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Politesub53 -> RE: Brexit Vote Results (7/2/2016 4:49:47 PM)
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ORIGINAL: blnymph
Just two points: It is hardly "the EU insist"ing again but some there reminding British politicians that free movement of humans (including labour) has been part of every free trade agreement the UK has signed since the 1950s including those before Britain has become a EC member. Going back to before that means no free trade agreement valid. It is naive even to consider 27 + a few more states (Norway, Iceland ...) to tear up 60 years of international trade (and more than only trade) regulations because Boris and the kippers promised you. Back to the 1950s because it sounds so good in your ears? It means back to a Europe before EFTA. Really, your wishes? No real chance, not before, not after referendum. Not because of the evil EU but because some politicians who should have known all those things (nothing secret about them as I posted above) have told you CRAP. Nothing but empty phrases.
Yes the Brussels technocrats are not elected. They do not listen to the electorate they listen to the EU commission, EU council, and EU parliament. Who votes for EU parliament: you and me and a lot more. Who makes up EU commission and council: your and mine and 26 other governments. While I rather distrust the intelligence of many in any european member states' governments this construction is the about the best possible after British governments constantly vetoed more competences for the EU parliament decade after decade for instance.
So yes the Brussels technocrats are not elected. But they are executives for heaven's sake, nobody I know votes executives in or out: Do you vote in or out your postman, garbage lorry driver, typist of the town mayor, army officer of any regiment, HM ambassador to China? This is not democratic indeed. Anywhere. (btw do you know that more than 1000 Brits work there?)
The "voted for" parts are your and mine and 26 other governments, and EU parliament. That parliament has not that much legislative power is the consequence of your and my and the other governments not enabling the EU parliament to.
It could be better no doubt about that. So could your and my government politicians. Have fun with yours. Ask them for a plan for the future, it is obvious they do not have one. Not one.
I usually like your posts, but I cant have this. Would you care to show me where there was free movement of people between the UK and the EU prior to 1972 ?
You, like a lot of others, mock those who voted leave as wanting to take the UK back to the fifties. Do I really need to remind you many of those same people fought in WW2 to preserve European freedom from the last person who wanted an EU Superstate. Add to that all of them would have lost relatives in WW1. They hardly need reminding about the horrors of "Two world wars" by the arseholes who want another referendum
As for a UK citizens working in Brussels, a 1,000 is hardly an equal sum given the amount of money we pay in. And far from lecturing me on technocrats and how they are voted in, let me remind you the general public has no say on how many of these technocrats are elected. So there is no way they are accountable to the general public. They are only accountable to the cronies who put them in office. This is far different from my MEP, who I am able to vote in or out every five years.
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