophilia.


No actually its a case of me posting a image. You have no idea of the reasons I posted it, what I support and what I don't support.

Quite some time ago either you or Lucy - I believe it was lucy, posted a graphic which I took issue with. The response from the liberal left here was - since it was a graphic one couldn't possibly ascribe racism to the poster. So, with that as a precedent I repeated bounty's graphic -- predominantly since it succeeded in provoking you lefties and secure in the knowledge that one of you would overreact.

Congratulations - you are that leftie. Imagine my surprise.


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" It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to our looney Right contributors (or perhaps more accurately, in their own minds the rules don't apply). to "It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me". You altered my text to change its meaning completely and making it disparaging to me. Blatant cheating by any standard. Despicable behaviour. "

Lol - so let me get this straight although it is really hard to respond with anything other than laughing at you...


But its ok for you to lie,
its ok for you to disparage .. you know "sick, twisted, looney, obstinate, pathetic"

You are demonstrating- quite clearly your belief that the rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to you. Thanks for proving once again. Hypocrisy and vitriol. The lefts goto solution.




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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 7:01:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can pretend she is only saying it phonetically but we both know better.

As to the meme, I never said there was anything ok with it, but I am not surprised you are twisting my words to claim I did. Seems to be sop with you.

And I will start taking your advice on how much to post or not post when you start paying me a salary to be here. Until then it's really none of your fucking business.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 7:03:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Since the ovum came from a jewish body, it is considered jewish by the jews.

And yet that doesn't make the person it grows into a Jew.


Actually, it does. You are jewish whether you choose to believe or not.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship

So I repeat. You are wrong. I've given you two authoritative cites - will an admission of error be forthcoming?



True, but don't expect everyone to understand.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 7:12:51 AM   
Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Since the ovum came from a jewish body, it is considered jewish by the jews.

And yet that doesn't make the person it grows into a Jew.


Actually, it does. You are jewish whether you choose to believe or not.

http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship

So I repeat. You are wrong. I've given you two authoritative cites - will an admission of error be forthcoming?



True, but don't expect everyone to understand.


I don't expect any of our domestic rabid lefties here to understand. Their feelings and their opinions trump fact. I had hopes that dizzy might join the club, - but CD stands alone as the sole intellectually honest liberal here.


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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 7:29:18 AM   
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You can pretend she is only saying it phonetically but we both know better.

As to the meme, I never said there was anything ok with it, but I am not surprised you are twisting my words to claim I did. Seems to be sop with you.

And I will start taking your advice on how much to post or not post when you start paying me a salary to be here. Until then it's really none of your fucking business.

I didnt say anything about her "reasons" I asked you to pronounce phydeaux.
Oh Im sorry, you focussed on her calling him fido completely ignoring the meme. but thats ok....Im not the one pointing out misuse of peoples names to bypass what they*tweak* were responding to/.
And until you stop posting shit you accuse everyone else of doing, I will continue to point out your bullshit posts.
If you want me to mind my own fucking business, mind your own.
Or actually contribute fact to a topic.


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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 7:34:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.


I'm unaware of you previously asking for evidence to back this claim. Be that as it may, you asked for evidence so here it is:

post #93 on page 5 of this thread ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906665/mpage_5/tm.htm ) You posted:
"Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children"

That is a blatant case of you accusing the left of pedophilia.


No actually its a case of me posting a image.

So you are denying any responsibility for text, not an image but a block of text, that is posted under your name? Really?? Are you sure you don't want to blame your computer for posting the text? Did someone else post the text? No one but you and bounty44 posted the offensive text approvingly. No one but you and bounty have responsibility for the contents. You had the option of deleting/dissociating yourself from the more offensive parts of the text but you chose not to avail yourself of that option.

It was posted under your name. You, and you alone bear total responsibility for anything and everything posted under your name (unless clearly marked otherwise at the time of posting eg quoting someone else). You made the accusation that leftists "love" pedophilia. Without your input the accusation wouldn't have been made. Now in order to escape being held accountable for your own actions, you are denying responsibility for the text of your own posts. Do you really think anyone being is going to be persuaded by your denial of responsibility? If so, you are seriously deluding yourself - you seem to be turning self delusion into a lifestyle.

It seems that as well as being a liar, a cheat, and a malicious slanderer, you have no sense of personal responsibility (something that you looney Rightwingers prattle on about ceaselessly). Your pathetic cowardly attempts at slinking out of responsibility for your own sleazy actions tells us a lot about your (lack of) character and (the absence of) your integrity.





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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 8:00:47 AM   
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there is a component of ancestry in Judaism, or to be more precise in the question of who is jewish or not

as is with other religions that do not encourage conversion, missionary activities, proselytism - like for example Yezidi, Druse, Sikh


AND: there is the personal free will of the individual of being/becoming a member or not, someone can join as well as leave Judaism

there are proselytes to Judaism past and present, and there is a special status for them

it seems some only have Görings 1938 Nürnberger Gesetze in mind for defining Judaism



and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim


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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 8:02:02 AM   
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there is a component of ancestry in Judaism, or to be more precise in the question of who is jewish or not

as is with other religions that do not encourage conversion, missionary activities, proselytism - like for example Yezidi, Druse, Sikh


AND: there is the personal free will of the individual of being/becoming a member or not, someone can join as well as leave Judaism

there are proselytes to Judaism past and present, and there is a special status for them

it seems some only have Görings 1938 Nürnberger Gesetze in mind for defining Judaism



and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim


good post!


