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Does BDSM require "sex?"


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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/29/2016 10:57:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Nothing requires sex except for engaging in sexual acts themselves.

verbatim appears to be unable to distinguish what sex is... or what BDSM is, for that matter.

Sexual attraction, along with gender preference in a sexual partner, is not the same thing as having sex or even wanting to have sex.

I can think a man is sexy without wanting to have sex with him.
I am straight, but I can see the sex appeal that some women have, and I definitely do not have the slightest desire to have sex with another woman.

I can find certain concepts and activities erotic or sexual arousing without having to engage in sex. Dancing was a wonderful example of this. So is listening to music, beholding other art forms, and having an aesthetic appreciation for sensuality.

Conversely, you (but not in my own case) can have sex with somebody as a means to an end without even being sexually attracted to that person.

There are plenty of BDSM Tops & bottoms who play without ever having sex with one another, irrespective of gender.
Having a sexual gender preference is not necessarily mutually inclusive of preferred gender in a play partner.

Non-sexual service subs may have a gender preference in whom they want to own them, but this D/s ownership preference in wanting either a Master or a Mistress (or having both as a couple), may have nothing to do with sexual partner preference.


I can tell the one with "follow your dreams" understands his own personality much more than you do because I can so easily just ask you if you use chastiaty on men and if you do then it is sexuel.

I could also ask if you do your dominantce work in the bedroom and again that would almost always show it is sexuel.

If you always do your dominance in the kitchen or in the back yard or in the pool or on the trampolene then maybe for you it is not sexual but if it moves to the bedroom then how can you say it is not sexual and still be honest with your self?

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 1:33:01 AM   
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Because beds are also places where people read books does not thus mean that all books are sexual.

Some people sleep in bed but have sex in the other rooms.

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 1:53:15 AM   
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I could also ask if you do your dominantce work in the bedroom and again that would almost always show it is sexuel.

I guess that makes doing the dishes sexual because I do a lot of my sex and my BDSM in the kitchen

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 2:01:13 AM   
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Any1 asking4 mælir sex slave??

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 2:09:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: verbatimguy

I can tell the one with "follow your dreams" understands his own personality much more than you do because I can so easily just ask you if you use chastiaty on men and if you do then it is sexuel.

I could also ask if you do your dominantce work in the bedroom and again that would almost always show it is sexuel.

If you always do your dominance in the kitchen or in the back yard or in the pool or on the trampolene then maybe for you it is not sexual but if it moves to the bedroom then how can you say it is not sexual and still be honest with your self?

Your subject matter has to do with BDSM. BDSM stands for a combination of activities. Sex is also an activity.
There is Bondage.
There is Discipline.
These two elements were once tied (no pun) together as B&D, but they are separate elements. Think of BDSM as a mechanism.
There is Sadism.
There is Masochism.
These two elements form a dyad of sadomasochism, meaning that they get paired together as a dynamic unit.

I did not want your head to implode by interjecting D/s, which is Dominance & submission, another paired dyad.
However, D/s is not determined by activity level. It is a state of being. Think of D/s as an entity.

My womanhood is a state of being, anatomically and psychologically. My womanhood is independent from, and does not fluctuate with, the activities I engage in. It is a constant.
Neither a D/s ownership dynamic nor my womanhood - or your manhood - is contingent upon any other intersecting or overlapping structure(s).

By the same token, BDSM and D/s, AND Sexuality are independent constructs.
Nonetheless, both BDSM - in whatever combination, or stand-alone component - and D/s can have eroticism and sexuality interwoven throughout.
The fact that they CAN overlap and intersect and work in conjunction with one another, does not signify that they MUST or that they invariably DO.

Btw, I don't practice chastity enforcement, and see it more as a micro-lifestyle practice which incorporates elements of both Bondage and Discipline.
It does revolve around sexuality and the absence (or abstinence) of sexuality; however, it is not the same as having sexual relations between a chastity slave and Keyholder, and is commonly used for nonsexual service purposes (more D/s than BDSM). When there is the optional focus on Sexual Torment, then S&M enters the picture.

Cuckolding is another micro-lifestyle practice which can incorporate Mental Torment, and therefore sadomasochism. But it can also be practiced as more of the "Hot Wife" syndrome, there can be a voyeuristic motivation, optional "forced" bi, and so forth.

Bedroom D/s is simply that, as a subset of a D/s relationship, and is usually assumed to be sexual in nature. Having bedroom D/s along with non-bedroom D/s does not make the D/s dynamic a purely sexual one.
There is no set recipe that everyone chooses to follow, and this concept is what you are having such difficulty wrapping your mind around.
I believe that you do not understand what intimacy is. Intimacy can be sexual, it can be nonsexual, or it can be a combination of both.

Bottom line. BDSM and Sex are not a paired dyad. D/s and Sex are not a paired dyad. They can coexist and often do get coupled together interdependently, but are not dependent upon one another. You can have one without the other(s).

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 3:33:40 AM   
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good explanation FireyOpal, I tried to explain it many times like that myself but he just doesn't get it. I asked him once what does BDSM stand for and he never did reply so I really don't think he has a clue.

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 3:59:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

good explanation FireyOpal, I tried to explain it many times like that myself but he just doesn't get it. I asked him once what does BDSM stand for and he never did reply so I really don't think he has a clue.

Thinking-With-Dick-itis will do that. <== Cannot be reasoned with <

So is being a middle-aged dude with a crapload of sexual hang-ups, and from spending a lifetime sexually objectifying women en masse, with one's head firmly entrenched up one's derrière.

Hopefully he has enough common sense to understand issues of consent, relative to the aforementioned.

The whole point is YMMV-Your Mileage May Vary.

I no longer care about his rudimentary comprehension; it's other newbies who stand to benefit from reading various points of views to arrive at their own personal truths.

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/30/2016 4:44:08 AM   
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the newbies that actually want to learn what BDSM is are the worthwhile ones.

to me he is a vanilla that's all he is, a vanilla that has issues with women and gay men.

he doesn't understand consent either, he thinks BDSM is being forced into it.

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/31/2016 8:00:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Because beds are also places where people read books does not thus mean that all books are sexual.

Some people sleep in bed but have sex in the other rooms.


You cant be so naeve to not know that what goes on in bedroom is different than what goes on in kitchen.

You have no falir for literary speach!

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/31/2016 10:38:01 AM   
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You cant be so naeve to not know that what goes on in bedroom is different than what goes on in kitchen.

Not always! :)
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You have no falir for literary speach!

Oh what wonderful irony!

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/31/2016 10:42:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

quote:

You cant be so naeve to not know that what goes on in bedroom is different than what goes on in kitchen.

Not always! :)
quote:

You have no falir for literary speach!

Oh what wonderful irony!



I guess we can assume that he's a meat and potatoes guy ;) I almost feel sorry for him, never experienced a good romp on the kitchen table, counter, floor, or against the fridge... The dishwasher gives quite nice vibrations too ;) Some people are so deprived...

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/31/2016 10:44:04 AM   
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I have a feeling this is a sock of a another poster who whines too much. The smelling mistrakes are bountiful, but purposefully done.

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RE: Does BDSM require "sex?" - 5/31/2016 3:07:25 PM   
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I noticed mr V the sock ignored me again, should I be insulted or happy?

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