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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/29/2016 7:01:30 PM   
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The only difference is that many service providers have much more difficult challenges to master for a much lower income.
Oh,pray do tell....what are the challenges of my business and what is my income?

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Then you should go for a 9 to 5 job, instead of being in business.
Well, first, what are my work hours? And would I work for someone else and have less control over who I have to deal with?

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If you cannot or if you don't want to satisfy a customer, then refuse him and don't accept his good money.

Actually, I can and have fired clients when the headache of dealing with them exceeded the profit of dealing with them. It's one of the joys of owning your business.

And I'm willing to bet that if we asked the Pro Domme in question, we would find that she has fired the OP.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/29/2016 7:50:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would have 2 agree with a lot of the comments from the Ladies here.
The only exception is that I've seen clients once a week and I don't consider it a "red flag."

@OP,
If I may suggest, schedule another appointment with her. This time, pay not only her tribute, but 50% more. This will put smile on her face and maybe you will get another session like the first time. Also, since she told you how busy she is, sympathize with her - be understanding. Maybe for the hour you could give her a foot massage and that would be it?


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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 1:06:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why can't the op be honest with her and tell her he wants a 'girlfriend experience'. And be willing to pay for that? She did the job, what she didn't do was pretend that she enjoyed it.

She's not a mind reader, she didn't know that you were actually looking for something different than you told her. And again, what you really want costs more, and what you did was like ordering a side salad, and only paying for that, while bitching you weren't also served a steak for free.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 6:25:49 AM   
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No, its still business, not fraud. She provided the services that that she charged for. Had she not provided the services, that would be fraud.

If it is still business, then it is fraudulent business.

The OP wrote:

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I saw her the following week and this time she was not only business orientated but in a hurry. She seemed mechanical and could hardly wait to end the session. I asked her about it and she snarled, "I've got a lot going on in my life right now. I've got a lot of things to do."

Avoiding such an attitude is a part of the service that the customer is entitled to expect. He doesn't pay a professional domme just to be beaten, otherwise he can as well press the pedal of the trash can to have the cover beat his ass or put his dick in the hose of the vacuum cleaner while rubbing his prostata with a tooth brush.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 6:44:18 AM   
QualityFirst


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Probably because (according to this post) you seen her once a week for three weeks and that's a red flag that someone is overly attached and will be a burden that can interfere with her other clients and personal life.

OMG, what's wrong with it, even if he wants to come every day, as long as he pays for it? Then he should even be considered better than a guy who only comes twice a year. It's not the customer's fault if she cannot handle her time schedule.

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She may have enjoyed it the first time around but you probably became too demanding by using payment as your bargaining chip. In other words, you turned it into a job by utilizing the "I pay for your attention" mantra.

It IS a job, as some ladies here said. And the customer does not have to care about she enjoying her job or not, he pays for it. And yes, unless the customer demands things the domme doesn't offer (like for instance sex), he should get what he wants. If it is not included in the tribute, the domme should just ask for a somewhat higher tribute.

When I go buy a BMW, I don't want the sales man to be as rude as the one of the Suzuki dealer. And yes, I go for a car of $US 30,000 and I come home with a car of $US 50,000 because of the options I want, but I get them, even if I want a pink BMW.

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Were you/do you top from the bottom?

Why would a submissive have to pay a domme, only to just get what she wants to offer him?

I don't care to have $US 250 travel expenses to go to a domme, but I will never pay her $0.01, because I will never abase a woman by paying her to at least morally oblige her to give me erotic services. Yes, the domme will get a nice gift, but only because I want to offer it to her, not for getting services in return.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 6:51:05 AM   
QualityFirst


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Oh,pray do tell....what are the challenges of my business and what is my income?

I cannot know. Just tell us how much you ask for an hour and how many hours a week you work on average. And don't forget to tell us how many times you "forget" to declare the tribute to the tax authorities.

The challenges of your business? The construction worker has to do heavy work for at least two days outside, whatever the weather, to be able to pay you for one hour of light inside work.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 6:55:54 AM   
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Not saying this is the case here, However, We all know there are some that expect/demand more from a person and their time
than is reasonable regardless of profession or gender.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 9:19:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
No, its still business, not fraud. She provided the services that that she charged for. Had she not provided the services, that would be fraud.

If it is still business, then it is fraudulent business.

The OP wrote:

quote:

I saw her the following week and this time she was not only business orientated but in a hurry. She seemed mechanical and could hardly wait to end the session. I asked her about it and she snarled, "I've got a lot going on in my life right now. I've got a lot of things to do."


That's poor customer service, not fraud. Those are two very different things. Customer service involves ability (or inability) to make a business transaction a pleasant experience-type of attitude, willingness to go above and beyond to guarantee satisfaction, communication, etc. Fraud involves manipulation, deception, and/or dishonesty in business practices. She did not deceive him-she provided the service he paid for. The fact that he was not pleased with the method of delivery does not change the fact that the service was delivered. It just means she had poor customer service skills. It might be due to a bad day, it might be the norm for her-the positive experience he had the first time could very well have been an exceptionally good day for her rather than the norm. Either way, she did the job, poorly or not.

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Avoiding such an attitude is a part of the service that the customer is entitled to expect.

Yes, and when the client is disappointed, they no longer frequent that business. That's why some businesses fail and some don't. Businesses with poor customer service end up being less in demand. That doesn't mean they are criminal.
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He doesn't pay a professional domme just to be beaten, otherwise he can as well press the pedal of the trash can to have the cover beat his ass or put his dick in the hose of the vacuum cleaner while rubbing his prostata with a tooth brush.