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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 8:24:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.


I'm unaware of you previously asking for evidence to back this claim. Be that as it may, you asked for evidence so here it is:

post #93 on page 5 of this thread ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906665/mpage_5/tm.htm ) You posted:
"Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children"

That is a blatant case of you accusing the left of pedophilia.


No actually its a case of me posting a image.




So you are denying any responsibility for text, not an image but a block of text,



No clearly I revel in posting that image. Just as I revel in pointing out that once again - you're an idiot. Sorry, its just that even when I tell you its an image - and its immediately testable whether or not its an image, you choose wrongly to post that its text.

see here's the html: image]http://www.collarchat.com/upfiles/1936645/0CD554A24FCF48E8B71D39E1223B90B7.jpg[/image]

[blah blah blah]

No facts presented no refutation needed. So I'll merely cut and paste my previous response to your rabid spew:

No actually its a case of me posting a image. You have no idea of the reasons I posted it, what I support and what I don't support.

Quite some time ago either you or Lucy - I believe it was lucy, posted a graphic which I took issue with. The response from the liberal left here was - since it was a graphic one couldn't possibly ascribe racism to the poster. So, with that as a precedent I repeated bounty's graphic -- predominantly since it succeeded in provoking you lefties and secure in the knowledge that one of you would overreact.

Congratulations - you are that leftie. Imagine my surprise.


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It seems that as well as being a liar, a cheat, and a malicious slanderer, you have no sense of personal responsibility (something that you looney Rightwingers prattle on about ceaselessly). Your pathetic cowardly attempts at slinking out of responsibility for your own sleazy actions tells us a lot about your (lack of) character and (the absence of) your integrity.


The truly truly delicious bit is you don't get the irony.

You are demonstrating- quite clearly your belief that the rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to you. Thanks for proving once again. Hypocrisy and vitriol. The lefts goto solution

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 8:31:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please keep posting this bilge Phydeaux.

Every time you try to dig yourself out of the hole of your own making, you succeed in making the hole deeper.

All the accusations I made against you are verified by your 'contributions' to this thread. We don't have to look any further for confirmation. However the accusation you levelled against Leftists - the we "love" pedophilia - is disgusting, even by your standards.

So please keep it up.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:33:34 AM   
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I've given you two authoritative cites

No you did not, see, I am the ONLY authority on my beliefs. What other people believe has no impact on what I believe.
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will an admission of error be forthcoming?

Nope, because I am not wrong, the sources you cited are. See, it really makes no difference if they consider me Jewish or not, I am not Jewish. I was born and raised Catholic. and left that belief system (Yay for apostasy!) and drifted a while dabbling in a few other belief systems before settling on pantheistic animism.
So, I am not, and never was Jewish, no matter what other people might say.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:39:02 AM   
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and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim

I was wondering about that myself, to be honest.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:40:22 AM   
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and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim

True, but that may well be because his religion is of no real importance.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:45:26 AM   
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and it wasn't to the electorate, besides a few white supremacists.
For some reason, it seems to be a much bigger deal to Americans. Funny, that.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:46:15 AM   
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and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim

True, but that may well be because his religion is of no real importance.


Pretty much that, I think he is non practising, not that it makes a difference, as far as I know we have religious freedom, everybody is free to have the religion they want or to not be religious. The only thing that does annoy me about the super religious is that they want their religion forced on others, even if it is quite the opposite of what their holy book says...

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 11:53:04 AM   
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and of course this has nothing to do with the new London mayor being Muslim

True, but that may well be because his religion is of no real importance.


Pretty much that, I think he is non practising, not that it makes a difference, as far as I know we have religious freedom, everybody is free to have the religion they want or to not be religious. The only thing that does annoy me about the super religious is that they want their religion forced on others, even if it is quite the opposite of what their holy book says...

As I've pointed out several times in this thread, rather than campaigning on his religion he's left whining about his religion to the Conservatives and racist minority parties. It's a bit rich coming out with bullshit like that about a politician who had the wingnut fundamentalists call for a fatwah against him and declare him an apostate over his voting record as an MP, but I suppose facts like that bear no relevance for people stupid enough to think that Barack Obama is a moslem...

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 12:46:38 PM   
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but I suppose facts like that bear no relevance for people stupid enough to think that Barack Obama is a moslem...

Or that I am a Jew just because somebody else says I am.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 12:49:05 PM   
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Pretty much that, I think he is non practising, not that it makes a difference, as far as I know we have religious freedom, everybody is free to have the religion they want or to not be religious. The only thing that does annoy me about the super religious is that they want their religion forced on others, even if it is quite the opposite of what their holy book says...


Other then Islam what other religion does that?

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 12:51:15 PM   
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Other then Islam what other religion does that?

Oh let's see....
Evangelical Christianity
Mainstream Christianity
Judaisim
Buddhism
Hinduism
Sikhism


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