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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/1/2016 3:11:25 AM   
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He was trying to defend himself before he was killed, the kid didnt come looking for trouble but the guy with a gun did, he does it often still.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/2/2016 4:40:39 PM   
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"Mental health is a real issue.....it's not caused by Monsanto.....the average male schizophrenic....."hits" at about age 23.....the numbers for women are far lower and begin 3 - 7 years later...

There's a HUGE need for mental health care in this country and it doesn't STOP at your doorstep or mine. "


Some mental health issues are caused by poor nutrition, which Monsanto and Cargill and a few other major food producers cause, but that doesn't make it their fault. They are in business to make money and there is competition and they get paid by the pound. You might not know it, but these cults they got kids to join long ago gave them a diet that lacked protein.

I studied psychology when I was young. I was a bookworm. Whenever the family asked what I want for Christmas or whatever I said books, NON-FICTION. Once I read all about psychology the rest of my life became a study of people. It actually stood me off a bit and made it a bit harder to get into close relationships with anyone.

But back in the day when there were practically no school shootings, people went to psychologists. They were counselors who helped you work through your problems. they are not legally able to prescribe any drugs. They were overpriced of course, but some were effective. Very effective in bringing out your internal problems that cause you to act out, the hatreds and regrets and whatever.

Now you go to a psychiatrists who is legally able to prescribe drugs, and on the first visit they write a scrip. This is wrong and is causing alot of problems. And they cannot predict what any of these psychotropic drugs will do to any particular person. They ffect the brain chemistry but they have not taken apart your brain to find out exactly what it might need. Actually they did back in the 1970s with the L-dopa drugs, but since then it seems to have been trial and error.

Personally, no degree or anything, have counseled people out of depression, even suicide. I failed once and that hurt me until I learned to better control my feelings. That guy, a good friend, had Huntington's and he explained why he was going to do it.

He explained that it is a congenital disease and his Mother had it and he had it. Like Parkinsons in a way with the tremors but this affects you mind in later stages. You get nuts. He said his Mother would go out driving and get into a wreck and hurt people and simply not give a shit. She was not that way before. And then he watched her strapped down to a bed in a hospital to basically die, because there is no cure. He told me (in confidence but he is dead now) that he was going to do it because he did not want to hurt others, and also wasn't too crazy about they way his Mother died. He hung himself. If what he said was right I really can't disagree.

Early after we met, I got a story for you, and true. We worked way east and he lived way west. He drove me to work and back. The very first day he was driving a Ford Escort in the fast lane on I-90. A semi truck did not see us and changed lanes and there was just barely enough room and he drove that car with precision even my family might not be able to match, and we are fucking good. He come from a car family too. Eventually the truck changed lanes to the right and the breath of the sigh of relief was deafening. I said "Just get us to the nearest bar right now".

So it came to pass that I usually rode with nim to and from work because I was on the way, and he started hanging around for a ffew beers after work. Once in a while on Fridays I wold just go out to the "strip" (of bars) by his place. He introduced me to Rare Earth - Get ready which I think is an excellent piece of music. And on Saturday morning he made an omelette with everything but the kitchen sink in it. If it was in the fridge and smelled good in it went, and they were good.

By the time I was 35 I knew more dead people than alive. I bitched about it saying "This shit is supposed to happen when you are like 60". It affected me in ways nobody will ever know. Think about it, more than half of your friends dead by the time you are 35.

But because of how I was raised I could take it. It did harden my heart though, it is about a Rockwell 9.3 now. However that does give me certain advantages though. I can keep a clear head in a bad situation. Ad I do believe that is important.

Many years ago a buddy asks me if I had any heroes and I said no. But really, the only ones who come to mind are Spock, in Star Trek. Saved the world, galaxy and universe here and there because he could keep a cool head. And Data, who did pretty much the same. But I do not rise them up to any kind of position of whatever, just what I consider heroic characters in fiction.

Other people are different. A while ago they used to go to Blockbuster and rent ten movies a week and they think what is in those movies is real. Now it is Netfliks but it is the same thing. And now all this new shit is unwatchable. All special effects and so much surround sound you can't hear the word. I am pretty much done with it.

