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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 10:58:20 AM   
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otherwise you would see that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

That was kinda the point we were making.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 11:00:13 AM   
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The left needs to make up their mind whether a Muslim is a race or not first.

You're the only one claiming it is.

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I say Islam is transferred by their parents, they insist it's not. So they insist it's not a race.

So then why the apostasy laws? And where do all the converts come from?

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So anybody against Muslims, is yet a racist?

Only in your mind.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 4:30:36 PM   
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The left needs to make up their mind whether a Muslim is a race or not first.

You're the only one claiming it is.


I cannot speak for what greta might be thinking, but its my recollection that criticisms against islam have not just been met with cries of "islamophobia" but also of "racism."

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 4:34:46 PM   
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and what point would that be? That you claim everyone who disagrees with you is a racist? Because I got to tell you, I didn't have to prove that. Your posts speak for themselves.


You have no room to talk, I clearly recall you, lovmuffin and others telling me that a song about a dead black kid, on White Supremecist site, wasnt racist.

If you dont like being called racist, just stop defending racism. Its not fucking difficult.


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The pattern has been for liberals to redefine all political debate to the point that anything which does not conform to their agenda is instantly characterized as “rancor,” “extremism,” or “hate.” While liberals have engaged in such tactics for many years, the degree to which it is currently done has grown in recent years. The Tea Party’s devotion to fiscal sanity is “draconian” or “mean spirited.” Concern for the moral preservation and restoration of the nation and its foundational institutions including traditionally defined marriage, is “homophobic” or “hateful.” Protection of the unborn is “sexist” or “anti-woman.” Recognition of the cultural and spiritual roots of the nation, and their critical importance to its future are “religious intolerance” or “xenophobia.” Yet Congresswoman Maxine Waters is called “mainstream” by the MSM...

•racist: The MSM and current administration [and the comrades here] have used this word so much that the word has lost relevance in any honest debate.


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The left is notorious for name-calling. When they hear an opinion contrary their own, the self-proclaimed bastions of tolerance become the most vile, intolerant bullies on the block. Name-calling is their automatic defense mechanism for losing an argument. In moments of desperation, liberals resort to petty name-calling, painting their opposition as a heinous creature unworthy of living on planet earth.

But lately, it’s really getting out of hand. The left’s latest favorite word is “racist.” I’m actually starting to wonder if they know the actual definition.

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http://www.youngcons.com/cnn-decided-to-redefine-racism-and-its-beyond-ridiculous/

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 4:39:19 PM   
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And it works both ways. For example, from your quote "The Tea Party’s devotion to fiscal sanity". See the issue yet?

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 4:43:32 PM   
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nope...because not spending more money than we have, and being responsible with what money we do have, is the essence of "fiscal sanity" and that what the tea party folks advocate for.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 4:57:49 PM   
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That's about what I expected.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 5:04:12 PM   
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feel free to be a bit more forthcoming with your esoteric understanding then.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 7:09:18 PM   
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Nah, there really is no point. If you can't see it on your own it is because you choose not to see it.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 7:27:14 PM   
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Not so. According to judaism, children of a jewish woman, even if she renunciates, are still jewish.

So have they mapped the Jew gene yet?

More to the point, doesn't that effectively mean that there's no such thing as a Christian, as all of the early converts and Christ's mother were Jewish?



Only if you are really drunk or lack any understanding of what a christian is. otherwise you would see that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Marked the bit you seem to be missing for you.


I didn't miss that part, but your question was about christians and only showed that you know nothing about them. It doesn't have anything to do with who your parents were. It's a belief system.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 8:46:11 PM   
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It doesn't have anything to do with who your parents were. It's a belief system.

And that was his point!

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 9:11:03 PM   
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Isn't the key thing whether TDC sees herself as Jewish?

She can see herself whatever she wants to see herself. And define herself whatever she wants to define herself, because she has the right and freedom to do so. But that doesn't mean I have to see her the way she defines herself.

