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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 2:25:38 AM

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You're increasingly coming across as a whining, angry, little victim. It's pitiful.

Doesn't this remind you of a feminist an awful lot? The irony!

How many feminists aren't hypocrites? heh

As to the story in the OP, I'm sure feminists would blame patriarchy for it. I get entertained watching feminists criticise others for playing the blame game when feminists are the biggest bloody blamers on the planet. Try asking a feminist what isn't the fault of patriarchy, or ask a feminist to show you feminist literature where something is the fault of women, not men/patriarchy. You will likely hear crickets.

As feminists mostly leave half of the story on DV out, they do tend to paint a picture where only men seem to be violent. I've never seen a feminist protest against violent women.

With cases where women hurt children, it's common for them to wiggle out with some pussypass where making excuses like mental illness gives her leniency or blaming her actions on a man if he's involved.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 3:10:19 AM

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You're increasingly coming across as a whining, angry, little victim. It's pitiful.

Doesn't this remind you of a feminist an awful lot? The irony!

In common with others on this thread, it mostly reminded me of you. Oh the irony.

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How many feminists aren't hypocrites? heh

Babble.

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As to the story in the OP, I'm sure feminists would blame patriarchy for it.

Of course you are, because you're obsessed with feminists, just like the OP. Your abject terror makes you stupid.

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I get entertained watching feminists criticise others for playing the blame game when feminists are the biggest bloody blamers on the planet. Try asking a feminist what isn't the fault of patriarchy, or ask a feminist to show you feminist literature where something is the fault of women, not men/patriarchy. You will likely hear crickets.

As feminists mostly leave half of the story on DV out, they do tend to paint a picture where only men seem to be violent. I've never seen a feminist protest against violent women.

You're clueless. DV is a serious issue, that is addressed by many feminists, both in terms of male and female perpetrators. But, you don't bother to do any research, and you wallow in your ignorance.

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With cases where women hurt children, it's common for them to wiggle out with some pussypass where making excuses like mental illness gives her leniency or blaming her actions on a man if he's involved.

More gynophobic nonsense.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:19:15 AM

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AwarenessI don't see this as the fault of any feminist movement or diminished responsibility card. I don't really see too much enabling on this site, but ive witnessed it to staggering degrees on other sites and its often men who are easily the most guilty, and the women they enable teaming up with others of their kind - is what i see. And I see little in they way of anyone trying to stop this behaviour, or at least minimise it, other than me and that costs me bans (those other places not here).

There's two aspects to this:

First off, female aggressors are enabled by domestic violence laws which automatically arrest men. In any domestic violence confrontation regardless of who the perpetrator is, police forces have guidelines which mean they arrest the largest and least hysterical individual. One guess which gender that is.

Second, women suffer from a bias known as "own-group preference" which sees them automatically side with other women, regardless of the merits of the situation. You'll see this expressed most often in cases when women commit violence against men, the instant response is, "He must have deserved it."

So when men commit violence against women, it's their fault and the woman is innocent. When women commit violence against men, it's the man's fault and the woman is innocent. Consequently female on male violence is enabled.

This is despite statistics showing that lesbian relationships are the most violent and gay male relationships are the most peaceful. This is despite statistics showing that in the 50% of cases when domestic violence is not bidirectional, the woman is the sole perpetrator 70% of the time.

Basically, women are more inherently violent than men and it's time we start educating them and teaching them not to assault and murder.

Second, feminists are constantly attempting to erase male victims of female violence by either pretending they don't exist or by mocking them and engaging in victim-blaming.

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When I saw the sentence I was very surprised (not that I think its long enough) - I don't see any feminism within that quite the opposite. ive no idea if they tried and played the I grew up in a bad home, abusive home, abusive relationship etc card - most of us to one extent or another. Most of us at some point has been in an abusive relationship or known some who has/is.

See dude, what you're doing here is reflecting feminist values. Two women commit an horrific crime and you try and explain away their culpability by finding someone or something else to blame.

