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FR...... Boris has just announced he wont run for leader. Gove said he will, in a speech stabbing Boris in the back. May and leadson both to run, and in my opinion both better options than Gove.

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The EU is nothing more than a vast neo-liberal experiment.

Yeah... now if it were only the EU and not "Western Civilization". Basically, the neolibs seems to be running the world nowadays and they are doing a piss poor job of it. Then again, feudalism and oligarchy have never been all that wonderful unless you happened to be in the elite class. It's no surprise they are working out poorly nowadays.

I sincerely believe the end of neo-liberalism is on the horizon Jeff.

People were saying that ten years back after the Blair Shit Project failed spectacularly. And fifteen years before that when the wicked witch of the east was ousted from her party's government with a knife in her back.
Still plenty of neolibs stinking the place up, though. You'd almost think they ignore what the electorate wants or something.

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I'll be honest. I couldn't give the first fuck that you got a crack off someone. Were you going on like this by any chance?

You know what NG, there is no reason a man should hit a woman, none at all. So shame on you for suggesting such, as even expressing an opinion you dont agree with isnt an excuse.

Bollocks.

Do you know anything about this?

All I can see is a woman ranting about how everyone is stupid and racist. 52% of the country in her own words. Does that sound like the voice of reason to you?

In addition, she has a small puff on her eye that could have been caused by anything. Now if that is a cracked jaw then she'd be the first person to have a small puff over her eye after having her jaw cracked.

The evidence is: firstly she's a raving lunatic; secondly, her face does not suggest a cracked jaw.

No one is suggesting a man should hit a woman, or vice versa. That said, she's not a weak and feeble woman; she has a big gob on her.

Ultimately, if she's prepared to label 52% of the country stupid and racist, then with that short of maturity what is preventing her from posting a picture of her face and claiming some 'Leave' supporter has given her a crack.

It's a load of shite.

My point wasn't that I think anyone should hit her; it was that I don't give the first fuck what is going on in her life. And, quite frankly I don't believe her - based upon the utter shite she has posted on this thread post after post.

Still no excuse for the comments about violence, not now, not ever.

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Naah, I have had enough of this crap. This is why one of the reasons I left England in the first place. I will sidestep any more arguments and watch you all go to hell in a handbasket of your own making.

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It'll be fine.

And, if we don't have the imagination and creativity to prosper then we deserve to fail.

So, either way we'll find out what we're made of, and if we don't pass the test then we'll only have ourselves to blame.

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Oh, I thought since you all mean to auger in, you should go the full tilt boogie.

Prang the bloody kite.

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I have to agree here Peon........what was the point of the whole referendum if the result is not going to be accepted ? you may as well not bother and save the UK a whole bunch of money and strife. If you won't accept the majority decision, it really is a bit of a farce, isn't it ?

The point of the referendum was this.

Mr David Cameron is head of a pretty far-right party. A lot in his party are nationalist to the point they believe they can return to the glory days of the British Empire, the commonwealth, invading India, etc. Also, much of the parties support had started to go to a fascist outfit called UKIP. When he won the 2010 general election he had no majority, and needed the other parties (specifically the Libs) to support him in order to get legislation through.

So the 2015 election rolls around, and after almost losing the first election, he was in a panic. In order to appease most of those on the far-right, not only in his party but in the country, he promised a referendum. He fully expected to actually reduce his share of the vote during the election and be in a coalition with the Libs again, and as the most Euro-friendly party they would veto any attempt to hold a referendum.

But no, he became the only incumbent prime minister since 1955 to actually increase his share of the vote.

So against his own instincts he held the referendum. And he was then forced to fight as hard as he could to try to put down the beast he had unleashed.

The leave campaign promised a whole host of bullshit.



As well as blatantly making this referendum about things which had nothing to do with the actual EU.



And of course, the very day after this those who didn't know before realized it was bullshit as people started to back-track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA3XTYfzd1I

The referendum was a farce. It was not about giving people a choice but about the ambition of David Cameron and Boris Johnson, and WILL damage the living standards and create upheaval for literally millions of people. As is now apparently, only the nutter crowd wanted it - Johnson is horrified at what he has done - and nobody knows how to go about it. Leaving is a fools errand.

It would be stupid to do this now. Merely leaving because of an "advisory" referendum which should not have been held in the first place would be ridiculous.

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The EU is nothing more than a vast neo-liberal experiment.

Yeah... now if it were only the EU and not "Western Civilization". Basically, the neolibs seems to be running the world nowadays and they are doing a piss poor job of it. Then again, feudalism and oligarchy have never been all that wonderful unless you happened to be in the elite class. It's no surprise they are working out poorly nowadays.

I sincerely believe the end of neo-liberalism is on the horizon Jeff.

People were saying that ten years back after the Blair Shit Project failed spectacularly. And fifteen years before that when the wicked witch of the east was ousted from her party's government with a knife in her back.
Still plenty of neolibs stinking the place up, though. You'd almost think they ignore what the electorate wants or something.

I'm presently reading, "Blair and Iraq" and its a very interesting read.

Karl Polanyi published his masterwork on neo-liberalism ‘The Great Transformation’ in 1944. Friedrich, another neo-liberal thinker, followed the Marxist ideology of, ‘If you can occupy peoples' heads, their hearts and their hands will follow.’ Both Heath and Thatcher were disciples of Polanyi & Friedrich but Blair was just desperate for everyone to like him, especially the American president. He was malleable and that’s why Labour, after a disastrous number of years, got in.

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I always knew you were full of shit regarding your supposed political science cred. Ye Gods.

Look, please, Awareness: stop following me around these forums

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, trying to work out the most cutting thing you can say to me. (Or about me - in the hope that I'll see what you've said, and be suitable slayed by it.)

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It's beginning to look a tad stalker-ish. And a bit, well, woofterish, truth be told.

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You should ask yourself - seriously - who exactly do you need to convince, and why?

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And no, you don't know what you're talking about. Again. At least read the Wikipedia articles, for *feck's* sake ....

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And, look, why don't stop trying to assert your masculinity quite so much. I mean, jesus, don't you ever get tired of that? What's the point?

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You can ease up, now - you have a girlfriend!

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Take a few days off from trying to be such a world class Internet Alpha, eh? Must be tiring, no? What's the point?

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It'll be fine.

And, if we don't have the imagination and creativity to prosper then we deserve to fail.

So, either way we'll find out what we're made of, and if we don't pass the test then we'll only have ourselves to blame.

Famous last words.

Honestly, no bad wishes.

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And, lets be honest here: many people here want the best of both worlds. We want good relations with you centred around trade, but we don't want a centralised government in Europe with the power to interfere in our politics and our law.
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I sincerely believe the end of neo-liberalism is on the horizon Jeff.

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And, lets be honest here: many people here want the best of both worlds. We want good relations with you centred around trade, but we don't want a centralised government in Europe with the power to interfere in our politics and our law.
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I think you might get something like that - if lucky. If less lucky you might get something that is less well working trade-wise, and a government with even less power to control your politics and your laws. And the evil EU commission of which your governments have been a part until yesterday, will simply tell you what the rules about being in or out are. (Those existing already). And they are not what Boris and the kippers promised you ...

I am really sad for all my friends in the UK.