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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Im watchhing ITV right now with Cameron talking in parliament.
https://www.facebook.com/itvnews/
While I really don't like Cameron, I feel sorry for him as they are hammering him for the lies and misinformation that the leave campaign spread, if you watch the tickers, the jobs and investments that are being cut are now starting to be reported.
There were many lies on both sides of the argument.
One side was no better than the other.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Cameron talking about securing a good deal post Brexit, well, after pissing them off, a good deal is guaranteed - not. It's a bit like a divorce and if one partner really messed you around, I guess most people won't be "amicable", for years the UK tabloid press rubbished the EU, lead by Murdoch.
Again, just one side of the coin.
All the media reported crap from both sides.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
A ton of leavers are now regretting their vote with "but they promised us",
Many people have intimated that they may have voted differently - but not for the crap reasons you are espouting.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
Anybody who cared to check up could have easily seen Turkey isn't joining,
Yes they will. Just not any time soon.
Apparently, they have only met 1 in 35 of the main criteria they need to join.
But, after the latest migrant crisis, most of the EU (UK included) are bending over backwards to expedite Turkey joining the EU.
So yes, it will happen - just not yet.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
that there wasn't £350 million,
That's the gross figure that the UK owed the EU every week.
From Full Fact GB: Each year the UK gets an instant discount on its contributions to the EU—the ‘rebate’—worth almost £5 billion last year. Without it the UK would have been liable for £18 billion in contributions. (2015 estimated figures)
From The BBC: Gross contribution: £18,777m/yr, £361m/wk, £51m/day. (2014 actual figures)
£18 billion a year works out at £346 million per week. That's fact, not fiction.
It has always been stated as a gross figure, not nett - that's the lie that the remainers spread about to discredit it.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
that we don't have mass immigration from the EU at all.
Just under half of all migration to the UK is from the EU.
According to Migration Watch: The latest net migration statistics show that in the year ending December 2015, net migration to the UK was 333,000... EU net migration is currently 184,000 compared to 188,000 from outside the EU.
The point is, anyone from any EU country has the right to come here for any reason and we can't stop them - thanks to the Maastricht Treaty of 1992.
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
I loved that open border myth most of all, every time I leave or come in, I have to show my passport and go through passport control, those open borders, where the hell are they? Is there a secret tunnel or airport I haven't been told about?
You will always have to show your passport when traveling between an EU country within the Shengan Area and those outside it; whether that's the UK or somewhere else.
Between two countries within the Shengan area, there is no passport control at all.
Example: once in France, you can travel to Belgium, Luxembourg and on into Germany or Austria without seeing any border controls whatsoever.
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