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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:08:54 PM   
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Cowards bother me for one reason.
Do you know who Bob Ford was.

He murdered a murdering punk.

Do you know how Bill Hickock died.

He was starving to death when jack mccall put a bullet in the back of his head and put him out of his misery.


Cowards will stab you in the back.
As far as I am concered bullies are also cowards as you say they make themselves feel important by picking on people they don't think can or will fight back. Bullies always feel abused by me because they routinely don't think I will fight back and when they cross the line, usually going after someone else (not always a friend of mine) they find out that I can play thier rules better than they can.

Are you the lone ranger in disguise?


They always claim that I tricked them into a confrontation. They never come back for 2nds.

I am still here and so is ron.




You should know I was talking about a face to face.


Is there something you can say face to face that cannot be said here???or is what you have to say face to face beyond the tos?

You are welcom to come visit

That is not the issue. The issue is that you said I was anonymous when in fact I am not. Should you wish to contact me in person let me know and I will leave a pass at the gate with the mp's I am there most thursdays.


maybe both of you should come together so it will almost be a fair fight.

Why do you feel it necessary to threaten me with physical violence?



I don't like dealing with you here,


No one is forcing you to type a response to anything I post.

why would I spend money to go to an insane state to meet someone I detest.

Even a riffer e5 can fly space a on all military flights for free and there is a shuttle bus from nas miramar to mcrd several times a day.

You are assuming violence, maybe I will let you to work together on a chess game.
Your the one who seems to want violence. And I wouldn't cross the street to meet you.

The only people I would harm are those trying to harm me, or someone I am protecting.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:13:52 PM   
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"http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-mom-kills-daughters-20160627-snap-story.html

Texas police fatally shoot woman who killed her two daughters "


NRA member ? If so I guess that's three.

Just a few days ago you were sure there were none?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:15:31 PM   
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"I am still here and so is ron. "

Yup, the dungeon, specifically made for people who would thrown the fuck off here if the posted in any other groups the kind of shit they post here.

What is your point?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:17:13 PM   
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Actually, it doesn't. A convict is a person who's been convicted by a court of law, and you remain a convict in that sense after your release from the big house.


Not in colloquial usage. The term "ex-convict" is usually used.

Is that in the same sense that "really unique" is used colloquialy?

Technically you are right,

Yes those of us who speak english know that.

but in the real world a word means what people take it to mean.


Up for down???right for wrong????"we don need no stinkin dictionaries"


But a true ex-convict would be someone who has their record expunged or wins on appeal, though that might not even be technically correct.

Check with an adult it is technically correct.


It could be claimed that once the jury says guilty that is it. But that is not how people take it. You have to consider that.

While it is obvious that you must consider that, those of us who wish to communicate effectively use real words with agreed upon definitions.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:19:03 PM   
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But is she, and was it a comembership with her husband or is it like we have seen time after time, a shooter is declared to be a Repuclican NRA member and then when things simmer down it turns out not to be true. I can see it.
the cops get there, the shooting breaks out, one of the cops calls a time out and says "the most important thing we have to know is Are you an NRA member? Ok resume firing." Did the NRA announce her membership, did someone illegally hack thier membership files. Maybe she had NRA member tattoed on her forhead. It would seem that this would be so far down the cops list of priorities that is would come in after her position in the PTA. She may have been an NRA but then again this may be one of those proclimations that always come out and then prove to be false.


Perhaps it was her face book posting saying she was? Perhaps she was waynes love child?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:23:19 PM   
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You are assuming violence,


You are the one who said

"maybe both of you should come together so it will almost be a fair fight."

That looks suspiciously like an invitation to physical violence.
How is it that you cannot carry on a discussion like someone who claims to be "mensa elligible" instead of some two digit iq street thug?




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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:24:35 PM   
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I can have an argument in person, but if it gets physical I don;t fight, I shoot.

Do you live in a movie script?


Do you live in reality ? My guns are real and are loaded.

Come on over, want the address ?

What on earth would I do with the address of a chairborn ranger?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:29:51 PM   
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When you look at these mass shooters, I defy you to find one that was an NRA member. What's more, I defy you to find many that were not on some sort of prescribed psyche drug.

