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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/13/2016 7:24:13 PM   
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there used to be this kink affair here for years, until it closed last year, alcohol was bought, people played, it was mainly for people to show off their outfits and listen to loud music but still no sex allowed, I think simply because every time an event was put on the cops came by to visit and see that everything was legit.

Club X does not have it's own facility - they do not allow alcohol or drugs - even doing it outisde of the event is not allowed. They do not allow sex and tend to be prudish about the scenes that take place. They have strict rules in place about just getting in the door since the arrests.

There are a couple of for rent dungeons in SD, but no public BDSM clubs.

Dragons Gate does not sell alcohol, they do not allow sex...it's also the home base for some Pros, so they try to avoid something that will impede that business.

The Lair allows you to bring your own alcohol, the rules state that sex isn't allowed, but if you're a regular you may be able to sneak into one of the private areas without censure and an act such as the OPrecites would not be tolerated.

I'm not familiar with the other LA clubs, but I can't imagine that they'd be much different ffrom The Lair.



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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/13/2016 10:36:53 PM   
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I have a very long history coming to this forum. The fact is the aggressors don't like getting what they gave:
I also dislike gang mentalities. These are people who follow, unable to make individual decisions. They have to fit in, like school kids.
Can I be brash and straight forward? You bet.
I don't have a need to fit in, I have a need for the good things.
I support Trump because he isn't a follower he is a leader and he calls them as he sees them. His hands are in no ones pocket.
You think I'm an abusive cunt? Who cares.
Your opinion means as much to me as used toilet paper.




So is LadyConstanze and Cinnamongirl67 the same person? They talk a like and say the same things. Both are very opinionated and they attack anyone who disagrees with them.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/13/2016 10:39:20 PM   
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@OsideGirl
I've also been to the Lair de Sade. If one has a premium account and goes to the private parties there is sex. The owners (man and wife) look the other way.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 12:24:10 AM   
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So is LadyConstanze and Cinnamongirl67 the same person? They talk a like and say the same things. Both are very opinionated and they attack anyone who disagrees with them.

MuscleHeadDom, you're an even bigger idiot than you originally appeared to be if you can't tell the difference between our resident drunk and LadyConstanze.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 3:32:32 AM   
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I'm living in a city where we don't have a lot of these places, I think right now the closest thing we have is some sort of BDSM nights at a gay club.

Other than that we have munches and demonstrations at a college downtown.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 6:33:41 AM   
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Don't be dismissive of the fetish nights at gay clubs: I admit they'd never let me into one, so this is speculation and hearsay, but the impression I always get is that a lot of gay tops are way more hardcore about power exchanges than a lot of straight dominants (of either sex) could ever dream of being.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 10:03:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

So is LadyConstanze and Cinnamongirl67 the same person? They talk a like and say the same things. Both are very opinionated and they attack anyone who disagrees with them.

MuscleHeadDom, you're an even bigger idiot than you originally appeared to be if you can't tell the difference between our resident drunk and LadyConstanze.



Like I said, they are one and the same.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 10:48:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom

@OsideGirl
I've also been to the Lair de Sade. If one has a premium account and goes to the private parties there is sex. The owners (man and wife) look the other way.

We've been friends with Kane and Careena (actually know their real names) for a long time. I'm well aware of what happens with SoM, Scorpios and other private events.

However, I was speaking of the general admission nights - which I will say again -

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

The Lair allows you to bring your own alcohol, the rules state that sex isn't allowed, but if you're a regular you may be able to sneak into one of the private areas without censure and an act such as the OP recites would not be tolerated.



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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/14/2016 2:38:43 PM   
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I'm not dismissive I leave it up to the Dominant that I'm involved with, he's one of the old school Dominants, he doesn't feel like the new way of doing BDSM is for him, for me I would actually like to go to something without having to be involved with someone that is an owner to a club, you know a place we can visit, play and then leave without having to spend the whole night there keeping everyone happy.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/17/2016 1:37:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MuscleBoundDom
So is LadyConstanze and Cinnamongirl67 the same person? They talk a like and say the same things. Both are very opinionated and they attack anyone who disagrees with them.

No, you're just unobservant. You completely missed who posted the original statement and the lack of LC including the top quote bracket.



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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/26/2016 10:32:34 PM   
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This sounds like wank dreaming to me.

True I think it's a lie and the op is trolling that or the club doubles as a whore house. Op could at least make it less of a porno and put it in the realm of reality.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/27/2016 3:05:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subbybound

I went to my first BDSM club and it was really nice.
A couple will do a "scene" and you just watch them.

