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CreativeDominant -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:29:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri This guy didn't kill people because he had a gun. Yes he fucking did. Without a gun his opportunity to kill that many people that quickly would be severely compromised. quote: He shot people at a gay nightclub because he could not tolerate homosexuality. He killed people because he decided that his right to choose was more important than theirs. He was probably suffering from some mental health issue in addition to being quite radical in his religious faith. I have not yet read how he got his guns, but that is important. No, it's fucking irrelevant. The ready availability of guns in the USA is directly responsible for this tragedy. Look here's some footage from inside the club when the guy started shooting: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/florida-nightclub-shooting/81030880/florida-shooting-victim-amanda-alvear-posted-video-to-snapchat-as-gunman-attacked Listen to how fast that fucker is firing. If you seriously want to try and tell me that you have a constitutional right and need for a gun which fires that fast, then I'll confidently proclaim you as fucking insane. Guns like that do not belong in the hands of the citizenry. Period. In your...and other similar-minded individuals'...opinion, no they don't. However, in others' opinion, they do. Law comes down on their side. Many times. Whine about it all you want...or take it in front of the Supreme Court. Maybe try that "listen how fast that fucker was firing" argument. Don't mention though that that was only the skill...talent...whatever of the shooter with a SEMI-automatic weapon.

Lucylastic -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:30:17 PM)
LOL innocent till proven guilty or is that only for white americans? There is still no proof that he is part of an isis cell, or that he was instructed by isis... wheres the 911 call pledging allegience? have you heard it, seen it? If they found nothing you would prefer he go to jail, on suspision ? ? The fact that he could buy guns freely and that republicans down voted background checks IS the problem But of course you refuse to see it Funny he didnt carry a swimming pool into the club with him go on say it, only a good guy with a gun could have stopped this, or concealed carry. Go full trump and blame obama and that he was right...stopping muslims coming in wouldnt have stopped this. The fbi could have held him and tortured him, it wouldnt have stopped the howell bloke, who caught with guns n explosives.. if he had managed to kill a bunch of people at a pride parade he still woulda been a democrat. fuck off you sickening jerk .

PeonForHer -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:32:05 PM)
quote: I'm beginning to think you're completely full of shit and don't understand the first thing about political science. You wouldn't know, Awareness. If there was a thing before the first thing to be understood about political science, you haven't yet learned it. Sorry old son, but it really is pretty obvious. Next.

Lucylastic -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:33:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic he could still have bought a gun... Even if he had been on the no fly list. why? Because they wouldn't let him carry a gun onto a plane in his hand luggage. Obvs. They won't let anyone carry a gun onto a plane in their hand luggage, didn't you know that. dont hurt yourself idiot. I love it when sarcasm is so good, idiots believe it.

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:33:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri This guy didn't kill people because he had a gun. Yes he fucking did. Without a gun his opportunity to kill that many people that quickly would be severely compromised. quote: He shot people at a gay nightclub because he could not tolerate homosexuality. He killed people because he decided that his right to choose was more important than theirs. He was probably suffering from some mental health issue in addition to being quite radical in his religious faith. I have not yet read how he got his guns, but that is important. No, it's fucking irrelevant. The ready availability of guns in the USA is directly responsible for this tragedy. Look here's some footage from inside the club when the guy started shooting: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/florida-nightclub-shooting/81030880/florida-shooting-victim-amanda-alvear-posted-video-to-snapchat-as-gunman-attacked Listen to how fast that fucker is firing. If you seriously want to try and tell me that you have a constitutional right and need for a gun which fires that fast, then I'll confidently proclaim you as fucking insane. Guns like that do not belong in the hands of the citizenry. Period. Obviously you don't remember the nightclub in NJ were someone killed more people than this by chaining the door and lighting off gasoline. If he was firing full auto his firearm was illegal, any semi auto fires fast, but he wouldn't be aiming. And yes there is no reason to ban them from the citizenry. Do you realize that this is 100 year old technology?

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:40:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: BamaD And there are far more Moslems who follow this creed than there ever were Klansmen. Let me guess???you took math at the university of dumbass didn't you? How many muslims are there and how many klansman are there? Jesus you are phoquing stupid.[8\|] Estimates have approximately as many followers of radical Islam as there are people in the US So my statement is a slam dunk sure fire fact. You really don't know much about anything do you.

Awareness -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:46:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD If he was firing full auto his firearm was illegal, any semi auto fires fast, but he wouldn't be aiming. And yes there is no reason to ban them from the citizenry. Do you realize that this is 100 year old technology? The Constitution is over 225 years old. The second amendment was written with muskets in mind. You have to be completely incompetent to think that the founding fathers intended the citizens to arm themselves with AR-15's.

