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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 9:38:26 AM   
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I would be most interested in how you draw your distinctions.

Oh that's easy.
Sex: Will you fuck me?
Prostitution: How much to fuck me?



Let's also add:

The first is acceptable by societal standards, the second is illegal in most of the US and viewed by the majority of society as an undesirable person outside of the transaction.

As the running joke goes - I'd rather be a slut than a whore.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 9:40:41 AM   
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Because your a predator and pervert. There is a good reason for you.


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 9:47:11 AM   
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no, women arent whores there to take advantage of just because they are having a hard time.
Oh Dear Lord, you are so fucking naive.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 10:01:10 AM   
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If a situation like this works for someone, more power to you. Go for it. Have fun.

But, the reality is that walking up to someone that is basically a stranger and essentially saying: "Would you like to prostitute yourself and engage in kink?" (Both of which, a good chunk of US society thinks is taboo) Is most likely going to offend her.

I think if you want an arrangement like this, you're best to fish in the waters where the fish like your bait.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 10:47:45 AM   
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Have you asked her yet???
Lol I so wanna hear how she reacts ...oh to be a fly on the wall

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 11:57:59 AM   
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If you acknowledge that asking someone you barely know to be your live-in sugar baby is a touch excessive, then hopefully you can understand why so much of the reaction here hinges on that issue.

The more general form of making a pass at a bartender is noticeably less fraught. If he just asked her out to dinner or something like that, I'd be a lot more on his side. But we're reacting to the specific case as opposed to a lighter general one.


In my opinion, much of the reaction on this thread hinges on their ages or on the idea that a woman would *ever* accept such an arrangement... neither, in my opinion, is good cause for all the fuss and outrage.

If I thought what people were really objecting to was the risk/impropriety of his knowing so little about her, I'd be a lot more understanding of the majority of posters' sides of this.

In your view, how intimately ought a man to know a woman before offering to be her live in sugar daddy?

I understand what posters are saying about many women resenting the presumption that they are for sale. But the OP isn't presuming, he is asking (or, at least, thinking of asking).

If she feels that put upon by the question, she is free to kick him out for asking. Provided he is willing to accept that risk, I'm unsure what anyone else has to be fussed about.



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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 1:00:14 PM   
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I'm reluctant to judge the situation since I didn't witness it myself,

I'm not, because I have been a barmaid for years, and yeah, telling a patron some sort of sob story is a common way to encourage them to tip better.


There are many triks to make men pay more on tips.
Big boobs get better tips according to mythbusters test with girl in San Francisco.
Another trik is to leave coins under bills (big bills on top but coins and smaller bills on bottom).

Big trik is to put change on tray instead in owners hands so that the poor drinker has to reach far and obviouslie to get his own money back.

Barmaids are full of sleezy triks like that to steal money from drinkers.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 1:04:41 PM   
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Actually, no he doesnt have the right to ask her..

Free speech and all that may color your opinion.


she is at work, she is doing her job.. No sane person doing their job wants to be sexually harassed, at the very least, and at the most, propositioned for sex, at work!!!!!

What dimension do you live in where you find it unreasonable that a bartender (male or female)would not get propositioned for sex...why do you think people become bartenders?






Remind me to never ask you where a good bar is, seriously, if you think it's acceptable to proposition bar staff for sex, you must hang out in some really sleazy joints.

As for why people are bartenders, not to be propositioned by sleezebags for sex, it's usually a job where you earn good money because you're willing to work at a time when others want to party. As a hint, they are the people who serve you drinks, they aren't there to be sexually harassed by anybody. The place your thinking about is generally called a brothel.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 1:11:06 PM   
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Remind me to never ask you where a good bar is, seriously, if you think it's acceptable to proposition bar staff for sex, you must hang out in some really sleazy joints.

I think the sleaze involved is contained solely in him, not the establishments he visits. He's regularly proven as much here.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 1:15:21 PM   
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There are many triks to make men pay more on tips.
Big boobs get better tips according to mythbusters test with girl in San Francisco.
Another trik is to leave coins under bills (big bills on top but coins and smaller bills on bottom).

Big trik is to put change on tray instead in owners hands so that the poor drinker has to reach far and obviouslie to get his own money back.

Barmaids are full of sleezy triks like that to steal money from drinkers.


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 1:53:03 PM   
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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 2:46:57 PM   
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In my opinion, much of the reaction on this thread hinges on their ages or on the idea that a woman would *ever* accept such an arrangement... neither, in my opinion, is good cause for all the fuss and outrage.

If I thought what people were really objecting to was the risk/impropriety of his knowing so little about her, I'd be a lot more understanding of the majority of posters' sides of this.

In your view, how intimately ought a man to know a woman before offering to be her live in sugar daddy?

