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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 1:37:56 PM   
LilJuly76


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like MsTanner said Total Power Exchange

and no it's not like taking care of a pet

it is something a lot of people that say they are Dominant can't do and you would definitely fit that category. It takes a lot to take care of a submissive, make decisions on behalf of the submissive, sometimes it's actually mentally draining.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 1:46:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

like MsTanner said Total Power Exchange

and no it's not like taking care of a pet

it is something a lot of people that say they are Dominant can't do and you would definitely fit that category. It takes a lot to take care of a submissive, make decisions on behalf of the submissive, sometimes it's actually mentally draining.


I knew what the "T" stood for but that doesnt say what it means since nothing ios total.
Even a pet can leave when it wants to (if it can).

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 1:53:27 PM   
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oh my gosh you still don't get it.

total power exchange is the exchange of total control within a D/s or M/s relationship. The slave or submissive agrees to give up total control to the Dominant or Master in exchange the Dominant or Master will take care of the submissive, make the right decisions regarding the submissive and never put the submissive in danger that will permanently scar or damage the submissive, sometimes it's more complex than that but that's the gyst of it.

and the common mistake that newbies make like yourself is you all seem to think the submissive isn't allowed to walk away from the relationship when in fact if they choose to walk away for whatever reason they can. In fact the laws are on their side.

I almost walked away from my current relationship and years ago I chose to walk away from a 5 year relationship that I was in TPE and all because it was my choice.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 2:16:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

oh my gosh you still don't get it.

total power exchange is the exchange of total control within a D/s or M/s relationship. The slave or submissive agrees to give up total control to the Dominant or Master in exchange the Dominant or Master will take care of the submissive, make the right decisions regarding the submissive and never put the submissive in danger that will permanently scar or damage the submissive, sometimes it's more complex than that but that's the gyst of it.

and the common mistake that newbies make like yourself is you all seem to think the submissive isn't allowed to walk away from the relationship when in fact if they choose to walk away for whatever reason they can. In fact the laws are on their side.

I almost walked away from my current relationship and years ago I chose to walk away from a 5 year relationship that I was in TPE and all because it was my choice.


Which is why I said a pet can leaf if it wants to.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 2:39:01 PM   
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it's still not like taking care of a pet. Literally you are the type of person I worn other submissives about not giving up full control over, you would end up doing more damage than good.


*add on-if I remember your profile right I think you identified as a submissive, no wonder you are having trouble grasping the subject of TPE.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 3:04:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LilJuly76

if I remember your profile right I think you identified as a submissive, no wonder you are having trouble grasping the subject of TPE.

Huh? This makes about as much sense as anything verbatimguy has ever said.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/24/2016 3:10:14 PM   
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I was thinking he was a newbie Dominant not a newbie submissive, which might explain why he would have trouble understanding what it actually means to lead in a D/s or M/s relationship.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/25/2016 7:09:37 AM   
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Many newbies enter the lifestyle for just as many reasons but what they seem to be lacking is education.Many for-go the research such as BDSM 101 and have a very hard time contributing to a conversation because the research has not been done or any effort made and think they will just learn on the fly or for Doms they think they are in need of an s type to teach them.Want to be a Dom,learn from a Dom,want to be sub,learn from a sub

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/25/2016 8:11:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Housemaster96
......Personally I do not understand the terms Fetish, Kink or Taboo........


I don't think you really understand TPE either.


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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/25/2016 8:30:41 AM   
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think they will just learn on the fly

Works well for me. Besides, how do you think the first people to do something learned to do it?

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/25/2016 4:55:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

Interesting that you consider internal enslavement to be the "softer" of the two. I think the opposite. (Assuming I understand what you mean by "softer.")

Total Power Exchange: I make the choice to be in this relationship and yield all power to him.

Internal Enslavement: I have no choice; or rather, I cannot make a choice without him giving me the power to.

This is how I see it, anyway.

I don't think internal enslavement is openness and revealing inner thoughts and emotions. That's just a good relationship. It might take a D/s dynamic to bring that out, but it's not internal enslavement. Where's the "enslavement" part of being open and revealing inner emotions? That actually sounds rather freeing to me. I'd consider internal enslavement to be my actual inability to act in a certain manner, maybe even to not be able to conceive of acting in a certain manner, according to his wishes. Sure, not being able to conceive of keeping a thought or emotion from him could be enslavement, I suppose, but I guess I consider it to be more...extreme.