Are NRA members screened for psycho-pharmaceuticals?

Was Christy Sheats a drug taking NRA member?

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“It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away,” the 42-year-old wrote in March on her Facebook page, “but that’s exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns.”



Actually to my knowledge NRA members are not screened unless they try to buy liability insurance through one of their advertisers. I imagine and insurance actuary would practically demand it.

Now if she was on psyche drugs that should show up on a background check and that would mean no gun. However she did not use a new Glock, they said I think a five shot. Those are revolvers and most of them were made in the early 1900s, so there is no record of them. It could have been in her Grampa's dresser drawer when he died. No amount of gun control can stop that unless there is a door to door search across the country tearing out people's walls n shit, forcing them to open their safe if they have one and skulking around the basement looking up at every floor joist. Looking at the top of every tall bookshelf, in every closet. The cost would be phenomenal. It would be cheaper to just pay the families of gun crime victims a million bucks apiece.

You can never tell who is going to crack. Nobody can read minds. I do know that most mass shooters are on some kind of psychotropic drug. Maybe not all, but the majority of them. This is played down in the mass media but you can find the sources, reliable sources.

They can control the sale of new guns, even make it hard to buy ammo, but people who have old unregistered ones are never going to give them up. Maybe a few will, but the majority of gun owners do not trust the government and even if they cannot stop the government, at least they can take themselves out. Take out a couple of cops or something and them stick in their mouth and do it. But that of course depends on the situation.

And many want self defense against crime.

Add up all these people and it comes clear that gun control will not work here. At least for a couple of generations. But maybe by then people will be civilized. But then we won't need gun control if people are civilized.

Catch 22.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:34:52 PM   
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"The last time the press (at the naval hospital in CA) confirmed the shooter to be a NRA member it turned out that there wasn't even a shooter."

Got any reference to that ? A link would be nice but with a name I can do my own research. I would like to know about that.

And California ? That makes sense. Alot of those peole are just fucked in the head.

What do you expect if you get fined if your grass turns brown and fined if you water it ? (that's right, a new industry there is painting people's lawns)

T^T

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:39:19 PM   
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When you look at these mass shooters, I defy you to find one that was an NRA member. What's more, I defy you to find many that were not on some sort of prescribed psyche drug.

Are NRA members screened for psycho-pharmaceuticals?

Was Christy Sheats a drug taking NRA member?

quote:

“It would be horribly tragic if my ability to protect myself or my family were to be taken away,” the 42-year-old wrote in March on her Facebook page, “but that’s exactly what Democrats are determined to do by banning semi-automatic handguns.”



Actually to my knowledge NRA members are not screened unless they try to buy liability insurance through one of their advertisers. I imagine and insurance actuary would practically demand it.

Now if she was on psyche drugs that should show up on a background check and that would mean no gun. However she did not use a new Glock, they said I think a five shot. Those are revolvers and most of them were made in the early 1900s, so there is no record of them. It could have been in her Grampa's dresser drawer when he died. No amount of gun control can stop that unless there is a door to door search across the country tearing out people's walls n shit, forcing them to open their safe if they have one and skulking around the basement looking up at every floor joist. Looking at the top of every tall bookshelf, in every closet. The cost would be phenomenal. It would be cheaper to just pay the families of gun crime victims a million bucks apiece.

You can never tell who is going to crack. Nobody can read minds. I do know that most mass shooters are on some kind of psychotropic drug. Maybe not all, but the majority of them. This is played down in the mass media but you can find the sources, reliable sources.

They can control the sale of new guns, even make it hard to buy ammo, but people who have old unregistered ones are never going to give them up. Maybe a few will, but the majority of gun owners do not trust the government and even if they cannot stop the government, at least they can take themselves out. Take out a couple of cops or something and them stick in their mouth and do it. But that of course depends on the situation.

And many want self defense against crime.

Add up all these people and it comes clear that gun control will not work here. At least for a couple of generations. But maybe by then people will be civilized. But then we won't need gun control if people are civilized.

Catch 22.

T^T

Actually there are several 5 shot revolvers on the market today, the Lady Smith for example.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:40:28 PM   
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"http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-mom-kills-daughters-20160627-snap-story.html

Texas police fatally shoot woman who killed her two daughters "


NRA member ? If so I guess that's three.