But this is like me, being born to a chinese mom, and then not seeing myself as a chinese. Denying I am chinese. But other people will still see me as chinese as much as I deny that I am a chinese.

But of course it's my right to identify myself as whatever I want. It's like that white woman who was born white but keeps insisting she's black right? But other people will see her as white.

It's like Obama has a white mom, but identifies as solely a black. When his half and half. But everybody calls him a black President when his really a Mixed President and ignores his white blood, even though he has it, but they choose to believe it does not exist, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


No, because religion has no genetic component, it is not a physical characteristic.


Not so. According to judaism, children of a jewish woman, even if she renunciates, are still jewish. Facts are often inconvenient things. You should challenge your prejudices more.



First - scientifically speaking, life is more than DNA. The cytoplasm - the ovum are a genetic component, but they are not part of a gene.
Since the ovum came from a jewish body, it is considered jewish by the jews.

The fact that you have doubled down on your snark doesn't make any more correct. While it is possible to convert to judaism, the vast majority of the religion are born into it. They share a genetic component.

And since you are once again ignorant, let me share with you that people from ethiopia, and the middle east can have their dna tested - and if it comes back positive for certain markers they are granted status both as jews and Israelis.

Try googling DNA Right of return.
Or here's one article- but at least try to read past the headlines would you, hmm? http://jlb.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/06/16/jlb.lsv027.full

So as ignorant as your racist comment was - apparently, yes indeed they have mapped the Jew gene. Racist.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 9:32:39 PM   
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Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.

Exactly when are you going to follow the rules you advise for others, hmm?

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For example, see the blatant refusal to face facts here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906727/tm.htm Please note in particular post # 12 (where fido's 'facts are shown conclusively to be false), post #13 (where fido's reaction is to dismiss post#12 as "bullshit") and post # 17,


Just curious tweak. Which "fact" is shown to be false, hmm? Are the US escorting ships through the straights of hormuz? Why, no, actually they aren't.
The fact that VOA under political pressure pulled an article and scrubbed an article from its website - and I provided a mirrored link to it - proves what exactly.

Are you denying Iran threatened to close the straight? http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/05/05/irans-hollow-threats-to-close-the-strait-of-hormuz/
Are you denying that the US stopped escorting ships? http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-ends-strait-of-hormuz-escort-mission-1430937782


The fact that the US chose to pull a statement and publish a more palatable version doesn't make the revised statement any more accurate or correct than the first. In other words, you engage in disparaging statements without evidence.




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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 9:56:25 PM   
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Since the ovum came from a jewish body, it is considered jewish by the jews.

And yet that doesn't make the person it grows into a Jew.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/12/2016 9:59:16 PM   
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My grandmother was Jewish, converted to Catholicism. Her daughter (my mother) was baptized Catholic as an infant and was a Catholic until the day she died. I was baptized Catholic as an infant, raised Catholic and was Catholic until I left the church in my teens. Therefore there have been two generations of non-Jews descending from a Jewish woman.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 2:40:17 AM   
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Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.


I'm unaware of you previously asking for evidence to back this claim. Be that as it may, you asked for evidence so here it is:

post #93 on page 5 of this thread ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906665/mpage_5/tm.htm ) You posted:
"Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children"

That is a blatant case of you accusing the left of pedophilia.


I also note the devious manner in which you changed my quote above from the original " It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to our looney Right contributors (or perhaps more accurately, in their own minds the rules don't apply). to "It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me". You altered my text to change its meaning completely and making it disparaging to me. Blatant cheating by any standard. Despicable behaviour.

Leaving aside that this kind of text manipulation is against the TOS, this kind of sly underhand manipulation is precisely what I have come to expect from you. Why is your own case so weak that you are forced to continually resort to ugly smears, devious tricks, blatant lies, inflammatory false accusations and manipulation to make your case? Why are the facts insufficient for you to make your case?

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For example, see the blatant refusal to face facts here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906727/tm.htm Please note in particular post # 12 (where fido's 'facts are shown conclusively to be false), post #13 (where fido's reaction is to dismiss post#12 as "bullshit") and post # 17,


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Just curious tweak. Which "fact" is shown to be false, hmm?


