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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:23:28 AM   
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Isn't it convenient that the dictator of that third world shithole is the one who decides what is and is not slander?



The government doesn't decide. The courts decide.


Sweetie the courts are the government.
Jeusus you are phoquing stupid.



You seem to be claiming that a nazi style dictatorship is a democracy.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



Democracy is when people can choose their government.

Which is not how it is done in that third world shithole called singapore.


So even if the US one day, vote for a White Supremacist Group Leader to be President, guess what?

What always happens..the e.c. appoints the president like always.


That's democracy too. Majority people's choice. Majority gets what they want.

That is not what democracy is and only an ignorant dumbass would think so.


We chose our government. Now if ONLY Obama respected the right of Libya to choose their government. He completely denied that country democracy.


What is your point?

It has been pointed out how that surplus is being given to ameirka with their purchase of amerikan military hardware. How many f35's at 300+ million a copy?


All you have pointed out is our government is rich,

Because of the 60% tax on all income in that third world shithole called singapore.


very good at balancing budgets to have surpluses every year,

Pretty easy when you steal 60% of a workers income.

and has alot of money to spend on military after all that. And on top of that, they don't even have touch our reserve for military spending. It's all budgeted for.


I have posted links that say you are full of shit.


You have provided zero evidence that they used our reserve to pay for those military equipment.


You have shown us time and time again that you cannot do simple sums.
I have cited the cost of acquisition and maintainance for the military hardware that amerika has sold that third world shithole called singapore. Your reserve is gone. How many f 35's at $300+ million a copy plus spares.
then of course there is the up front costs that your nazi boss pony'd up for r&d said to exceed 10billion.



And yes, we do buy lots of military stuffs from the US. We can afford to, so why not stock up!

Only third of the population in that third world shit hole called singapore live below the poverty line so how much longer will the money last before they come for yours




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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:24:15 AM   
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I am certainly not an expert on the UE but according to THIS link the differential was closer to 37 percent not 65. According to the link Germany received 44 percent back...so the UK was the largest percentage contributor.

Butch


although I hardly believe that the Daily Torygraph would forget Margaret Thatcher they probably forgot her famous "I want my money back" - and that from then on she/the UK not only got that but more back every year ever since.

And no the UK never was the largest percentage contributor - in all likeliness this would be Finland (in % of national GNP, minus returns).

Ask the British about the reliability of British tabloids ...

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:27:08 AM   
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Seems pointless even mentioning that one, sadly. The attitude among the dimmer members of the American right seems to be that if Murdoch owns it, then it has to be the best source ever.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:30:05 AM   
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Maybe the BBC would be better... HERE.. check out the net contribution tab...the UK is number two in net contributions.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:31:51 AM   
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The Beeb is doomed.
It isn't just the Doctor Who fans who find that one depressing...

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:46:31 AM   
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Maybe the BBC would be better... HERE.. check out the net contribution tab...the UK is number two in net contributions.

Butch

you said so above - quite correctly.
The brexiters always stated how much Britain pays - how much went back again was hardly ever mentioned.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:49:36 AM   
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Myself, I just find the idea that the saving will go into the NHS (or any other public service) depressingly hilarious.
Anybody stupid enough to think that this might happen probably deserves a lot worse.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:50:30 AM   
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I don't think how much they get back is important... it is the net contribution that does... don't you think? I am not making the point to justify their leaving... Only to point out it MAY hurt the UE more than the UK.

Butch

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:52:04 AM   
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I don't think how much they get back is important... it is the net contribution that does... don't you think?

Butch

It's important to the fucking Scots: that's the only reason they have a functioning healthcare system up here, whatever shite Salmond was spouting about the oil industry before the last referendum.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:55:53 AM   
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Myself, I just find the idea that the saving will go into the NHS (or any other public service) depressingly hilarious.
Anybody stupid enough to think that this might happen probably deserves a lot worse.


The funny thing this morning was watching Farage being interviewed on live TV and having to admit he was wrong to say that the £350m a week would go to the NHS. Basically he was saying " Sorry to all of that believed me and voted out because of it. Too late now" And yes people did vote out because they thought he was telling the truth (yes we have gormless people here too)

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 10:56:49 AM   
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In the long run I do not see a large hit to the UK’s economy, unless the EU retaliates with economic penalties. I really do not think they can do that effectively without damaging their own economies.

I believe there is a good chance the UK will survive just fine and at least break even economically…without having to pay membership in the UE or dealing with the disastrous EU immigration policies. If this happens I believe more members will follow the UK’s example.



The EU, in my opinion, is neither likely to "retaliate" nor be revengeful. There are regulations for non-members like Norway, Switzerland, Iceland to be a part of the European common market - all differing in details like regulations about freedom of personal movement. BUT: these cost money nonetheless, these countries also contribute their shares to the costs of the common market.

But the Brexiters never announced what kind of regulations they would have in mind, following the Norwegian, Swiss, Icelandic example or something completely different. They also forgot to mention that whatever happens the UK would have to contribute (pay) to the common market any way.

The EU lost a net paying country. But for decades the UK was refunded with more than 65% of what they paid. So the net loss for the EU revenue is far less than the figures permanently announced by Boris and the kippers. And the common market will cost some of that money nonetheless.