Just a few days ago you were sure there were none?



Read the fucking lines, NOT between the lines. I said SHOW ME one.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:40:38 PM   
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"The last time the press (at the naval hospital in CA) confirmed the shooter to be a NRA member it turned out that there wasn't even a shooter."

Got any reference to that ? A link would be nice but with a name I can do my own research. I would like to know about that.

And California ? That makes sense. Alot of those peole are just fucked in the head.

The tenth largest economy on the planet...just think where they would be if they were not so "fucked in the head"




What do you expect if you get fined if your grass turns brown and fined if you water it ? (that's right, a new industry there is painting people's lawns)


Tell me just how stupid does one have to be to believe that? Do you really think a fine from a hoa will stand up in court when the municipality fines you for watering your lawn?
Is this a special kind of stupid or is it something you got at wal-mart?


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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:41:03 PM   
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"The last time the press (at the naval hospital in CA) confirmed the shooter to be a NRA member it turned out that there wasn't even a shooter."

Got any reference to that ? A link would be nice but with a name I can do my own research. I would like to know about that.

And California ? That makes sense. Alot of those peole are just fucked in the head.

What do you expect if you get fined if your grass turns brown and fined if you water it ? (that's right, a new industry there is painting people's lawns)

T^T

Sorry it was just about a month after San Bernadito, and it turned out to be a non story, but I will see if I can find something on it.

Shooting scare at California Naval Hospital turns out to be false alarm

It was San Diego.

This produces a number of articles but I don't know which if any mention the broadcast of the confirmation that the shooter was both a Republican and a NRA member.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:42:32 PM   
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"http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-mom-kills-daughters-20160627-snap-story.html

Texas police fatally shoot woman who killed her two daughters "


NRA member ? If so I guess that's three.

Just a few days ago you were sure there were none?



Read the fucking lines, NOT between the lines. I said SHOW ME one.

So you are pissed because we did not stop at one?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:49:10 PM   
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"Actually there are several 5 shot revolvers on the market today, the Lady Smith for example. "

Aren't most of those small bore like .22s ? The light weigh and easy concealability make them desirable. I am not sure about the newer .50 but if it is a five shot that is because it would just be too damn heavy.

It is very desirable to be able to shoot with one hand. That is how people learn at first, but now from what I hear at the CCW classes they make you shoot with either hand, no matter which one you prefer once you get to where you can shoot with one hand. Reason being is that you are still at the ready in case you get shot in your favored hand, or something else happens to it. They want you to have some degree of accuracy under those conditions not just so you can hit your target, but also so you do not hit innocent bystanders. Alot of Women have small hands so those little .25s are much better for them than something they have a hard time even holding. Plus the move faster, they can come out of the holster, or the purse, quite a bit faster than a bigger and heavier gun. That might really matter.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:51:42 PM   
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"Actually there are several 5 shot revolvers on the market today, the Lady Smith for example. "

Aren't most of those small bore like .22s ? The light weigh and easy concealability make them desirable. I am not sure about the newer .50 but if it is a five shot that is because it would just be too damn heavy.

It is very desirable to be able to shoot with one hand. That is how people learn at first, but now from what I hear at the CCW classes they make you shoot with either hand, no matter which one you prefer once you get to where you can shoot with one hand. Reason being is that you are still at the ready in case you get shot in your favored hand, or something else happens to it. They want you to have some degree of accuracy under those conditions not just so you can hit your target, but also so you do not hit innocent bystanders. Alot of Women have small hands so those little .25s are much better for them than something they have a hard time even holding. Plus the move faster, they can come out of the holster, or the purse, quite a bit faster than a bigger and heavier gun. That might really matter.

T^T

The Lady Smith originally came out in .38 special. I think Ruger has a couple and so does taurus.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 8:57:59 PM   
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"Actually there are several 5 shot revolvers on the market today, the Lady Smith for example. "

Aren't most of those small bore like .22s ? The light weigh and easy concealability make them desirable. I am not sure about the newer .50 but if it is a five shot that is because it would just be too damn heavy.