I understand what posters are saying about many women resenting the presumption that they are for sale. But the OP isn't presuming, he is asking (or, at least, thinking of asking).

If she feels that put upon by the question, she is free to kick him out for asking. Provided he is willing to accept that risk, I'm unsure what anyone else has to be fussed about.



I dont think age has anything to do with it, not for me anyway.. when i was 17 an older guy (in his 30s?) told me I should become a stripper (I think you needed to be 18 to do that job tho).. I was soooo insulted by that, but at least he didnt suggest I become a hooker!!!! He had the good sense not to!

My view on this is if the girl was gonna prostitute herself she should go for the most $$$$ she can to make it worthwhile, not to settle for half a bed and not much more than that.. she wouldnt even have the assurance of having 30 days notice of eviction! I dont have a problem with her doing that at all if that's what she wants to do, only that she should find a real loaded sugar daddy (or several) & get the most she can, and to not sell herself so cheaply, youth & beauty fade, which is no different than the short earning life athletes, actresses, models, etc have..

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 3:37:39 PM   
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Yesterday, Sunday before Memorial Day), late morning. I went to a local bar/restaurant. The bartender knew my name (i still don't know hers.) I was the only one there. So we talked, a lot.

She is from Alaska and Montana; got married to her boyfriend of 4 years who joined the service. They moved to South Carolina and within a year, found out marriage would never work.

This was all before she reached 21!

So now she is tending bar and trying to save for school. She is also studying to become a Manager at the Bar/Restaurant I stopped at. As additional information, she lives alone in an apartment less than a quarter mile from me. Plus, she is struggling to get the money together to buy a laptop for school.

Then I got home and saw in the Detroit Free Press, an article that mentions: arrangements are becoming very popular for young women.

And we all know what an arrangement entails; no?

This morning, I was doing some housework, and the thought occurred to me.

She has no friends or family locally. So why not talk more with her about an arrangement?

My thoughts of course are: she could live with me for free and save the money she earns; we both would share some companionship and comfort; and i could get sex regularly.

Of course when she had every thing worked out in her life; she would be free to go.

Ya know, I kind of liked the idea ... so

Please do share your thoughts; about a 21 year old girl becoming the kept submissive of a 59 year old man. :-) Myself, just love that age range. LOL



No.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 4:38:29 PM   
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There are many triks to make men pay more on tips.

I know, and I'm sure you can't actually teach me any.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 4:40:53 PM   
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In my opinion, much of the reaction on this thread hinges on their ages or on the idea that a woman would *ever* accept such an arrangement

My "objection" was that he is being way too cheap, thinking that room and board would be enough to pay for sex, especially given the differences in their ages.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 5:00:27 PM   
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In my opinion, much of the reaction on this thread hinges on their ages or on the idea that a woman would *ever* accept such an arrangement... neither, in my opinion, is good cause for all the fuss and outrage.

If I thought what people were really objecting to was the risk/impropriety of his knowing so little about her, I'd be a lot more understanding of the majority of posters' sides of this.


What most of the comments have pointed out over and over again is exactly that-he knows nothing about her yet thinks it is okay to approach the topic-which would be a reference to the impropriety of doing so.

Several of the posts have discussed what would be an appropriate amount to offer if such a situation were considered. I believe that one poster has responded indicating that she herself has had such an arrangement. No one is arguing with those.

So i don't think this thread really supports the idea that no woman would ever accept such an offer. But the circumstances surrounding such an offer at this point, as the OP has described, are inappropriate. And that is what has been restated time and time again.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 5:02:08 PM   
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If I thought what people were really objecting to was the risk/impropriety of his knowing so little about her, I'd be a lot more understanding of the majority of posters' sides of this.


That is exactly what my objection is.

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 5:10:43 PM   
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There are many triks to make men pay more on tips. Big boobs get better tips according to mythbusters test with girl in San Francisco.


And exactly whose fault is that?
Is it the woman for planning ahead to grow big boobs so she can get tips, or is it the men who can't think rationally around big boobs that they let go of their money?

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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 5:17:49 PM   
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And exactly whose fault is that?
Is it the woman for planning ahead to grow big boobs so she can get tips, or is it the men who can't think rationally around big boobs that they let go of their money?


Yes, because God knows that a grown ass man has no control when presented with boobs....so it's the woman's fault for having said boobs.


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RE: Why not offer a Young girl, an Arrangement? - 6/1/2016 5:30:08 PM   
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And exactly whose fault is that?
Is it the woman for planning ahead to grow big boobs so she can get tips, or is it the men who can't think rationally around big boobs that they let go of their money?


Yes, because God knows that a grown ass man has no control when presented with boobs....so it's the woman's fault for having said boobs.


Personally I know way too many women who would give a left boob for the chance to plan ahead on their body...and tipping would have very little to do with the process.

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