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:47:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: BamaD Honest answer, the .223 isn't much beyond a varmit round. Is that why the military uses them to kill people? Jesus you are phoquing stupid. The military uses it to disable people. Remember your rant about how shooting a person in the foot is as effective as killing. The term varmit round, as anyone as smart as you think you are, refers to the type af game you are allowed to hunt with the round. The .223 is not allowed to use for hunting much beyond ground hog. Again if you knew as much as you claim you would know that. It is not considered big enough to hunt anything like deer, which puts it below such "power houses" as the .45 colt and the 30-30.

Lucylastic -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:50:43 PM)
yet it managed to shoot maim, injure and kill how many people?

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:51:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice FR Another sobering read: http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/ They are subhuman scum no matter what group they belong to. I think you missed the point. This article proves that all right wingers are bastards because the ones pointed out in the article are bastards. And the worst part is those bastards are pointing to a few muslims and claiming their actions speak for the whole of islam. That also proves that the right wingers are all islamaphobes because the ones pointed out in the article are islamaphobes. Simple once you think about it. Not everyone can tell you are being sarcastic.

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:54:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: BamaD The last thing like this that was committed by Christions was when over 100 blacks wefe lynched in the streets of NYC. You are a lying sack of shit...never happened....11 body bags in five days...mr. mensa elligible. https://theclio.com/web/entry?id=12837 It only ended when Meade Forced marched his troops from Gettysburg to NYC to pit an end to it. That was 1863. Not exactly...meade did not do shit. But several militia units were returned to nyc from fredrick md. Here we go again, your opinion against the facts presented by the head of the history department with a PHD from Notra Dame, you still lose.

WickedsDesire -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:57:45 PM)
Such sadness. Woe is me I am becoming immune. Mass shootings USA: There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker, which catalogues such incidents. A mass shooting is defined as a single shooting incident which kills or injures four or more people, including the assailant. Population of wicked town is about 10 000, number killed with guns per year in usa 40 000. That is killed not injured. If you are pedantic then 32,000 you may cite but it will be higher. Mass shooting in the UK 2015: none (double checks) None since 2010. >3.3 million AR-15s in the US . 45 rounds per minute. 0 days' wait needed to obtain one in Florida that statement takes care of itself. I am surprised it does not happen more often everywhere. But cometh has that day/epoch/era Wicked rantish time. Your American gun laws fucking sicken me to my very core. If I had to pick just one country. James(it no secret who I am) mind thought, as they initially reported 20 deaths, firstly 1 injury i am always appalled was not truly shocked or surprised by that. Just another one of those hundreds of mass shootings occurring particularly in America annually..a few hours later, on the bbc, 50 they said a day later they said 49...overlooking the badly critically injured. My thoughts are many but i will go with the initial basics: >3.3 million AR-15s in the US . 45 rounds per minute. 0 days' wait needed to obtain one in Florida that statement takes care of itself. How did he get it into the club is question 1 I have seen not asked anywhere His dear father said I could not believe it myself for sanity still touches even mehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36514608 His ex partner said, cannot find the clip said, he was prone to outburst of abuse - not a particularly uncommon occurrence from huwmans the world over but 50(49) from 40 000 per annum is a feeble 0.1% and no-on mentioned within the same breath the other 99.9% equally appal me I give you feeble minds, NRA, all you fuking gun nuts on here, and there, and your piece of shittery that calls itself Right to keep and bear arms- and anyone who has ever defended their mis reading off it (interpretation) over looking the fact it was written in a bygone era for specific purposes

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 1:59:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic LOL innocent till proven guilty or is that only for white americans? There is still no proof that he is part of an isis cell, or that he was instructed by isis... wheres the 911 call pledging allegience? have you heard it, seen it? If they found nothing you would prefer he go to jail, on suspision ? ? The fact that he could buy guns freely and that republicans down voted background checks IS the problem But of course you refuse to see it Funny he didnt carry a swimming pool into the club with him go on say it, only a good guy with a gun could have stopped this, or concealed carry. Go full trump and blame obama and that he was right...stopping muslims coming in wouldnt have stopped this. The fbi could have held him and tortured him, it wouldnt have stopped the howell bloke, who caught with guns n explosives.. if he had managed to kill a bunch of people at a pride parade he still woulda been a democrat. fuck off you sickening jerk . He claimed ISIS, ISIS claimed him.

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:01:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic he could still have bought a gun... Even if he had been on the no fly list. why? Because they wouldn't let him carry a gun onto a plane in his hand luggage. Obvs. They won't let anyone carry a gun onto a plane in their hand luggage, didn't you know that. dont hurt yourself idiot. I love it when sarcasm is so good, idiots believe it. Come on now I have seen dumber things than that. For example she stated that there are no gun laws in the U S. After that you kind of have to thing she means anything she says.

