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Nnanji -> RE: Mass Shooting in Florida (6/14/2016 5:02:16 PM)
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Actually, from what you've just said, you know nothing about the NRA. You'll need to google again. And...yes...if you try to argue it I'll make you look like you're talking out of your ass again. So back pedal now, stop now, or be an igit. You choose.
Dude, the NRA is a political organisation which advances the cause of firearm manufacturers. Oh, they sweep up the gun-nuts because people whose sense of manhood is tied up in their weapons equate gun control with castration - but make no mistake, the NRA is about keeping the populace afraid and selling them more guns.
Or haven't you noticed that the NRA's solution to everything is: "More guns"?
Believe me, if you're trying to argue the NRA has any fucking credibility whatsoever then you're the one who's going to make a fucking fool of yourself. Their lies and propaganda are legendary.
I agreed with you earlier that when Lucy just laughes at you it wasn't a response and did show her ignorance. It's tough now not to do the same. I'm not going to google here, but as I last recall the NOW national organization of women had something like a couple of hundred members and the NRA had six million. Right because the NRA will never exaggerate their number of members will they? And we shouldn't point out that NRA members are actually a tiny minority of gun owners either, should we? Or that the income it received from membership dues fell by 27% in 2014?
And for reference, NOW claims to have around half a million members.... like you, I presume they're exaggerating but I'm guessing "a couple of hundred" is probably really not close to accurate.
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Just on that basis alone, the organization you describe above is absurd. If what you propose were true those in the gun culture would leave the organization in droves. Well based on the numbers, the NRA membership represents only 5% of the gun-owning community. So it doesn't exactly sound like a representative voice for gun owners.,
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Having actually been a member of and reading NRA material for years I can't recall that the NRA's answer is always more guns, so please provide a link for that. I'm betting you can't or won't, you'll back pedal. You mean the NRA's response to National Gun Violence Day which was "go to the range and splurge on a new gun" wasn't about more guns? Sure seems like it.
Or their response to Sandy Hook which was "put armed police officers in every school" while blaming music videos and video games., no that definitely didn't happen. Although it did and it sure seems a lot like "moar guns!"
Or their response to Virgina Tech which was "put armed security guards in schools" and then later attack the relatives of the victims because they advocated for gun control.
And of course, the NRA itself and its political lobbying arm "the NRA Institute for Legislative Action" would never take money from the firearms industry, now would they? Oh wait... they do.
And let's not mention how the NRA - after every single fucking one of these tragedies - insists "it's not time to talk about gun control - let the victims grieve". Shortly after which, they induce a panic that "the Democrats are going to take everyone's guns" so the idiot men-children of the NRA will go out and buy more weapons. Which they do. Because they're easily led.
Also, could you explain to me why the NRA wants suspected terrorists to be able to buy guns?. Just a quick explanation of why the guys we won't let on planes should be able to buy assault weapons. C'mon dude, that should be an easy one.
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Please provide links to their lies and propaganda as well. I know leftist fascists say that is so, but I've never seen it proven as more than leftist koolaide BS. So, have you been at the koolaide?
Look, it's your own Wayne La Pierre who insists “only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun", despite a study of active shootings between 2002 and 2013 showing that in only 3.1% of cases did intervention by armed individuals who were not law enforcement actually end the incident. That's less than the success rate by unarmed citizens (13.1%) and much less than the shooter ending the incident through suicide (23.1%). The idea that armed citizens are going to prevent shootings is a fucking fantasy.
Had enough? Because these fucking clowns have hung themselves over and over again and anyone who really thinks the NRA is not a tool of the firearm manufacturers is clearly two sandwiches short of a picnic.
You're boring me. You dodge around facts because you don't want to admit you're wrong or ignorant to begin with. Hey, I have no problem with you having an anti-gun prejudice. Have at it. But, you really don't know enough to argue that point.
Ya, I meant to type a couple of hundred thousand. One fact you've gotten correct. You really are better at arguing feminism.
Most of your quotes above are from mediamatters. An organization established to lie and lean left. Whatever they say shouldn't be part of objective debate. And, having said that, I don't discount leftist news organizations like some leftists discount conservative news organization.
Your Washington Post thing decrying the NRA suggesting putting armed police in schools is completely contrary to what all of the leftist in my part of California are doing. They are doing exactly what the NRA suggested.
Your Slate article decries statements like this from the NRA:
"After the April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech shootings that killed 32 people: “The NRA joins the entire country in expressing our deepest condolences to the families of Virginia Tech University and everyone else affected by this horrible tragedy. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families."
To me it sounds exactly like the 72-hour rule here. Besides, Obama and other leftists always do break that rule using the tragedies to call for more government control. So I gotta go with the NRA here, it's reasonable to me.
Your NYDailwyNews article is biased and one sided. There are well known, and huge, flaws in that system. It's now come down to people like Hillary using it as politics rather than fixing it. If the NRA doesn't want Americans to loose rights because of an incompetent government, why is that a problem to you?
I haven't had enough because your only quotes were nonsense posted by media matters and leftist opinion articles that contain no facts and don't discuss both sides of the issue. Rather I'd ask you, why are you basing your thoughts on leftist opinion that isn't rooted in any fact. I think you should be having enough.
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