Actually, that is exactly what he is paying for. However, her style may not be compatible to his. That doesn't mean its fraud. Or maybe she just sucks. That doesn't mean she is acting in a criminal manner. It just means she isn't as good as she thinks she is, so she won't be as successful as she thinks she will be, unless she makes some changes.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 10:33:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Oh,pray do tell....what are the challenges of my business and what is my income?

I cannot know. Just tell us how much you ask for an hour and how many hours a week you work on average. And don't forget to tell us how many times you "forget" to declare the tribute to the tax authorities.

The challenges of your business? The construction worker has to do heavy work for at least two days outside, whatever the weather, to be able to pay you for one hour of light inside work.


Tributes? What the fuck are you talking about? And how nice of you to assume that my business isn't licensed with both the city and state and that I don't pay my taxes.

Since you clearly have no idea what I do for a living or how it's structured...why don't you stop trying to be an expert on it?





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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 2:23:04 PM   
QualityFirst


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Tributes? What the fuck are you talking about?
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Since you clearly have no idea what I do for a living or how it's structured...why don't you stop trying to be an expert on it?

This is a thread about a professional domme. As in post #3, you told that you have clients, without specifying in which industry you are in business, I assumed that you were also a professional domme.

Trying to be an expert here is something I leave to those who try to defend a professional domme who performs a poor job like a devil who has fallen in a holy water stone.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 2:33:15 PM   
QualityFirst


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The fact that he was not pleased with the method of delivery does not change the fact that the service was delivered.

Yes, the service was delivered. However, the customer doesn't pay just for the service, but for the satisfaction he can get from that service. And she spoiled that satisfaction with her bad attitude, thus stealing somewhat the customer had paid for.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 2:49:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Tributes? What the fuck are you talking about?
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Since you clearly have no idea what I do for a living or how it's structured...why don't you stop trying to be an expert on it?

This is a thread about a professional domme. As in post #3, you told that you have clients, without specifying in which industry you are in business, I assumed that you were also a professional domme.


Your assumption was wrong. Perhaps you should have asked before making such an assumption and accusing me of tax fraud in the same sentence.




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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 2:53:49 PM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: QualityFirst

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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul
The fact that he was not pleased with the method of delivery does not change the fact that the service was delivered.

Yes, the service was delivered. However, the customer doesn't pay just for the service, but for the satisfaction he can get from that service. And she spoiled that satisfaction with her bad attitude, thus stealing somewhat the customer had paid for.


Well, then...what he gets to do is vote with his wallet and go elsewhere. That's the joy of consumerism. What he doesn't get is the automatic support from a group of strangers after only hearing one side of the story. (Especially with his past posting history)



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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/30/2016 2:54:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Why can't the op be honest with her and tell her he wants a 'girlfriend experience'. And be willing to pay for that? She did the job, what she didn't do was pretend that she enjoyed it.

She's not a mind reader, she didn't know that you were actually looking for something different than you told her. And again, what you really want costs more, and what you did was like ordering a side salad, and only paying for that, while bitching you weren't also served a steak for free.


I always thoutgh that "girlfriend experiance" was no rubber.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 5:48:56 AM   
QualityFirst


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Your assumption was wrong. Perhaps you should have asked before making such an assumption

It would even have been easier if you had not give reason to think you were a pro domme, by specifying in which industry you are in business.

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and accusing me of tax fraud in the same sentence.

This is a false accusation.

I didn't accuse you of tax fraud. I just asked you to tell us how often you forget to declare your income to the tax authorities. Your answer can very well be "never".

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 5:57:02 AM   
QualityFirst


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Well, then...what he gets to do is vote with his wallet and go elsewhere.

Which is what he does. But that doesn't change what has happened to him.

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What he doesn't get is the automatic support from a group of strangers after only hearing one side of the story.

He has my support, provided what he tells is true, and he is innocent until we can prove that he is lying.

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Especially with his past posting history

It's not because I often drive faster than is allowed, that I always do so.

You are prejudiced. You don't give him a honest chance, but you defend the domme. Not very good for your credit standing.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 8:21:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jesus fucking Christ, its not that fucking difficult. If OP didnt like her services after being treated in a manner he didnt like, stop obtaining her services and find one who will give what he wants in the manner he wants it. Its that fucking simple.



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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 9:29:07 AM   
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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 10:24:39 AM   
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most mistresses are golddiggers period most dont even like men they like women and womens money in my mind there afot meaning a fucking waste of time

Aw. What's the matter? Didn't get your dick wet so now you're going to whine about it? Life isn't a porno. Deal with it.

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RE: Why Do They Treat It Like A Job? - 5/31/2016 10:35:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shandirra

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most mistresses are golddiggers period most dont even like men they like women and womens money in my mind there afot meaning a fucking waste of time

Aw. What's the matter? Didn't get your dick wet so now you're going to whine about it? Life isn't a porno. Deal with it.


What I find interesteingl is that we men and we woman needs each other but when we don't need each others we find what is bad about the ohter.

Women would be dead in teh real world without men protecting them (ask any american indian or Inca or Andes south american where their people and land and babies are).

And men would have no babies in the real world if women didn't raise them and nurture them while the men went off hunting or protecing the women. Again if you think you can fight a war with an entorage of women and babies ask any general of war what it is like trying to both fight a battle and protect teh women and children at the same time.

But in this civilization we forget that the men need the women to make and protect teh babies and the women need teh men to protect them from other men.

This classic clasjh that the men need the women for the babies and the woman need the men for basic survival manifasts itself in everythign said above only it is deep hidden and you can only see it if you look with a discirning eye.

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