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Musicmystery -> International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:04:34 PM)

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:06:55 PM)

Of course it fucking works, only an idiot would argue otherwise. The question for the US is not if it works, but rathr if it is too late. And it is far too late.




Musicmystery -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:07:38 PM)

Based on what evidence? Cite please.




Nnanji -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:22:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.


Of course, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, even boy Castro enacted strict gun control laws that all worked well. Well, unless Che Was lining you up against a wall. I invite you to find such a place and enjoy it's nirvana.




mnottertail -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:32:08 PM)

Not Hitler he loosened the hell out of them except for Jews.





WhoreMods -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:36:07 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.


Of course, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, even boy Castro enacted strict gun control laws that all worked well. Well, unless Che Was lining you up against a wall. I invite you to find such a place and enjoy it's nirvana.

Right, so Japan's strict gun laws have led to which problems besides dropping the number of murders, then?




MrRodgers -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 1:48:32 PM)

Not to mention Australia which now after 20 years, there has seen no such mass shootings as we see in the US and a 50% decline on gun violence.

Face it kinkroids, we have a strong, rich, gun lobby and a plutocracy that sells out to that gun lobby in the NRA and a...gun loving culture in the US that feels it necessary to have such guns whose only purpose is...to kill many people.

Results are in. You get 15 mass shootings in less than 8 years and 103 people killed or wounded in one short attack.




Awareness -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 3:01:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.


Of course, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, even boy Castro enacted strict gun control laws that all worked well. Well, unless Che Was lining you up against a wall. I invite you to find such a place and enjoy it's nirvana.
Alarmist NRA propaganda.




kdsub -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 3:10:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.


Of course, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, even boy Castro enacted strict gun control laws that all worked well. Well, unless Che Was lining you up against a wall. I invite you to find such a place and enjoy it's nirvana.


So Nnanji.... you believe in your heart that if reasonable and sensible gun laws are enacted to keep guns away from the insane and criminal element that your elected government will try to enslave you?

Butch




Nnanji -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:04:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Not Hitler he loosened the hell out of them except for Jews.



I believe you're wrong. As a matter of fact a lot of the language the American left tries to use to limit guns comes directly from Hitler's laws.




Musicmystery -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:06:16 PM)

Cite.




Nnanji -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:13:41 PM)

For you...no. I don't run around doing the bidding of igits.

For MNottertails, who when he is on his meds sometimes has some relevant information:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

Few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the 1930s.[1] The Weimar Republic had strict gun control laws.[7] When the Third Reich gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened, such as allowing ownership for Nazi party members and the military.[4]:672 The laws were harshened in other ways. Nazi laws disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for "ordinary" German citizens.[4]:670,676 The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries.[8]:533,536


In a 2000 article, author and attorney Stephen Halbrook said that he was presenting "the first scholarly analysis of the use of gun control laws and policies to establish the Hitler regime and to render political opponents and especially German Jews defenseless."[8]:485 In the article, he cites an Adolf Hitler quote: "the most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."[8]:483[11]:403 In his 2013 book, Halbrook adds that such victims might have successfully resisted Nazi repression if they had been armed — or better armed.[12]




Musicmystery -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:15:13 PM)

But that's not your claim. Where's the borrowed language?




Nnanji -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:16:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/29/11120184/gun-control-study-international-evidence

Santaella-Tenorio's study (co-authored with Columbia professors Magdalena Cerdá and Sandro Galea, as well as the University of North Carolina's Andrés Villaveces) examined roughly 130 studies that had been conducted in 10 different countries. Each of those 130 studies had looked at some specific change in gun laws and its effect on homicide and/or suicide rates. Most of those 130 studies looked at law changes in the developed world, such as the US, Australia, and Austria. A few looked at gun laws in developing countries, specifically Brazil and South Africa.

This isn't, then, a study that compiled its own original data on one specific gun law. It's actually more valuable than that: It's telling us what all the different studies on individual laws say when you examine them put together.

So what do Santaella-Tenorio et al. conclude? First, and most importantly, that gun violence declined after countries pass a raft of gun laws at the same time: "The simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths," the study finds.


Of course, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, even boy Castro enacted strict gun control laws that all worked well. Well, unless Che Was lining you up against a wall. I invite you to find such a place and enjoy it's nirvana.
Alarmist NRA propaganda.


Well, since you can't argue facts on the subject, I suppose it's reasonable for you to go there. Have at it.




Nnanji -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:17:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

But that's not your claim. Where's the borrowed language?


I told you, I don't step and fetch it for idiots.




WhoreMods -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:20:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

But that's not your claim. Where's the borrowed language?


I told you, I don't step and fetch it for idiots.

You're not obliged to prove anything, then, but anybody who says anything you disagree with or dislike is.
How precious.




dcnovice -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:25:04 PM)

FR

Interesting read. Thanks, Muse!




mnottertail -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 4:32:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

For you...no. I don't run around doing the bidding of igits.

For MNottertails, who when he is on his meds sometimes has some relevant information:



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_gun_control_theory

Few citizens owned, or were entitled to own firearms in Germany in the 1930s.[1] The Weimar Republic had strict gun control laws.[7] When the Third Reich gained power, some aspects of gun regulation were loosened, such as allowing ownership for Nazi party members and the military.[4]:672 The laws were harshened in other ways. Nazi laws disarmed "unreliable" persons, especially Jews, but relaxed restrictions for "ordinary" German citizens.[4]:670,676 The policies were later expanded to include the confiscation of arms in occupied countries.[8]:533,536


In a 2000 article, author and attorney Stephen Halbrook said that he was presenting "the first scholarly analysis of the use of gun control laws and policies to establish the Hitler regime and to render political opponents and especially German Jews defenseless."[8]:485 In the article, he cites an Adolf Hitler quote: "the most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms."[8]:483[11]:403 In his 2013 book, Halbrook adds that such victims might have successfully resisted Nazi repression if they had been armed — or better armed.[12]


When nnanji-wilburs mouth is full of felch, or when its empty, hes still a fucking cretin of the highest order. No wonder he is a drug addled addict and an inmate of a mental institution.

Here though is what old AL actually said (Tabletalk 41-44, cant remember the entire title): The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjugated races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjugated races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police.

So, Halbrook like Wilbur is a conniving lying nutsucker.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 6:10:07 PM)

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Based on what evidence?

Fucking reality

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Cite please.

Sure...
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=united%20states

I'll send you your bill for basic Google services.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: International study of gun control finds strong evidence it works (6/14/2016 6:11:44 PM)

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I believe you're wrong.

And your belief is wrong
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As a matter of fact a lot of the language the American left tries to use to limit guns comes directly from Hitler's laws.

And you are wrong yet again.




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