But I have seen parts of some of these newer movies and can see how they affect people. I'll tell you this, I am sure Hollywood affects politics. And that is wrong.

Friend of mine has a saying now that he is older, a bit older than me. Says "Don't know, don't want to know". Unfortunately I already know. Can't seem to forget. I have not watched one debate or anything from these candidates but I can better predict what they're gong to do than people who have watch all of their lies and bullshit.

I have experience with cause and effect, my job is and has been for a long time, troubleshooting. I already know what is going to happen but not until the election. I know what powers the President has and does not have. The races in the house and senate are actually more important, believe it or not.

Bottom line, back to the point of MY thread, people came up with three murderers in the NRA. Is that all you got ?

How many mass murderers and school shooters were even fucking republican ? Look it up.

We real conservatives need to take the power back, and I do not mean neo-cons with their global oil policy. I man back to Barry Goldwater of even farther back than that. Get these goddamn globalists out of here so we can have a good country again.

And that is what Trump is selling and it might just put him in the big chair, but the fact is he will not be able to deliver.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 11:21:45 AM   
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the OP is just a repost of several articles of the same question. he knew ( other than the 2 NRA officials) what the answer was already.

My question is : who the fuck cares?

why do we even bother to go rounds about this when we all know how this will go?

the gun nuts give more of a shit about having their WMD's over any human life........ period.

they will give ANY excuse for keeping the killing and the profits coming from it all going ....until some of their fellow Americans gets erased by a fellow gun nut who buys all the stuff he kills with -100% legally.

you know.....the laws the NRA thinks are SOOOOOO effective at keeping guns from the wrong people? LIKE TERRORISTS???

OOPS!! I guess that just happened!!

NOW......... Its time to enforce all these after-the killing laws the NRA just swears are effective at deterring gun crime.....

OOOPS! all those laws don't mean shit cuz the dude killed and maimed 100+ people and DIDNT CARE ABOUT THOSE LAWS..... and is already dead.

So both ends of the laws the NRA loves are worthless in this case.

but its alright, the NRA will get more members, gun & ammo companies will make billions from the gun nuts buying more shit to kill with

they will pay off the GOP and not a fucking thing will change.......then another mass shooting will happen and the "guns aren't the problem" bullshit will start all over again.

oh wait..... the GOP will put up some more after-the-killing laws the killers will not give a shit about..... Right? We supposed to vote for u cracked asses for that..... Right?

because those kinds of laws are SOOOO effective .....right?


The shooter was turned in to the FBI including the first gun dealer he tried to buy from. The FBI dropped the ball here and immigration dropped the ball in San Bernidito. What new gun laws do the French need? They have had more people killed in mass murders than we have at any time since 9/11.

You have really moved on to hyperbole, small arms that aren't even full auto are WMD's? Come on now.


Thank u bamad for proving My point! ANY excuse at all!! Now its the FBI's fault that:

SIG Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle
9mm Glock 17 semi-automatic pistol

both legally bought assault weapon & handgun got used for their only real use.


(warning: sarcasm ahead...)

Thanks bamad, for explaining 100 or so people aren't a mass of people.... I guess that's why its not called the biggest mass-shooting in USA history? oh wait...it IS. (by a Weapon of MASS Destruction)

OHHHH.... I see,... never mind 202 shots fired.... oh wait! bamad infers we should be grateful that it wasn't a full auto..... that would of killed god-knows how many more..... at least using a semi-auto let the killer KINDA take longer looks at who he wanted to kill, (if he bothered beyond a cursory looks to start with)
and its so nice of u bamad to think of the shooters health since he got to exercise his itchy trigger finger...instead of being lazy with a full-auto...

but of course, he's telling us that at least its not a WMD....