A dominant man tied his submissive (hot female) on a low table, completely nude, face up.
People came by to chat with him and admire his bondage skills.
1. A beautiful woman asked the dominant man permission to eat his submissive out. The submissive chatted with her a while and they agreed.
2. While this woman was eating her out, another woman asked permission and it was granted.
3. After the 1st woman was finished, the 2nd woman began eating her out. She was really rough
4. A 3rd woman asked permission, but her pussy was too sore. So she got on top of her and began kissing her.
5. A 4th woman, pulled her pants off (with permission) and began eating her ass.

Men had to watch the "scenes" but women were able to participate.
Yet, so many women say they don't have it any easier than men.


Get over it.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/27/2016 4:23:04 PM   
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Well I have it from experience that if you're female and underage you can pretty much write your own ticket.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 6/29/2016 5:53:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Well I have it from experience that if you're female and underage you can pretty much write your own ticket.


That is a fact.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/11/2016 10:54:32 PM   
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To sum up this post:

1.) Call OP a Liar.
2.) Discuss random clubs that are probably not the one he went to - to prove that he was a liar.
3.) Cite laws that might not apply - since people break the law, it could've been a private event, he could've moved or been in a different state than his current one.
4.) Fights, name calling for disagreements.

What a shameful community collarspace has become. Actually, wait, no, it has always been pretty bad. Anyways, I'm shocked at how many people call this guy a liar when they have absolutely no idea what he is like. Sure, his story could be made up, but are you willing to bet your own reputation by calling someone else a liar on such fragile 'evidence' as your own experience with a few clubs, or a (potentially) mis-written sentence? He could have been to a private event, or seen it not in the same state that he lives in now (for those law hawks out there). I guess my point is, those who are so quick to admonish others, without good cause, only admonish themselves in the eyes of others.

As for the OP...what a couple decides to do is up to them. The woman doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her. The guy (if he was the one deciding), also doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her. You should know that most male-female couples are looking for another female - so it shouldn't be a surprise to you that, when you see a M/F couple (anywhere), that they are going to allow females to play 99/100 times and men 1/100 times (yes I'm making up numbers - but you get the idea). So, if your standard for treatment of men vs women in BDSM clubs is based on what a (single) M/F couple did, you are thinking about it in the wrong way. I'm not saying there are no differences, but your proof of unequal or inequitable treatment is not valid due to the fact that it was a M/F couple, and like almost all M/F couples, are looking to play with another female (if you were hoping that changed in the kink world - I'm sorry to say it doesn't). Being kinky doesn't change your sexual preferences.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/11/2016 11:54:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ForgetToRemember

To sum up this post:

1.) Call OP a Liar.
2.) Discuss random clubs that are probably not the one he went to - to prove that he was a liar.
3.) Cite laws that might not apply - since people break the law, it could've been a private event, he could've moved or been in a different state than his current one.
4.) Fights, name calling for disagreements.

What a shameful community collarspace has become. Actually, wait, no, it has always been pretty bad. Anyways, I'm shocked at how many people call this guy a liar when they have absolutely no idea what he is like. Sure, his story could be made up, but are you willing to bet your own reputation by calling someone else a liar on such fragile 'evidence' as your own experience with a few clubs, or a (potentially) mis-written sentence? He could have been to a private event, or seen it not in the same state that he lives in now (for those law hawks out there). I guess my point is, those who are so quick to admonish others, without good cause, only admonish themselves in the eyes of others.

As for the OP...what a couple decides to do is up to them. The woman doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her. The guy (if he was the one deciding), also doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her. You should know that most male-female couples are looking for another female - so it shouldn't be a surprise to you that, when you see a M/F couple (anywhere), that they are going to allow females to play 99/100 times and men 1/100 times (yes I'm making up numbers - but you get the idea). So, if your standard for treatment of men vs women in BDSM clubs is based on what a (single) M/F couple did, you are thinking about it in the wrong way. I'm not saying there are no differences, but your proof of unequal or inequitable treatment is not valid due to the fact that it was a M/F couple, and like almost all M/F couples, are looking to play with another female (if you were hoping that changed in the kink world - I'm sorry to say it doesn't). Being kinky doesn't change your sexual preferences.



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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/12/2016 7:33:00 AM   
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ForgetToRemember personally I am abhorred at the majority who present themselves as the lifestyle…I only have issues with sophists, cheats and liars and the majority of the pro element. You will find that makes up 90% of women on these places and 80% of men – there are far more men therefore logically more genuine men….but logically more lying cheating warped of errant porn men beings x factor of 4-20.