AgentBlack -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:01:44 PM)
My god aint muslim. Im not politically correct. i'm free. Constitution Trumps All. Live Free or Die Nightclub needed 2 good guys with a gun. problem would have been neutralized faster. lives would have been saved. D Trump on tv BASED TRUMP This country needs more people that are not afraid to be politically incorrect. Why? because thats our freedom. Dont forget history. freedom is the one thing we'll always fight for. history shows what happens to those that dont. i was taught we get a new potus 4-8 years in this democracy... all i seen in this country is the same 2 families in the whitehouse for the past 30 years...smells like oligarchy to me. Time for Trump. Liberty.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:05:53 PM)
quote: The Constitution is over 225 years old. The second amendment was written with muskets in mind. You have to be completely incompetent to think that the founding fathers intended the citizens to arm themselves with AR-15's. Actually it was written with rifles in mind, and I am pretty sure that the founders fully intended the citizens to arm themselves with the best weapons they could acquire, seeing as they were expected to use those weapons to defend the state.

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:07:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD If he was firing full auto his firearm was illegal, any semi auto fires fast, but he wouldn't be aiming. And yes there is no reason to ban them from the citizenry. Do you realize that this is 100 year old technology? The Constitution is over 225 years old. The second amendment was written with muskets in mind. You have to be completely incompetent to think that the founding fathers intended the citizens to arm themselves with AR-15's. No more incompitant than you have to be to belive that freedom of the Press extends beyond the hand presses of the day. That Freedom of speach extends to TV, radio, or online. To accept that arguement you have to think that noting developed after 1790 is protected by the the constitution. Did you know that before the revolution there were 20 round rifles that were so deadly that some countries had any soldier caught with one executed on the spot? Did you know that under the 2nd you were allowed cannon. Of course you don't know these things because they would fracture you world view.

Lucylastic -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:07:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic he could still have bought a gun... Even if he had been on the no fly list. why? Because they wouldn't let him carry a gun onto a plane in his hand luggage. Obvs. They won't let anyone carry a gun onto a plane in their hand luggage, didn't you know that. dont hurt yourself idiot. I love it when sarcasm is so good, idiots believe it. Come on now I have seen dumber things than that. For example she stated that there are no gun laws in the U S. After that you kind of have to thing she means anything she says. she? who is she? Well to be fair, with the way you post, anything you say is far more intensely stupid...it surely cant count as sarcasm, because you believe it. there is a difference

BamaD -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:09:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire Such sadness. Woe is me I am becoming immune. Mass shootings USA: There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker, which catalogues such incidents. A mass shooting is defined as a single shooting incident which kills or injures four or more people, including the assailant. Population of wicked town is about 10 000, number killed with guns per year in usa 40 000. That is killed not injured. If you are pedantic then 32,000 you may cite but it will be higher. Mass shooting in the UK 2015: none (double checks) None since 2010. >3.3 million AR-15s in the US . 45 rounds per minute. 0 days' wait needed to obtain one in Florida that statement takes care of itself. I am surprised it does not happen more often everywhere. But cometh has that day/epoch/era Wicked rantish time. Your American gun laws fucking sicken me to my very core. If I had to pick just one country. James(it no secret who I am) mind thought, as they initially reported 20 deaths, firstly 1 injury i am always appalled was not truly shocked or surprised by that. Just another one of those hundreds of mass shootings occurring particularly in America annually..a few hours later, on the bbc, 50 they said a day later they said 49...overlooking the badly critically injured. My thoughts are many but i will go with the initial basics: >3.3 million AR-15s in the US . 45 rounds per minute. 0 days' wait needed to obtain one in Florida that statement takes care of itself. How did he get it into the club is question 1 I have seen not asked anywhere His dear father said I could not believe it myself for sanity still touches even mehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36514608 His ex partner said, cannot find the clip said, he was prone to outburst of abuse - not a particularly uncommon occurrence from huwmans the world over but 50(49) from 40 000 per annum is a feeble 0.1% and no-on mentioned within the same breath the other 99.9% equally appal me I give you feeble minds, NRA, all you fuking gun nuts on here, and there, and your piece of shittery that calls itself Right to keep and bear arms- and anyone who has ever defended their mis reading off it (interpretation) over looking the fact it was written in a bygone era for specific purposes To be a mass shooting you need 4 dead people, your argument collapes as soon as you start.

AgentBlack -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/13/2016 2:10:58 PM)
Absolutly.

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