(end of sarcasm)



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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 12:40:31 PM   
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[sarcasm]Hey bamad, be sure not to tell him what pump shotguns are capable of or what hand cannons refer to. What ever ya do, don't let on that other repeating firearms can pretty much amass the same kind of casualties. And while you're at it ya best not mention how common the Glock 17 is as a police side arm or how common similar types of rifles such as AR-15's are in use by law enforcement as well as those..... GASP..... full auto ones. Oh, and be sure not to ask him specifically what he thinks we should do about these WMD's.[/sarcasm]

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 6:28:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

the OP is just a repost of several articles of the same question. he knew ( other than the 2 NRA officials) what the answer was already.

My question is : who the fuck cares?

why do we even bother to go rounds about this when we all know how this will go?

the gun nuts give more of a shit about having their WMD's over any human life........ period.

they will give ANY excuse for keeping the killing and the profits coming from it all going ....until some of their fellow Americans gets erased by a fellow gun nut who buys all the stuff he kills with -100% legally.

you know.....the laws the NRA thinks are SOOOOOO effective at keeping guns from the wrong people? LIKE TERRORISTS???

OOPS!! I guess that just happened!!

NOW......... Its time to enforce all these after-the killing laws the NRA just swears are effective at deterring gun crime.....

OOOPS! all those laws don't mean shit cuz the dude killed and maimed 100+ people and DIDNT CARE ABOUT THOSE LAWS..... and is already dead.

So both ends of the laws the NRA loves are worthless in this case.

but its alright, the NRA will get more members, gun & ammo companies will make billions from the gun nuts buying more shit to kill with

they will pay off the GOP and not a fucking thing will change.......then another mass shooting will happen and the "guns aren't the problem" bullshit will start all over again.

oh wait..... the GOP will put up some more after-the-killing laws the killers will not give a shit about..... Right? We supposed to vote for u cracked asses for that..... Right?

because those kinds of laws are SOOOO effective .....right?


The shooter was turned in to the FBI including the first gun dealer he tried to buy from. The FBI dropped the ball here and immigration dropped the ball in San Bernidito. What new gun laws do the French need? They have had more people killed in mass murders than we have at any time since 9/11.

You have really moved on to hyperbole, small arms that aren't even full auto are WMD's? Come on now.


Thank u bamad for proving My point! ANY excuse at all!! Now its the FBI's fault that:

SIG Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle
9mm Glock 17 semi-automatic pistol

both legally bought assault weapon & handgun got used for their only real use.


(warning: sarcasm ahead...)

Thanks bamad, for explaining 100 or so people aren't a mass of people.... I guess that's why its not called the biggest mass-shooting in USA history? oh wait...it IS. (by a Weapon of MASS Destruction)

OHHHH.... I see,... never mind 202 shots fired.... oh wait! bamad infers we should be grateful that it wasn't a full auto..... that would of killed god-knows how many more..... at least using a semi-auto let the killer KINDA take longer looks at who he wanted to kill, (if he bothered beyond a cursory looks to start with)
and its so nice of u bamad to think of the shooters health since he got to exercise his itchy trigger finger...instead of being lazy with a full-auto...

but of course, he's telling us that at least its not a WMD....

(end of sarcasm)



No, you described them as WMDs which is ridiculous, the gas used at happyland doesn't really and killed over half again as many.
You also reveal (again) your ignorance by refering to the weapon he used as an assault rifle. No matter how many time you and yours repeat that lie it was not an assault weapon. It has to have full auto capability to be an assault weapon.
He bought the guns legally BECAUSE THE FBI SCREWED UP, remember one of the people who turned him in to the FBI was a gun dealer. Unlike him the FBI had no problem with him or his looking for a bullet proof vest and a automatic rifle at the same time. He was turned in to the FBI three times by three different people but no, they are in no way to blame, it has to be the gun shop and the NRA, anything to fit into you parinoid fear of guns.
There I go againresorting to facts.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 7:40:45 PM   
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Stop confusing the liberals with facts. It is obvious we nee more laws that will not be enforced.

Let's get really tough. If you get behind on child support they take your guns. If you do not maintain your property well enough they take your guns. If you gt a speeding ticket they take your guns. If you fart in church they take your guns. If you put something in the recycle can that is not recycleable they take your guns. If you put something recycleable in the regular garbage they take your guns. And in California is your lawn turns brown they take yous guns and if you water it they take your guns. If any of the downspouts on your house leak they take your guns. If your car fails the emissions test they take your guns. If you call the police they take your guns.