It is very desirable to be able to shoot with one hand. That is how people learn at first, but now from what I hear at the CCW classes they make you shoot with either hand, no matter which one you prefer once you get to where you can shoot with one hand. Reason being is that you are still at the ready in case you get shot in your favored hand, or something else happens to it. They want you to have some degree of accuracy under those conditions not just so you can hit your target, but also so you do not hit innocent bystanders. Alot of Women have small hands so those little .25s are much better for them than something they have a hard time even holding. Plus the move faster, they can come out of the holster, or the purse, quite a bit faster than a bigger and heavier gun. That might really matter.

T^T

I would hope they would make you shoot with both hands, I was shooting by the time I was ten and my dad made my brothers and me learn with both hands, even the automaticx that ejected right into our faces.
The .50 is a lousy carry gun, too bulky for most people, too, too much recoil for most people, and too much penetration for an urban enviroment.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 9:05:48 PM   
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"http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-mom-kills-daughters-20160627-snap-story.html

Texas police fatally shoot woman who killed her two daughters "


NRA member ? If so I guess that's three.

Just a few days ago you were sure there were none?



Read the fucking lines, NOT between the lines. I said SHOW ME one.

So you are pissed because we did not stop at one?


Nobody here has the ability to piss me off. I don't care if you have ten. The NRA has millions of members, though it is hard to get a real number. For example a couple of my Uncles were lifetime member and they might still be counted because nobody in the family probably called them to let them know. So they still get the publications.

You make all kinds of assumptions. First of all, if NRA members were nuts, there would be blood filling the sewers. What's more, how the fuck does saying "show me one" indicate that I believe there are none ?

Now, I looked up a few things and I can tell you there are many murderers in the NRA. Can't say mass murders, but alot of cops are NRA members. They get two weeks paid vacation for murder. They also kill alot of people. A thousand or so a year, do OTHER NRA members kill that many ?

I had a quick look at their site, they train cops and others, and still sell the insurance. What else does anyone want ? For them to jump in the lake ?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 9:11:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-mom-kills-daughters-20160627-snap-story.html

Texas police fatally shoot woman who killed her two daughters "


NRA member ? If so I guess that's three.

Just a few days ago you were sure there were none?



Read the fucking lines, NOT between the lines. I said SHOW ME one.

So you are pissed because we did not stop at one?


Nobody here has the ability to piss me off. I don't care if you have ten. The NRA has millions of members, though it is hard to get a real number. For example a couple of my Uncles were lifetime member and they might still be counted because nobody in the family probably called them to let them know. So they still get the publications.

You make all kinds of assumptions. First of all, if NRA members were nuts, there would be blood filling the sewers. What's more, how the fuck does saying "show me one" indicate that I believe there are none ?

Now, I looked up a few things and I can tell you there are many murderers in the NRA. Can't say mass murders, but alot of cops are NRA members. They get two weeks paid vacation for murder. They also kill alot of people. A thousand or so a year, do OTHER NRA members kill that many ?

I had a quick look at their site, they train cops and others, and still sell the insurance. What else does anyone want ? For them to jump in the lake ?

T^T

A couple of months ago I saw a study that showed that cops have one tenth the crime rate of the general population, and the crime rate for ccw holders is one tenth that of cops.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 6/28/2016 9:19:11 PM   
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"Actually there are several 5 shot revolvers on the market today, the Lady Smith for example. "

Aren't most of those small bore like .22s ? The light weigh and easy concealability make them desirable. I am not sure about the newer .50 but if it is a five shot that is because it would just be too damn heavy.

It is very desirable to be able to shoot with one hand. That is how people learn at first, but now from what I hear at the CCW classes they make you shoot with either hand, no matter which one you prefer once you get to where you can shoot with one hand. Reason being is that you are still at the ready in case you get shot in your favored hand, or something else happens to it. They want you to have some degree of accuracy under those conditions not just so you can hit your target, but also so you do not hit innocent bystanders. Alot of Women have small hands so those little .25s are much better for them than something they have a hard time even holding. Plus the move faster, they can come out of the holster, or the purse, quite a bit faster than a bigger and heavier gun. That might really matter.

T^T

,22 or .25s are light with little recoil but very little punch. In between are the .32s hit harder than the .22s and kick less than the .38s.

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