Wonderful observation, Kaliko.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/26/2016 1:49:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Housemaster96
If anyone has any questions about IE then message me.

Cool. I've got one.

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I worked at one time as a psychologist in a hospital.

At what point did you get to the realization that you were in the wrong line of work? Not usually my style but holy virgin Mary bouncing on a pogo stick... If this is your example of a diagnostician in the mental health field, you need another profession. (I hear McDonald's is hiring.)

Total power exchange (TPE) is about the conscious turning over of authority. That's it. That other stuff that you're blathering about in your original, (i.e., positions and all of that other gunk) is fantasist tripe. You ought to be listening to folks like Des who talk about whether or not they'll have peas for dinner tonight because that's the yes or no that shows if there is authority.

Internal enslavement is the subconscious acquiescence to that turning over of authority. It would be really cool if it were about obedience, but it's not. Instead, it's about the inner understanding about bending one's will to another or what happens when you don't.

Might I offer you a piece of advice? The next time you feel implored to lecture this forum about what TPE, IE, or any other version of the kinky alphabet soup, talk to the people in the 301 class, first.




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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/26/2016 2:21:22 PM   
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The next time you feel implored to lecture this forum about what TPE, IE, or any other version of the kinky alphabet soup, talk to the people in the 301 class, first.

Now where's the fun in that?

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/26/2016 2:53:15 PM   
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oh pfft I should tell him I'm not allowed ice cream for desert tonight

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/26/2016 9:59:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: Housemaster96
If anyone has any questions about IE then message me.

Cool. I've got one.

quote:

I worked at one time as a psychologist in a hospital.

At what point did you get to the realization that you were in the wrong line of work? Not usually my style but holy virgin Mary bouncing on a pogo stick... If this is your example of a diagnostician in the mental health field, you need another profession. (I hear McDonald's is hiring.)

Total power exchange (TPE) is about the conscious turning over of authority. That's it. That other stuff that you're blathering about in your original, (i.e., positions and all of that other gunk) is fantasist tripe. You ought to be listening to folks like Des who talk about whether or not they'll have peas for dinner tonight because that's the yes or no that shows if there is authority.

Internal enslavement is the subconscious acquiescence to that turning over of authority. It would be really cool if it were about obedience, but it's not. Instead, it's about the inner understanding about bending one's will to another or what happens when you don't.

Might I offer you a piece of advice? The next time you feel implored to lecture this forum about what TPE, IE, or any other version of the kinky alphabet soup, talk to the people in the 301 class, first.




You're awesome.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/27/2016 4:09:22 AM   
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It was the "holy virgin Mary bouncing on a pogo stick," wasn't it?


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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/27/2016 7:08:25 AM   
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The best example of Internal Enslavement came yesterday when we were buying food for a cookout. I really wanted the crunchy veggie slaw with broccoli and raisins. But all I had was a brief pang of desire because I know he wouldn't eat it. So I bought the boring Cole slaw instead.

That's how it works in real life, and by keeping it firmly grounded in reality is how you get the relationship to last this long.

By living in fantasy is how you avoid getting into a relationship.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/27/2016 7:18:18 AM   
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Oh, and I call bullshit on a psych ward filled with people with sexual dysfunction. Especially couples.

Filled with people with eating disorders, yes. People with suicidal ideation, definitely. Bipolar types I or II, sure; schizo-affective disorder, sure.

But filled with guys who liked latex? Not happening.

What I do see with the op is short guy syndrome. Because he's shorter than the average, he's trying to overcompensate for it. And people shouldn't use relationship dynamics to address issues they ought to work out under the tutelage of a good professional. Because it doesn't work and it fucks up the other person who deserves better than this.

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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/27/2016 9:17:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

What I do see with the op is short guy syndrome. Because he's shorter than the average, he's trying to overcompensate for it. And people shouldn't use relationship dynamics to address issues they ought to work out under the tutelage of a good professional. Because it doesn't work and it fucks up the other person who deserves better than this.


I noticed the over all tone - both here and in his profile, is that he thinks that submissives are people who either can't or won't "adult".


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RE: Internal Enslavement v Total Power Exchange - 5/27/2016 9:27:16 AM   
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Which is exactly the attitude you want from somebody who's out to top you, isn't it?
Still, it's interesting to find out that guys can get Dominatrix Toxaemi as well, I suppose.

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