That's what these assholes want. But we have laws already, and pointing out that they were not enforced makes idiots think we need stronger laws. Why ? They will not be enforced either. You could make guns totally illegal here and about ten people out of 150 million gun owners will turn them in or go to a "buyback". And people do not realize that a 100 year old gun that doesn't even HAVE a serial number can kill.

They are afraid because they think someone is going to get hot headed and shoot them, or they will get hot headed and shoot someone else. Well anyone with that little confidence in their adulthood probably should not have a gun. But that means nothing to me.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 7:45:25 PM   
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FR: (apologies if this has been addressed)
I have no idea if she was a member of the NRA or not: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/27/texas-mom-killed-by-police-after-she-shot-two-daughters-to-death-police-say/

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 8:25:09 PM   
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FR: (apologies if this has been addressed)
I have no idea if she was a member of the NRA or not: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/27/texas-mom-killed-by-police-after-she-shot-two-daughters-to-death-police-say/

If we can't prove she wasn't then obviously we have to pretend she was.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/5/2016 8:29:00 PM   
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Yes it has been posted. And nothing has said she was an NRA member.

For some reason people associate that, but no logical reason. Even the most liberal of media have not been quoted here as making that claim.

So far as I can see, we have TWO, out of millions. What is the crime rate of the general population ? The fact is that NRA members are almost all law abiding Citizens. The fact is that criminals do not join the NRA, they join gangs if anything.

And as I said before, the things people say about the NRA are mostly bullshit. Instead of reading what other websites say about them GO TO THEIR WEBSITE. Fuck this he said she said bullshit. Get it from the horse's mouth so to speak. They DO support gun control, just not gun banning for law abiding Citizens. The liberal assholes and hoplophobes want you to think that they want every N____ that comes out of prison for a violent felony to be able to get a gun and then get in the Womens room with your nine year old daughter and rape her at gunpoint. I can estimate quite well that not one NRA member supports that shit. But they want you to think it, and fear guns.

I have been shot in the face and do not fear guns. My own Father stopped just short of shooting me. It is not the gun it is the person (or animal) holding it.

Everyone here, go to the NRA site and see what they support. I mean NRA DOT FUCKING COM, not some other site telling you what they want you to think they said. You know Ron Paul might have become President if people actually read what he said instead of the bullshit about what he said with the snipped content. Bernie Sanders could be President except for how they cut up his words. His plan is not that great but it would be in the long term. Instead, because people do not look to the source, we got the choice of a golf course owner and someone who is very likely to start a real war. And I mean with BIG countries involved because she doesn't know shit. And the Trumpster, goddam. As dumb as that motherfucker is, I think he is a better choice than Clinton.

People do not have facts. they have snippets of facts the media uses to further their agenda, whatever that is. Mainly to make money, and maybe to have strife and war on which they can report and get the audience and raise advertising rates.

Fucking people the world would be better off without them. (and I meant to not punctuate that)

T^T

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/6/2016 1:11:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

the OP is just a repost of several articles of the same question. he knew ( other than the 2 NRA officials) what the answer was already.

My question is : who the fuck cares?

why do we even bother to go rounds about this when we all know how this will go?

the gun nuts give more of a shit about having their WMD's over any human life........ period.

they will give ANY excuse for keeping the killing and the profits coming from it all going ....until some of their fellow Americans gets erased by a fellow gun nut who buys all the stuff he kills with -100% legally.

you know.....the laws the NRA thinks are SOOOOOO effective at keeping guns from the wrong people? LIKE TERRORISTS???

OOPS!! I guess that just happened!!

NOW......... Its time to enforce all these after-the killing laws the NRA just swears are effective at deterring gun crime.....

OOOPS! all those laws don't mean shit cuz the dude killed and maimed 100+ people and DIDNT CARE ABOUT THOSE LAWS..... and is already dead.

