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vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 7:52:13 AM)
Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes.

vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 7:59:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JeffBC quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail But it was the nutsuckers that have done all the depriving of constitutionally protected rights all along, as has been demonstrated repeatedly and factually. I don't know about that. Seems like Obama, at a bare minimum, has done a fine job shredding the bill of rights. I was too politically naive to be tracking previous administrations but I know Obama is no fan of the constitution or any rights of the people. For the most part, politicians grok corporate rights now not individual rights. That's true for both parties. And how do you know of Obama's alleged distaste for the constitution? Any specifics? You know he taught constitutional law, right?

Musicmystery -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 8:19:42 AM)
Jeff is right. Bush rent it, Obama aka Bush Lite continued Bush's policies, and Hilary is halfway between them, stepping back to the Bush era.

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 9:57:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. Everything I said has been common knowledge for a very long time.

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 10:01:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. This from an Obama apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 10:07:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. Then there is this This morning I wrote a post about a Homeland Security paper that warned about “right wing extremists” and the threat that they may pose to the government. This paper basically lumped in people who are either pro second amendment, anti abortion, anti illegal immigration, or pro smaller government (or more than one or all of the above) with white supremacists and domestic terrorists. As maddening as I found that paper there was one aspect to the paper that I missed this morning and to me it is much more egregious. This is what the Department of Homeland Security thinks about our military men and women who are overseas fighting on our behalf: the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks That is unforgivable. To suggest that some of our troops will come home and form or join terrorist groups is beyond reprehensible. And why suddenly is the Department of Homeland Security suddenly using the “T” word again when talking about our troops when they refuse to call the actual terrorists what they are?

mnottertail -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 10:10:20 AM)
Basically it did not. Even with huge hallucinatory non-English language speaking or comprehending nutsuckers in advanced felch it did not. Once again your continuous lying has been shown.

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 10:14:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. Then there is this.

mnottertail -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 10:21:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. Then there is this. And you do that so well, don't you. Because the actual quotes prove you wrong in every case. You cant go around and get the other factless nutsuckers whipped into their frenetic frenzies with facts, because as we know thru nutsuckerism: Facts are stupid things. ~St. Wrinklemeat

Musicmystery -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 12:34:50 PM)
~FR~ I was once in Jamaica after a relationship break-up. I was all set to board a plane home, but this guy Bob told me "No woman no fly..."

lovmuffin -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 3:13:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery ~FR~ I was once in Jamaica after a relationship break-up. I was all set to board a plane home, but this guy Bob told me "No woman no fly..." Are you sure he wasn't asking you what do airplanes do ? [8D]

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 3:39:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. How about this. (CNSNews.com) – More than six years after a Muslim army major shot dead 13 people at Fort Hood, President Obama on Sunday night – for what may be the first time – publicly identified it as a terrorist attack. In his primetime Oval Office address on the threat of terrorism in the wake of last week’s attack in San Bernardino, California, Obama said the threat had evolved in the years since 9/11. “As we’ve become better at preventing complex attacks like 9/11, terrorists turn to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all too common in our society,” he said. “It is this type of attack that we saw at Fort Hood in 2009, in Chattanooga earlier this year and now in San Bernardino.”

vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 4:36:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. This from an Obama apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI So, Obama said the Constitution was a remarkable political achievement and still is with the post Civil War amendments but it originally reflected a moral flaw because it treated some people badly as a group and that flaw is reflected today. You find this to be what? a mischaracterization of the original constitution? Seems to me he was quite accurate, considering the 3/5ths compromise. Tell me please how this shows even the slightest disrespect for the Constitution. Keep in mind that there is no libel in truth.

vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 4:38:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. Then there is this This morning I wrote a post about a Homeland Security paper that warned about “right wing extremists” and the threat that they may pose to the government. This paper basically lumped in people who are either pro second amendment, anti abortion, anti illegal immigration, or pro smaller government (or more than one or all of the above) with white supremacists and domestic terrorists. As maddening as I found that paper there was one aspect to the paper that I missed this morning and to me it is much more egregious. This is what the Department of Homeland Security thinks about our military men and women who are overseas fighting on our behalf: the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks That is unforgivable. To suggest that some of our troops will come home and form or join terrorist groups is beyond reprehensible. And why suddenly is the Department of Homeland Security suddenly using the “T” word again when talking about our troops when they refuse to call the actual terrorists what they are? An unattributed quote not worth using to wipe my ass.

mnottertail -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 4:38:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. How about this. (CNSNews.com) – More than six years after a Muslim army major shot dead 13 people at Fort Hood, President Obama on Sunday night – for what may be the first time – publicly identified it as a terrorist attack. In his primetime Oval Office address on the threat of terrorism in the wake of last week’s attack in San Bernardino, California, Obama said the threat had evolved in the years since 9/11. “As we’ve become better at preventing complex attacks like 9/11, terrorists turn to less complicated acts of violence like the mass shootings that are all too common in our society,” he said. “It is this type of attack that we saw at Fort Hood in 2009, in Chattanooga earlier this year and now in San Bernardino.” And you are bragging this fuck became a major under bush and the nutsuckers or what?

vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 5:02:11 PM)
Bama quote: How about this. (CNSNews.com) – More than six years after a Muslim army major shot dead 13 people at Fort Hood, President Obama on Sunday night – for what may be the first time – publicly identified it as a terrorist attack. Gawd, the Reverend Robertson's news service! Could there be any bias there? From the Wiki article on the Ft. Hood shooting: The United States Department of Defense and federal law enforcement agencies had classified the shootings as an act of workplace violence.[10] This was changed by the Fiscal Year 2015 National Defense Authorization Act which broadened the criteria for awarding the Purple Heart to include "an attack by a foreign terrorist organization….if the attack was inspired or motivated by the foreign terrorist organization." This allowed the Army to award the Purple Heart, and its civilian equivalent, The Defense of Freedom Medal, to victims of the attack. SNIP The U.S. government declined requests from survivors and family members of the slain to categorize the Fort Hood shooting as an act of terrorism, or motivated by militant Islamic religious convictions.[14] In November 2011, a group of survivors and family members filed a lawsuit against the government for negligence in preventing the attack, and to force the government to classify the shootings as terrorism. The Pentagon argued that charging Hasan with terrorism was not possible within the military justice system and that such action could harm the military prosecutors' ability to sustain a guilty verdict against Hasan.[10] And that is the rest of the story that says your slander of Obama is bullshit. Ahhh, our first black president. Makes me proud to have voted for him . . . twice. Gave me hope that we could put our tragic past behind us. But, maybe not.

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 5:34:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. This from an Obama apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI So, Obama said the Constitution was a remarkable political achievement and still is with the post Civil War amendments but it originally reflected a moral flaw because it treated some people badly as a group and that flaw is reflected today. You find this to be what? a mischaracterization of the original constitution? Seems to me he was quite accurate, considering the 3/5ths compromise. Tell me please how this shows even the slightest disrespect for the Constitution. Keep in mind that there is no libel in truth. Yes I find it a mischaracterazation of the Constitution, particularly combined with his capaign promise to fundamentally change the United States. Now surely your remember that, it came in right behind hope and change.

vincentML -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 5:47:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. This from an Obama apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI So, Obama said the Constitution was a remarkable political achievement and still is with the post Civil War amendments but it originally reflected a moral flaw because it treated some people badly as a group and that flaw is reflected today. You find this to be what? a mischaracterization of the original constitution? Seems to me he was quite accurate, considering the 3/5ths compromise. Tell me please how this shows even the slightest disrespect for the Constitution. Keep in mind that there is no libel in truth. Yes I find it a mischaracterazation of the Constitution, particularly combined with his capaign promise to fundamentally change the United States. Now surely your remember that, iy came in right behind hope and change. Was the original Constitution not flawed through its compromise with Southern slaveholders? You can seriously say that it was not? Is racism, prejudice against people of color, still not a flaw in our nation?

BamaD -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 6:15:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Bama quote: He issues executive orders to do things that Congress has voted down, and he pushes government control of more of the the country. That doesn't mean that those who oppose him are angels but right now he is the worst of the bunch. Do you know that he waited over 2 years to admit that Ft Hood was a terrorist attack? And that he refuses to admit that any terrorist attack can come from the Jihadists? When he first came into office he declared that we would no longer use the term terror attack and instead call them man made disasters? Or that his head of DHS said that the greatest security threat the U S faced was U S veterens? When they said that I couldn't help but wonder what they planned to do that would piss us off that bad. Bullshit without links to quotes. This from an Obama apologist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_xNyrzB0xI So, Obama said the Constitution was a remarkable political achievement and still is with the post Civil War amendments but it originally reflected a moral flaw because it treated some people badly as a group and that flaw is reflected today. You find this to be what? a mischaracterization of the original constitution? Seems to me he was quite accurate, considering the 3/5ths compromise. Tell me please how this shows even the slightest disrespect for the Constitution. Keep in mind that there is no libel in truth. Yes I find it a mischaracterazation of the Constitution, particularly combined with his capaign promise to fundamentally change the United States. Now surely your remember that, iy came in right behind hope and change. Was the original Constitution not flawed through its compromise with Southern slaveholders? You can seriously say that it was not? Is racism, prejudice against people of color, still not a flaw in our nation? Do you not realize that the 3/5 compromise was the first blow agaisnt slavery and all of the seeds to destroy slavery were planted with the compromises made at that time. As for racism at the college were I got my degree I heard about how white people had no part in building this country, the school was 95% black. Since then I have been accused of racism because a black guy because he heard me talking about Clinton ripping off veterans so he assumed since I am white I was attacking Obama , and that the only possible reason for disagreeing with Obama would be that I was racist. Yep there is racism.

thompsonx -> RE: Why isn't no fly a denial of due process? (6/28/2016 8:28:58 PM)
ORIGINAL: BamaD Yes I find it a mischaracterazation of the Constitution, particularly combined with his capaign promise to fundamentally change the United States. Did not the 13 ammendment fundamentally change amerika?

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