This was John Oliver's take on it from Sunday night (pre-vote).. seems they they wont gain much/anything by leaving..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAgKHSNqxa8 Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Brexit
John Oliver enlists a barbershop quartet to propose a smarter option.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 11:03:42 AM   
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I don't think how much they get back is important... it is the net contribution that does... don't you think? I am not making the point to justify their leaving... Only to point out it MAY hurt the UE more than the UK.

Butch


As a humble German tax-payer and thus one of those whose tax money is most likely to be used to compensate that loss of net contribution I say it will hurt, and did so above. About that money moving back to the UK no longer - ask the Scots, or British farmers, or anyone at British universities whether they get refunded for what they ll lose. It 'll take some time, but we'll see within the next years.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 11:06:41 AM   
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FR> Fucking tories wont be happy till the NHS is like the US
Fucking dickshits.
Did Farage actually say, “And we will have done it without having to fight, without a single bullet being fired.”
fucking ignorant cunt.


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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 11:08:05 AM   
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Boris Johnson looks like one of them WTF kidlike things out of a horror movie.



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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 11:13:35 AM   
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Boris Johnson looks like one of them WTF kidlike things out of a horror movie.




So we get Boris as PM to go with you having Trump. What a perfect world that will be.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 11:21:42 AM   
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I voted to leave and I also happen to think it's a good idea.
Long story short: yes, there will be hiccups along the way, that's a given.
However, what those hiccups are and how bad they are would be down to the how the government of the day deals with it.
The £ will dip, as will the markets but I think, in the end, it will rally round.
I feel the long term gains far outweigh the short-term hiccups.
We are, after all, the world's 5th largest trading country and our recovery/growth is better than any other EU country by a mile.

When we joined, we made a total of 9 countries.
It worked for us - in many ways.
Any changes made only required the agreement of those 9.
Pretty much most of the countries were affluent.
That can't be said for the raft of recent joiners from the Eastern Block countries - and those still waiting in the queue.
We are the second highest net contributor to the EU.
As for those rebates, we don't get to decide where and how that money is spend for the most part - Brussels decides that.
Even if we gain nothing fiscally by leaving, at least we get to decide where that money is spent and we aren't governed by a bunch of non-elected beaurocrats that we can't fire.

Since the invention of the 'Euro' currency, the forever tightening noose of the forming of the superstate, it doesn't work for us any more - on a number of different fronts.
Add the problem of trying to change anything now requires the agreement of 28 countries with vastly differing cultures and societies, makes it virtually impossible.
One MP said that the EU couldn't agree on an Indian take-out let alone anything serious.
According to comments made in the last couple of days, the last 70 applications for change that we've made to Brussels in the last 5 years has met with a stone wall. I'd hardly call that having a 'productive' seat at the negotiation table. Would you??
So Cameron's talk of changing Europe for the better (for us) from inside the EU is a remote pipe dream at best.
And he kept banging on about the 550 million EU customers.
Big deal. There's 2.3 billion customers worldwide that we cannot make direct trade agreements with because of EU regulations.
And I've not even touched on immigration or the shedloads of stupid red tape that small & medium businesses have to battle with just to do any business outside of the domestic market.
Why can't we sell local produce cheaply to local communities that isn't quite the right shape or size? EU rules prohibit the selling of these. Fucking stupid!!


On the whole, having seen us join in 1973 and watched it evolve over the last 40+ years, I think we're better off out of this hell-hole than trying to live within it.


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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 12:11:38 PM   
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Myself, I just find the idea that the saving will go into the NHS (or any other public service) depressingly hilarious.
Anybody stupid enough to think that this might happen probably deserves a lot worse.


The funny thing this morning was watching Farage being interviewed on live TV and having to admit he was wrong to say that the £350m a week would go to the NHS. Basically he was saying " Sorry to all of that believed me and voted out because of it. Too late now" And yes people did vote out because they thought he was telling the truth (yes we have gormless people here too)


Me, I'm just waiting for the tantrum from the Scots when it emerges that the (evil racist, anti-Jock) government down south can't possibly match the subsidies Scotland had previously been getting from the EU, and has no real interest in trying.

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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 12:12:47 PM   
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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 12:28:11 PM   
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Myself, I just find the idea that the saving will go into the NHS (or any other public service) depressingly hilarious.
Anybody stupid enough to think that this might happen probably deserves a lot worse.


The funny thing this morning was watching Farage being interviewed on live TV and having to admit he was wrong to say that the £350m a week would go to the NHS. Basically he was saying " Sorry to all of that believed me and voted out because of it. Too late now" And yes people did vote out because they thought he was telling the truth (yes we have gormless people here too)


Me, I'm just waiting for the tantrum from the Scots when it emerges that the (evil racist, anti-Jock) government down south can't possibly match the subsidies Scotland had previously been getting from the EU, and has no real interest in trying.


Well, they voted in the UK and in the EU. They are not like our southern red welfare states, they aint biting the hand that feeds them.



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RE: Brexit Vote Results - 6/24/2016 12:40:25 PM   
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We are, after all, the world's 5th largest trading country


No, you're not -- you're the world's 5th largest importer. And all that's gonna cost more now.

You're the 10th largest exporter. Even the Netherlands and Italy are ahead (as are France and Germany).

http://www.austrade.gov.au/News/Economics-at-Austrade/the-worlds-leading-trading-nations

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