So both ends of the laws the NRA loves are worthless in this case.

but its alright, the NRA will get more members, gun & ammo companies will make billions from the gun nuts buying more shit to kill with

they will pay off the GOP and not a fucking thing will change.......then another mass shooting will happen and the "guns aren't the problem" bullshit will start all over again.

oh wait..... the GOP will put up some more after-the-killing laws the killers will not give a shit about..... Right? We supposed to vote for u cracked asses for that..... Right?

because those kinds of laws are SOOOO effective .....right?


The shooter was turned in to the FBI including the first gun dealer he tried to buy from. The FBI dropped the ball here and immigration dropped the ball in San Bernidito. What new gun laws do the French need? They have had more people killed in mass murders than we have at any time since 9/11.

You have really moved on to hyperbole, small arms that aren't even full auto are WMD's? Come on now.


Thank u bamad for proving My point! ANY excuse at all!! Now its the FBI's fault that:

SIG Sauer MCX semi-automatic rifle
9mm Glock 17 semi-automatic pistol

both legally bought assault weapon & handgun got used for their only real use.


(warning: sarcasm ahead...)

Thanks bamad, for explaining 100 or so people aren't a mass of people.... I guess that's why its not called the biggest mass-shooting in USA history? oh wait...it IS. (by a Weapon of MASS Destruction)

OHHHH.... I see,... never mind 202 shots fired.... oh wait! bamad infers we should be grateful that it wasn't a full auto..... that would of killed god-knows how many more..... at least using a semi-auto let the killer KINDA take longer looks at who he wanted to kill, (if he bothered beyond a cursory looks to start with)
and its so nice of u bamad to think of the shooters health since he got to exercise his itchy trigger finger...instead of being lazy with a full-auto...

but of course, he's telling us that at least its not a WMD....

(end of sarcasm)



Then you consider gasoline to be a wmd? Afterall it was used to kill 87 people in the Happylad night club in NJ. Do you consider airliners to be wmds?
I was not saying that we should be happy it wasn't full auto, just that you keep spouting terms that don't fit what you are talking about.
Are you telling me that if the FBI had done thier job that the guns would have still found a way to kill people?
Are you saying, since you oppose post crime punishment that we should move to minority report a go ahead and punish people because someone somewhere might commit a crime?
I have used fireams for over 50 years and have found lots of real reasons for a firearm other that murdering bunches of people.

BTW do they add something to the water in MN bet you would get along real well with that other guy from MN

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/6/2016 3:49:34 AM   
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Red state welfare patients are cretins of the first order. What does the fact that you sit on a porch and wiggle your dick at a pizza boy have to do with gun violence in the US?

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 5:04:27 AM   
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First of all, people who really worked and made real money usually retire in red states because they are a better place to live. Liberals run places like Detroit and Chicago. Look at them.

Second of all, who is a patient ? If someone is really sick should they not get medical care, that likely they paid for or paid into when they were working ? Using that word as an insult displays your mental inadequacy.

And, a cretin is someone who had a thyroid disorder that was not addressed when they were young. what's next, you going to pick on people who have bad hearing or eyesight, or maybe are parapalegic or something like that ? Or how about people born with other defects ? How about sickle cell. We'll just send the Blacks over to your house over that. How about Tay Sachs ? You really want to fuck with the Jews ? The stupidest Jew in the world is a thousand times smarter than you, they'll take every fucking thing you own if you piss them off.

The real words you use, apparently you do not know what half of them mean, and then you make up stupid words that have no meaning and post them on a public internet forum. I am EXTREMELY surprised you are still here. You have gotten alot worse over the years. Ten years ago half of your posts made sense, now I believe it is less than 10 %.

You have no fucking idea how to have a normal argument so you resort to insults. Do you even care how that makes you look ? Now, when you do post something worthwhile those who haven't already put you on ignore will give you zero credibility. Is that what you wanted ? Because you really have earned it.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 5:18:04 AM   
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Yeah we see the boon that WI and FL and TX and NJ and KS (off the top of my head) have been with nutsucker administrations. The reason they retire there is they are welfare states who dont pay their own way, no taxes since they get welfare payments from the Fed.