When men commit crimes, they're evil. When women commit crimes, they're victims. This is the inherent logic of the unrepentant man-hating feminist.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:27:05 AM

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LOL

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:27:27 AM

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The constant refrain that they "can't possibly hurt a man" leads to excusing the violent tendencies of women. Decades of statistics have shown that women are as equally - if not more so - violent as men, yet the feminist victim-hood industry attempts to portray domestic violence as a male problem.

The problem with all human beings, male or female is the test comes when they are bigger and stronger, will they be kind? Unfortunately male usually are the physically stronger and bigger one, so there is more female victims than male victims in marriages.

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Liam Fee was a two year old boy murdered by his lesbian mother and her female partner. They beat him so badly his heart ruptured, but not before they broke his leg and fractured his arm, then spent time googling the internet for "can wives be in prison together"?
This child is dead because the feminist movement's enabling of women's violent behaviour continues unabated.

This cannot possibly be a female specific problem since many men have physically abused their own child as well. This is again, a problem of being bigger and stronger and abusing your powers. And this isn't a gender thing!

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"We should stop putting women in jail.

I seriously do not believe any sane woman believes in this! Every mother will want those lesbian child abusers on an electric chair! Every woman who is not insane! I have never heard any women within my circle ever claim that women are infallible of crimes.

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Oh, and one other thing: Lesbian relationships are, by far, the most violent relationships. And yet, strangely, we don't have feminists calling for education programs for lesbians to teach them not to assault and murder. How astonishing.

Not true in my country. Lesbian relationships are often extremely sweet, and they are exaggerated romantic version of the perfect male. I've been chased by lesbians twice in my life and they are seriously super sweet and loving. And would play the role of like a "gentleman", offering to chauffeur you everywhere, offering to pay all the time, buying you gifts, bring you flowers etc. One of them always checked on me when I'm still in office late if I needed dinner and she'll deliver it to me. I always find that, they work harder to make you love them, because they are so afraid to lose you to males. But unfortunately I am straight and it can get quite uncomfortable to turn them down and explain that you're totally straight. But they sure take rejection better than men. No abuse, tantrum, nothing. They will just look sad and try not to bother you again.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:35:56 AM

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Who's Milo and why do we care what s/he says?

Milo's an English gay conservative cultural libertarian who provokes the left into irrational fascist responses by poking at their sacred cows. He's fairly right-wing so I disagree with a lot of his contentions but he's absolutely on point when it comes to the left's use of safe-spaces, micro-aggressions and feminist nonsense as a means of censoring opinions they disagree with.

He's been doing a tour of college campuses, "The Dangerous Faggot Tour" and has been quite successful in exposing the left's explicit desire to erase free speech. He thinks rape culture is nonsense, feminists are monumental liars and that the gay community is lying by claiming people are "born gay" - his own view is that being gay is 50/50 nature and nurture, which is an interesting viewpoint for a gay man to hold.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:41:06 AM

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Who's Milo and why do we care what s/he says?

Milo's a MRA activist

No. He's not.

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and a widely admired fart, sorry thinker, who is highly regarded for squeezing his facial pustules into the camera - pustules that were all entirely caused by the libtard feminazi leftie commie movement, all over the Internet, DC. He's to be majorly respected because he's even on YouTube. No female on the planet wants him to get into her pants because they consider that he's a world class creep - which only goes to show how the feminazi movement has swayed the minds of women as a sex.

He's gay. So women are pretty fucking unlikely to get him into their pants, but I find it monumentally amusing that your automatic unthinking response to anyone who opposes your idiocy is to claim that women don't want them.

I can't tell you how incredibly funny it is to watch an effete submissive male feminist attempt to use women's lack of approval as an actual argument. You're so hopelessly weak you think other men are as desperate for female approval as you are - even gay men. No wonder you're so self-loathing.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 6:43:08 AM

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is milo the same fool as you...awareness.. or are you just another sad lonely pathetic person, who needs to provoke responses.
relationships in all sexuality depend on the people.
SO AWARENESS look me up. you moron. and if you are in the states, you douchebag//asshole..
AND HAVE A NICE DAY.

Dude! It's good to see you stop pretending to be a woman.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 7:01:42 AM

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That poor baby boy. So sad.