Anyone interested can go to the thread at the link I supplied and see that the entire OP for the thread that you started relied completely on a false news report. When this was brought to your attention by me, your response was to accuse me of "Bullshit". You refused point blank to accept that your OP was negated entirely causing another poster to comment about you:

"Look closely people, these are the words of someone who can't admit when they're wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence. The original article was clearly wrong, so it was removed, which happens sometimes in news. However, despite the fact that major news outlets removed it because of its inaccuracies, Fido here refuses to accept that it, and by extension he, was wrong. (emphasis added) (op cit)

It seems you are making a habit of refusing to accept you are wrong. Hardly surprising when someone is so wrong as often and as comprehensively as you and your fellow looney Right wingers are. A possible explanation is that you are so out of touch with reality and so far up your own behind that you simply don't realise you are wrong, or believe that you are capable of being wrong. Unfortunately for you wilful self delusion is no excuse for your appalling behaviour.

I am sure that, by now, people have all the relevant information so that they can make their own judgements.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 3:15:08 AM   
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and what point would that be? That you claim everyone who disagrees with you is a racist? Because I got to tell you, I didn't have to prove that. Your posts speak for themselves.


You have no room to talk, I clearly recall you, lovmuffin and others telling me that a song about a dead black kid, on White Supremecist site, wasnt racist.

If you dont like being called racist, just stop defending racism. Its not fucking difficult.


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The pattern has been for liberals to redefine all political debate to the point that anything which does not conform to their agenda is instantly characterized as “rancor,” “extremism,” or “hate.” While liberals have engaged in such tactics for many years, the degree to which it is currently done has grown in recent years. The Tea Party’s devotion to fiscal sanity is “draconian” or “mean spirited.” Concern for the moral preservation and restoration of the nation and its foundational institutions including traditionally defined marriage, is “homophobic” or “hateful.” Protection of the unborn is “sexist” or “anti-woman.” Recognition of the cultural and spiritual roots of the nation, and their critical importance to its future are “religious intolerance” or “xenophobia.” Yet Congresswoman Maxine Waters is called “mainstream” by the MSM...

•racist: The MSM and current administration [and the comrades here] have used this word so much that the word has lost relevance in any honest debate.


http://www.floppingaces.net/2011/09/03/liberals-redefine-words-reader-post/

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The left is notorious for name-calling. When they hear an opinion contrary their own, the self-proclaimed bastions of tolerance become the most vile, intolerant bullies on the block. Name-calling is their automatic defense mechanism for losing an argument. In moments of desperation, liberals resort to petty name-calling, painting their opposition as a heinous creature unworthy of living on planet earth.

But lately, it’s really getting out of hand. The left’s latest favorite word is “racist.” I’m actually starting to wonder if they know the actual definition.

hallo, Inigo Montoya!


http://www.youngcons.com/cnn-decided-to-redefine-racism-and-its-beyond-ridiculous/


Thanks, those were good links. And likely to be the only ones I get in response to my post since the chances of politesub returning and backing up his lies are slim to none.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 3:20:55 AM   
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Any decent person caught red handed smearing their opponent would withdraw and apologise. It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me.


So tweak you originally lied ad said I accused the left of pedophaelia. You still haven't found a single quote by me saying that.


I'm unaware of you previously asking for evidence to back this claim. Be that as it may, you asked for evidence so here it is:

post #93 on page 5 of this thread ( http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906665/mpage_5/tm.htm ) You posted:
"Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children"

That is a blatant case of you accusing the left of pedophilia.

Actually it's a blatant case of him posting something someone else said on the boards, but keep claiming you are going to quote him. Most people will be able to tell it's bullshit.

I also note the devious manner in which you changed my quote above from the original " It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to our looney Right contributors (or perhaps more accurately, in their own minds the rules don't apply). to "It seems the standard rules of politeness and propriety don't apply to me". You altered my text to change its meaning completely and making it disparaging to me. Blatant cheating by any standard. Despicable behaviour.