I dont argue with people who are factless shitheads, you might come up with a word I have made up. No? didnt think so. Termy as a mental defective, you have never had credibilty,

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout
cretinous play \-tən-əs\ adjective

Hyperthyroid is an effect of cretinism but social is not socialism (you are a cretin and have no ability to figure that out)

Thanks for playing. Your pronouncements have turned out false (there are NRA members who have committed murders) E Pluribus Unum.

Uh, dont know why the antisemetic Jew rant, but you go moron.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 5:35:17 AM   
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[sarcasm]Hey bamad, be sure not to tell him what pump shotguns are capable of or what hand cannons refer to. What ever ya do, don't let on that other repeating firearms can pretty much amass the same kind of casualties. And while you're at it ya best not mention how common the Glock 17 is as a police side arm or how common similar types of rifles such as AR-15's are in use by law enforcement as well as those..... GASP..... full auto ones. Oh, and be sure not to ask him specifically what he thinks we should do about these WMD's.[/sarcasm]


Trying to get at what you are trying to get at here.

How many here have ever shot a full automatic ? It is not easy. It takes alot of practice to even get a good "pattern". you are usually better off with a 12 gauge shot gun with #0 shot. With a full auto you are likely to go all over the place and actually kill less people. And where do you practice ? Even a shooting range usually won't let you fire them there. Seriously, if I had a full auto I would set it to semi if I wanted to go postal.

And even if you can hold a pattern, the timing of the shots must match the spacing of the victims, otherwise you kill less. If the idea is to kill as many as possible full auto is not the way to go. The bigger clips are nice. But the reality of the situation is it is not really better. Plus the fact that I don't remember any of these mass shootings happ4ning with a full auto in full auto mode. I could be wrong, I do not remember everything. But they are usually semi auto but with big magazines. but you can buy as many magazines as you want and practice changing them in your house without even pulling the trigger.

Machine guns are made for war where there are alot of people who are too far away to take really close aim at. I knew a guy who was in WW2 and he told me it kicks like a mule and after firing it alot the barrel actually started bending back and forth from the heat. The accuracy is simply not there. By aiming and firing a semi auto you can kill quite a few more at the mall or a school or whatever, or military base. (LOL, TWICE !)

Walk into a place, even one that is crowded. Look at the dispersion of people. If you pull full auto there you are going to shoot more desks, water fountains and chairs than people. You better have some serious money for ammo because you are going to waste at least 80 % of it.

But then crazies do not care. the only thing you do gain with a full auto is if you have a specific target, you drill the target and he is almost certain to die because you are more likely to hit a vital area. But of course to do that you need to hold a pattern. Aim the thing as it is shaking you half to death. Being hard to see is not the ONLY reason soldiers laid on the ground. Part of it was the kick. And they wanted the guns light so they made them light, which means they had less mass which means they had more kick. The reason a S&W .500 doesn't knock you down is because it weighs so much. Same with a 12 gauge shotgun, I got one I can shoot with one hand. Well I used to be able to, not so sure now at double the age.

So really, looking back, how many have been mowed down by full autos ? Not many. And in general murders it is almost always a handgun. In fact most shotguns are not that good at it, you need a choke, 00 buckshot and a 3" magnum round to make sure. The Browning will not take 3", only 2¾". The Mossberg will though. And of course you need to hit center mass. That almost assures a kill. Almost.

All these laws n shit are designed to make it look like they are doing something. To make them look good. They could not care less if we live or die. Well maybe some, the ones who pay alot in taxes. Let's just say if you get EIC and get murdered, they will spend all of five minutes looking into it. If nothing is obvious it becomes a cold case. They just do not care.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 5:42:27 AM   
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Yeah we see the boon that WI and FL and TX and NJ and KS (off the top of my head) have been with nutsucker administrations. The reason they retire there is they are welfare states who dont pay their own way, no taxes since they get welfare payments from the Fed.