As for clubs. They are not, have never been, pick up joints. In my days about 2/3 were men and 1/3 were women who went to these places. And so few went from my lands.

Clubs are, or at last were friendly places – they welcome the single attached married with partners – or without partners present equally.

You simply mail the forum/club and say you will be attending and when you turn up tell them and they will sit you in friendly company

That’s how it was in my day and most of me likes to think it has not changed?


private house parties and private events are a little bit differently

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/12/2016 12:21:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ForgetToRemember
To sum up this post:

1.) Call OP a Liar.

Reading comprehension problems much? A number of people on the thread mentioned that different rules apply to different places, events, etc. Personally, I didn't believe the original because of the logistics, but that's me.

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2.) Discuss random clubs that are probably not the one he went to - to prove that he was a liar.

See above. There are absolutely places that allow sex and some that don't. There are some clubs that only allow sex on certain nights (not general admission) and some that only allow in certain areas.

Discussing randoms clubs is more about people having the opportunity to see that different locations have different rules depending on where you are going. Even if people believed the OP's original, that's not what they should expect to see walking into any random BDSM club. In the USA, even where sex is permitted, there just isn't a lot of clubs permitting (sexual) fluid) transfer because it has the potential to be a huge liability issue.

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3.) Cite laws that might not apply - since people break the law, it could've been a private event, he could've moved or been in a different state than his current one.

If you are keeping up with this stuff, this is exactly the reason why a lot of major events are pulling 'pay at the door' policies. There are enough places where the jurisdiction can be interpreted as paying at the door at the time of the event translates to attendees paying for the privilege of having sex upon entering. This absolutely can work if you're already dealing local authorities that are just itching to find a reason to shut your event down, anyway.

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4.) Fights, name calling for disagreements.

The disagreement part is going to happen because we are dealing with a forum from which people are in various locations, with first hand experiences that are different from others. It happens to be my opinion that if a person is going to a club (not a private party, which is a different thing entirely) dang near every organization has something on the web that will tell a person what is permissible and what is not during a person's attendance.

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What a shameful community collarspace has become. Actually, wait, no, it has always been pretty bad. Anyways, I'm shocked at how many people call this guy a liar when they have absolutely no idea what he is like. Sure, his story could be made up, but are you willing to bet your own reputation by calling someone else a liar on such fragile 'evidence' as your own experience with a few clubs, or a (potentially) mis-written sentence? He could have been to a private event, or seen it not in the same state that he lives in now (for those law hawks out there). I guess my point is, those who are so quick to admonish others, without good cause, only admonish themselves in the eyes of others.

I can roll with that. However, you must see the other side as well. Due to the fact that a high majority of CLUBS (very important word there) even those that deem themselves sex positive do not allow fluid transfer due to the huge liability issue, it's also just as bad to perpetuate the idea that the original story in the OP is going to be happening everywhere. There are certain three day cons that I'd have bought the majority of the story (not the pants part but that's another matter) because the multiple partner happenings are full go. Permanent open to the public types spaces? Not so much.

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As for the OP...what a couple decides to do is up to them. The woman doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her. The guy (if he was the one deciding), also doesn't owe it to anyone to let them touch her.

I'm glad we at least agree on this. Unfortunately, some folks going to clubs haven't gotten this through their heads yet.

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You should know that most male-female couples are looking for another female - so it shouldn't be a surprise to you that, when you see a M/F couple (anywhere), that they are going to allow females to play 99/100 times and men 1/100 times (yes I'm making up numbers - but you get the idea). So, if your standard for treatment of men vs women in BDSM clubs is based on what a (single) M/F couple did, you are thinking about it in the wrong way. I'm not saying there are no differences, but your proof of unequal or inequitable treatment is not valid due to the fact that it was a M/F couple, and like almost all M/F couples, are looking to play with another female (if you were hoping that changed in the kink world - I'm sorry to say it doesn't). Being kinky doesn't change your sexual preferences.

Here, we agree again. I would challenge anyone to find more M/f couples looking for males, rather than females, for darn near anything. This does have to do with personal preference, rather than gender bias. If a person (or couple) is looking to have an encounter with a female, it is not bias or discriminatory for them not to extend the invitation to a male.



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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/12/2016 12:40:38 PM   
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What a shameful community collarspace has become. Actually, wait, no, it has always been pretty bad.

The door's over there, mate.

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RE: Women Have It Better At BDSM Clubs - 7/12/2016 2:43:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ForgetToRemember

2.) Discuss random clubs that are probably not the one he went to - to prove that he was a liar.



Since I live in the same community as the OP, they aren't just random clubs. They are the clubs that are in his community.




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