Leaving aside that this kind of text manipulation is against the TOS, this kind of sly underhand manipulation is precisely what I have come to expect from you. Why is your own case so weak that you are forced to continually resort to ugly smears, devious tricks, blatant lies, inflammatory false accusations and manipulation to make your case? Why are the facts insufficient for you to make your case?

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tweakabelle
For example, see the blatant refusal to face facts here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4906727/tm.htm Please note in particular post # 12 (where fido's 'facts are shown conclusively to be false), post #13 (where fido's reaction is to dismiss post#12 as "bullshit") and post # 17,


I'd take your claims of his despicable posts more seriously if you stopped calling him Fido. Until then you are just another troll spewing out insults.

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Just curious tweak. Which "fact" is shown to be false, hmm?


Anyone interested can go to the thread at the link I supplied and see that the entire OP for the thread that you started relied completely on a false news report. When this was brought to your attention by me, your response was to accuse me of "Bullshit". You refused point blank to accept that your OP was negated entirely causing another poster to comment about you:

"Look closely people, these are the words of someone who can't admit when they're wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence. The original article was clearly wrong, so it was removed, which happens sometimes in news. However, despite the fact that major news outlets removed it because of its inaccuracies, Fido here refuses to accept that it, and by extension he, was wrong. (emphasis added) (op cit)

It seems you are making a habit of refusing to accept you are wrong. Hardly surprising when someone is so wrong as often and as comprehensively as you and your fellow looney Right wingers are. A possible explanation is that you are so out of touch with reality and so far up your own behind that you simply don't realise you are wrong, or believe that you are capable of being wrong. Unfortunately for you wilful self delusion is no excuse for your appalling behaviour.

I am sure that, by now, people have all the relevant information so that they can make their own judgements.

Yes I am sure they do, I know I have.



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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 5:03:04 AM   
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Not so. According to judaism, children of a jewish woman, even if she renunciates, are still jewish.

So have they mapped the Jew gene yet?

More to the point, doesn't that effectively mean that there's no such thing as a Christian, as all of the early converts and Christ's mother were Jewish?



Only if you are really drunk or lack any understanding of what a christian is. otherwise you would see that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

Marked the bit you seem to be missing for you.


I didn't miss that part, but your question was about christians and only showed that you know nothing about them. It doesn't have anything to do with who your parents were. It's a belief system.

A belief system that was created by, and first believed by Jews. If you're serious about claiming that apostasy is impossible so long as somebody's mother was jewish, then there clearly weren't any Christians at all until Romans began to convert as well.

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RE: London elects Muslim as Lord Mayor - 5/13/2016 6:27:07 AM   
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I'd take your claims of his despicable posts more seriously if you stopped calling him Fido. Until then you are just another troll spewing out insults.


How do you pronounce Phydeaux ?????? try it, its easy, or Are you so perfect that you have only ever used a full name to post to? I think not.in fact I call bullshit loudly.

Thank you for making me aware that saying "Liberals and the ACLU love ...... child pornography .... legalisation of sex between adults and children" is fine cos it wasnt originally" his meme".
You went nuts over me sharing a meme about Palin a while ago, said it was my view, my lies
But you dont seem to have that same issue with that particular "meme"
colour me purple and frost my pubes
I put up a news article, about a judge in arkansas having 1000s of pictures of young men he had traded reduced sentences and fines for sexual favors and provocative photos of young men under the guise of "community service"
Nobody on the right commented on it, why? Because they really believe Only leftists are in Nambla, as bounty alluded to???
AM I being unfair? shucks.

When was the LAST time you Actually posted a thread to this board? instead of just dropping your shit on the board when you havent read the previous posts.
If you couldnt tell that WM was being sarcastic in his post, then it explains a lot.
But damn girl, you have zero room to be the forum angel.

Fido called me a murderer, why should I treat him with any respect by typing his full name. SO Im guessing I can fully expect you to call everyone by their full names Only now.

HAHAHAH


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