I dont argue with people who are factless shitheads, you might come up with a word I have made up. No? didnt think so. Termy as a mental defective, you have never had credibilty,

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout
cretinous play \-tən-əs\ adjective

Hyperthyroid is an effect of cretinism but social is not socialism (you are a cretin and have no ability to figure that out)

Thanks for playing. Your pronouncements have turned out false (there are NRA members who have committed murders) E Pluribus Unum.

Uh, dont know why the antisemetic Jew rant, but you go moron.


You really have trouble with reading comprehension don't you ?

Saying the stupidest Jew is a thousand times smarter than you is
anti-Semitic ?

What's more, you don't argue with factless shit heads ? Well, how long did it take you to post this argument against me ?

If you are so great and intelligent and everyone else on here is stupid, and you do not argue with the stupid, why do you post ?

But I got it figured out. You own the place. If not they would have thrown you the fuck out of here a long time ago because you have the mentality of a five year old brat who need to be beaten half to death.

And I do not say shit like that lightly.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 5:43:47 AM   
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Oh, and asshole look it up. Cretinismm is CAUSED by defective thyroid. Not the other way around, which is the way you put it.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 6:09:36 AM   
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LOL.

You have moved beyond being an irritant into being an entertainer.

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 10:30:10 AM   
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Yeah we see the boon that WI and FL and TX and NJ and KS (off the top of my head) have been with nutsucker administrations. The reason they retire there is they are welfare states who dont pay their own way, no taxes since they get welfare payments from the Fed.

I dont argue with people who are factless shitheads, you might come up with a word I have made up. No? didnt think so. Termy as a mental defective, you have never had credibilty,

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout
cretinous play \-tən-əs\ adjective

Hyperthyroid is an effect of cretinism but social is not socialism (you are a cretin and have no ability to figure that out)

Thanks for playing. Your pronouncements have turned out false (there are NRA members who have committed murders) E Pluribus Unum.

Uh, dont know why the antisemetic Jew rant, but you go moron.


You are telling me Florida is a welfare state? Ha:
You dare to talk shit to Our Jewish people?
You dare to mock Termy who has more smarts in his little finger then most people have in their brain?
Bring it, eat your own nutsacker, nutsucker words.




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Okie dokie man tokey

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RE: Show Me One NRA Member Who Committed Murder - 7/7/2016 7:40:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cinnamongirl67


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah we see the boon that WI and FL and TX and NJ and KS (off the top of my head) have been with nutsucker administrations. The reason they retire there is they are welfare states who dont pay their own way, no taxes since they get welfare payments from the Fed.

I dont argue with people who are factless shitheads, you might come up with a word I have made up. No? didnt think so. Termy as a mental defective, you have never had credibilty,

1 often offensive : one afflicted with cretinism
2 : a stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person : clod, lout
cretinous play \-tən-əs\ adjective

Hyperthyroid is an effect of cretinism but social is not socialism (you are a cretin and have no ability to figure that out)

Thanks for playing. Your pronouncements have turned out false (there are NRA members who have committed murders) E Pluribus Unum.

Uh, dont know why the antisemetic Jew rant, but you go moron.


You are telling me Florida is a welfare state? Ha:
You dare to talk shit to Our Jewish people?
You dare to mock Termy who has more smarts in his little finger then most people have in their brain?
Bring it, eat your own nutsacker, nutsucker words.





Thanks for the compliment, but I really am losing it a bit. Not much, but I know it is slipping and I know why, black mold nine years ago.

However, before that I had a spell when I decided to take a bunch of internet IQ tests. The highest one I scored was 191. I am not stu0id enough to believe I have an IQ of 191 of course. The lowest was 125. Most of them ran in the mid 130s. If I was a 191 I would be working for a government (NOT THIS ONE) and making a shit ton of money developing new weapons.

I have had bad exposure to black mold and it did take some of my mental acuity, but being aware of it I am simply more careful in life. It almost killed me, I could barely walk. the doctors could not figure it out because it affects everyone differently. When you troubleshoot aything, say a car, you look for spark, fuel, compression, whatever, but thereis not set of symptoms for this and they usually miss it. We found it on my house when I had to move. It was removed but I never came back to 100 %.

