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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:11:27 PM   
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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:11:48 PM   
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In that saying, since you admit your error about McCarthy and MacAuther,


I did no such thing. I admitted my error about McCarthy vs. MacArthur. Never did I say "Macauther." I made an error on the name in my first post, owned up to it immediately after, by my own recognition, not yours. You've made an error on the name in every post since. By your account of things, that alone makes anything accompanied thereby just a bunch of hooey.


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politics created a major blunder by not merely repulsing the NK but by pushing them back to the Chinese border. The implication being it was a stupid political decision.


I never mentioned anything about politics in any post on the matter. I called it a military cock-up from start to finish.




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Since you weren't there at the time to have superior political knowledge,


So you were, then? Enlighten the rest of us, if you would.

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Your original assertion was you knew better than MacAuthor and Truman
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You are welcome to copy/paste where I said that. In any event, the observation of many close to the matter at the time was that MacArthur thought he knew better than anybody in Washington, whether Truman or the Joint Chiefs of Staff.




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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:14:59 PM   
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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:15:14 PM   
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Next they'll compare spewing bullets to sneezing on someone to kill them with a virus.

Asian bird flu?

Smallpox, anthrax.


You can't spread anthrax by sneezing.

As for smallpox, it has gone, more than likely for good. Worry about monkeypox instead.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:19:23 PM   
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Next they'll compare spewing bullets to sneezing on someone to kill them with a virus.

Asian bird flu?

Smallpox, anthrax.


You can't spread anthrax by sneezing.

As for smallpox, it has gone, more than likely for good. Worry about monkeypox instead.

Unless someone deliberately introduces it.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:23:40 PM   
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Very sad, folks. Very sad.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:26:29 PM   
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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:27:19 PM   
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I'd be OK with a misguided law against that.



What, you'd rather stand there and watch it?

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:30:14 PM   
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All of which pale in comparison to the American genocide of the native population. Face it, mass slaughter is a part of your cultural mythology, you make heroes of mass murderers.


Oh, the spiritual purity of Canadians ...

One could only expect this from a people who deliberately chose to inhabit a land with no people inhabitants before their arrival.

It remains a mystery today why the British and French were such arseholes in the colonies, yet such angels north of the river.

Whence the Canadian angels of today.


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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:30:18 PM   
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Next they'll compare spewing bullets to sneezing on someone to kill them with a virus.

Asian bird flu?

Smallpox, anthrax.


You can't spread anthrax by sneezing.

As for smallpox, it has gone, more than likely for good. Worry about monkeypox instead.

Unless someone deliberately introduces it.


If you think that procuring and spreading anthrax, a highly treatable illness that effects a lot of people frequently and is rather difficult to weaponize, is in any way comparable to going into a shop and buying a death machine that can destroy 40 lives in a few seconds then you're not dealing with objective reality anymore.

I don't object to gun ownership, I object to dishonesty. Just be honest - your right to own a gun is more sacred to you than the lives of other people. Nobody who wants to own a gun can possibly believe otherwise unless they are out of touch with sanity.

It's time the USA either dealt with the problem or put the argument to bed by saying "mass killings is part of who we are, this is America, get used to gun deaths because we don't give a shit". Trying to pretend that the ability to procure an assault rifle is good for society in the face of recent events is pathetic.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 3:38:08 PM   
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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 5:35:34 PM   
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Japan's culture is different than ours.

Evidently: Japan isn't full of infantile paranoid imbeciles.

Well one thing we do know about Japan. If any of those people are around, they don't have assault weapons or much in the way of guns like in the US and certainly can't exercise their infantile paranoid imbecilities on others with such weapons.



They do, however, have a good few mass murders with knives, as does China.

Care to compare the body counts these knife wielding Japanese mass murderers manage, as compared to the trivial numbers a comparable American mass murderer can manage with a gun?
How many of these Japanese mass murderers stabbed 49 people to death before being apprehended?

How many Americans with guns did it, one.



If we are talking about body counts at schools, I believe the bomb in Bath still holds the record. Funny no one ever mentions that one.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 5:38:32 PM   
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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 5:53:19 PM   
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I read the thread-title and immediately thought, 'International study of frogs' arses finds strong evidence that they're water-tight' ....

OK, OK, I'll go back and read the comments. I have a suspicionette that various posters will have vigorous criticisms of this study's findings.


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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 6:02:17 PM   
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You Brits keep coming up with all these gems that are just new to Americans but 200-600 years old to your culture.

(Writes down carefully ... "tighter than a frog's arse!")

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 6:38:56 PM   
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I'd be OK with a misguided law against that.



What, you'd rather stand there and watch it?


Well, well.

Look who's beginning to get the point.




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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 7:05:48 PM   
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All of which pale in comparison to the American genocide of the native population. Face it, mass slaughter is a part of your cultural mythology, you make heroes of mass murderers.


Oh, the spiritual purity of Canadians ...

One could only expect this from a people who deliberately chose to inhabit a land with no people inhabitants before their arrival.

It remains a mystery today why the British and French were such arseholes in the colonies, yet such angels north of the river.

Whence the Canadian angels of today.




The Canadian Holocaust Genocide Of The Indian Peoples In Canada
http://www.akha.org/content/humanrightsdocs/thecanadiangenocide.html

Canada Was Killing Indians, Not Cultures
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/opinion/Canada-Was-Killing-Indians-Not-Cultures-20150608-0018.html

List of massacres in Canada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Canada



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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 7:17:15 PM   
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I'd be OK with a misguided law against that.



What, you'd rather stand there and watch it?


Well, well.

Look who's beginning to get the point.





The point being that you'd rather stand there watching children be stabbed than be able to maybe, I don't know, make the murderer stop stabbing the children? What color is the sky on your planet?


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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 7:19:14 PM   
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Here is the O'reilly argument and solutions, and I think he make sense.
From a realistic point of view, the US is never going to be gun free, forever! Constitution cannot change. So total banning is not possible.

1) The law should make it illegal for those on terrorist watch list to buy guns. And seriously implement this ASAP!
2) The law should make it compulsory for gun shops to report the details of people buying heavy weapons. Just for the FBI to monitor and take note. Not hand guns, but weapons identified as more high powered than a hand gun.
3) Congress needs to debate and go through what kind of rifles are a bigger danger to the public and not necessary for personal protection and ban those. Just like why hand grenades are banned and bazookas are banned, even though it can be used for personal protection but it's viewed as more dangerous to the public and public safety comes first.

When Australia started their gun ban in the past 20 years ago, the gun murder rate fell 70%.
In the same period of time, the murder rate with guns in the US has fallen 30%. And the shootings have fallen 60%.
Gun problems going down and not up despite no gun ban.
Reason is federal mandatory tough sentences given out to violent criminals.

So the solution is, ALL gun crimes, including illegal sale of guns, should be a federal offense with mandatory sentences! The 2nd amendment does not give the right to people to use guns for crime. So for example, when you rob a 7/11 with a gun, not only do you get in trouble for robbery, but an additional charge for misusing the gun for crimes. Like compulsory 10 years in jail for misusing gun for crime, federal instated level, on top of whatever state's law is for robbery.

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RE: International study of gun control finds strong evi... - 6/15/2016 7:27:07 PM   
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I am grateful that nuclear weapon manufacturers do not have a powerful lobby in Washington because if they did it would be ok for people on the terror watchlist to buy nuclear weapons.

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