And if Ron wants to call me a welfare patient I say this, I do NOT get a check and I am NOT having any treatment whatsoever.

But I was raised a bit different than most. First of all is the sticks and stones thing. I don't know why he even bothers posting, it does not affect me a bit. The only people who can affect me are those whom I give a shit about their opinions. (is that strictly grammatically correct ?) Nobody here gives a shit about his opinions so whatever he says means nothing. I won't ignore him because newcomers might find his semi-vitriol and think we are a bunch of assholes. We are not. If everyone ignored him his comments would be available to all seven billion people except us. I think that is an undesirable situation for us and the website.

So when he fucks with you, fuck back. And do it right. Do not let him piss you off. Anger is a choice. Aggravation may cause it and he certainly is good at that but I can prove anger is a choice but from a male standpoint.

You are on the couch and this baby gets up on you wearing those damn baby shoes that seem to be made of cement. The kid steps on your testicle, HARD. The pain is excruciating.

Do you get pissed off and throw the kid through the fucking window ? Hell no. You simply did not turn it into anger. If some guy smacks you in the face at the bar that is different, but that is not what happened here. You conciously decided not to convert this aggravation into anger.

If you can do it then you can do it anytime, unless someone is physically attacking you constantly. This is the first thing Men really learn. You only return anger to anger. You wrestle with kids, I used to all the time, if I experienced pain I did never retaliate. They didn't mean it it and the fun was about worth it.

The only people I WANT to hurt are the ones who WANT to hurt me. I will not raise a hand in anger to anyone because I have grown beyond anger. I simply refuse to feel it. It could be said that I have a very long fuse but it is connected to a very big bomb. If someone actually does really cross the line, and that takes alot, I will blow one kneecap off, use my foot to break their other leg to save ammo, drop my knee with 250 pounds into their chest multiple times to break up their ribs, cut up their face to no end and let them lay there and bleed, and if they make too much noise I will start on their neck so they cannot breathe. Or I will turn up the stereo. Got 400 watts y'know. Well 200 in the garage where this would probably happen.

I like people. All races all diversions and whatever, except criminals. I am old enough to not worry about a life sentence or a death sentence. I was taught this a long time ago. I was a hothead and wanted to kill someone, and it really, in retrospect was not warranted. A good knee job maybe but not death.

There were some though. Actually I knew guys with badges and figured maybe I would have them go in their livingroom and dump five gallons of gasoline on the floor and say "No smoking" and then show the badge ad say "Don't bother calling the cops, already been here". I did not do it, and later everything was fine, reconciled. Rash actions are a bad thing..

Anyway, the words of Ron (nmotertail, whatever the fuck that means, probably anus) have no weight. He is a test to see which of us is more mature than him and how much, that is all. From what I see, one post in ten of his has anything real in it. The rest are all insults. Well attempted insults. If you don't care what some motherfucker thinks, he really cannot insult you. And now he is worse than the US government making more enemies every day. Eventually everyone but me will have him on ignore. And when the moderators come back if they ever do, he will be gone. But I do not care.

In between his childish screams we still have intelligent discussions. Rational arguments and all. He does not know how to participate in such so he tries to disrupt the forum and wreck it for everyone. Sooner or late he might realize that he is not being successful at that and possibly stop. Or, kinda like thonpsonx, someone in the real world might kill them or fuck them up real bad, like in a bar or a McDonald's or something.

If this motherfucker was talking in most of the bars I know like that he would be on the floor hurting real bad, and when he went to take out his cellphone to call the cops they would take it away from him, and then hours later when he had a a chance to bleed a while they would take him across town to a VERY bad neighborhood and see if his mouthy ass survived that. You think I am kidding ?

Well, I am off to suck some nuts. Well actually burn one. We do not smoke smoke in the house. Cigarettes are OK So see, I am mellow even without that shit. I have no anger.

You know, I studied psychology when I was very young. I read every book in the house. Since then it has been an ongoing study. I am going to prod this asshole and see what happens. And I know he can see that statement.

:-)

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