Lesbians aren't terrifying, people are. Lesbians who kill are no different then anyone that kills. Killers or abusers are just that, they either have a vagina or a penis.
The results are the same, whatever way they chose to do the unthinkable.
What they all have in common is hate, resentment, low or no morals, no respect, no empathy, no peace of mind. Lack of impulse control, no trigger that pops up and says "hey there are major consequences to this" and drug abuse in a lot of cases drowns that trigger where they might have heard it otherwise.
Most of it begins in childhood because they were subject to the same people who had the same problems. And the cruelty of others words in school or elsewhere to create a volcano ready to erupt.
No resolution to the resentments such as in therapy, no letting go of the past just gets worse as a person gets older.
As far as domestic abuse goes, if both the man and woman show mutual wounds or bruises, guess what they BOTH go to jail. I know several cases too, where men have kids, keep the house and the ex wife pays child support! That's right. I must live in a bubble or something, that's the way they do it here.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 8:33:27 AM

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I admit it I am not a woman I am a lesbian, and you have no chance. xx

and at over 250 lbs. all you can move is your fat mouth. a real male ?? bitch.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 10:31:37 AM

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I admit it I am not a woman I am a lesbian, and you have no chance. xx

You're not a woman, you're a lesbian. So... lesbians aren't women? I see, that makes perfect sense.

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and at over 250 lbs. all you can move is your fat mouth. a real male ?? bitch.

GET IN MAH BELLEE!

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 10:53:44 AM

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JeffBC I already broke down ops argument, and I was not the first to do so, nor last - and I think him sick myself. I just don't see how your words are any better 2 women out of roughly 170,000,000 did a bad thing do you see/hear what I am saying? its nothing personal I totally get you, but not the figures you quoth.

Abuse is common was one of my points, & one of them landed what is long refereed to as an unlucky punch/hit/skelp/blow...is how this case of horrific abuse came to light - and that is but a drop in a vast ocean.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 12:18:01 PM

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Milo's an English gay conservative cultural libertarian who provokes the left into irrational fascist responses by poking at their sacred cows.

I guess he's not too good at it as I don't recall ever hearing about him.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 12:26:21 PM

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Abuse is common was one of my points, & one of them landed what is long refereed to as an unlucky punch/hit/skelp/blow...is how this case of horrific abuse came to light - and that is but a drop in a vast ocean.

Then let us discuss this vast ocean... exactly as I said previously. Before we can discuss it though, we're going to need some studies to cite and it's not my job to provide supporting evidence for someone else's argument.

My numbers were only and exactly those that the OP quoted. That is exactly why both my numbers and the OP's logic chain are stupid.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 12:28:54 PM

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Abuse is common was one of my points, & one of them landed what is long refereed to as an unlucky punch/hit/skelp/blow...is how this case of horrific abuse came to light - and that is but a drop in a vast ocean.

Then let us discuss this vast ocean... exactly as I said previously. Before we can discuss it though, we're going to need some studies to cite and it's not my job to provide supporting evidence for someone else's argument.

My numbers were only and exactly those that the OP quoted. That is exactly why both my numbers and the OP's logic chain are stupid.

Well, obviously, but claiming that a minority element of a group represents the group as a whole is a given for certain sorts of terrified reactionary fucktards in here, isn't it?
(A subset of the terrified reactionary fucktards in here as a whole, natch.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 12:46:52 PM

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I admit it I am not a woman I am a lesbian, and you have no chance. xx

and at over 250 lbs. all you can move is your fat mouth. a real male ?? bitch.

I admit it. I am a woman. You certainly aren't stating my weight not that it matters.
Maybe you state your own weight, which doesn't matter. Your fat ass mouth could possibly get a victory foot on your chest after your ass is kicked and you are hauled off by Crain and the men giving the orders.
Tsk tsk. Kiss off.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 1:07:23 PM

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Well, obviously, but claiming that a minority element of a group represents the group as a whole is a given for certain sorts of terrified reactionary fucktards in here, isn't it?
(A subset of the terrified reactionary fucktards in here as a whole, natch. )

The funny thing is that I agree with the OP's general argument and I've done research in the past to support it, not to mention seen it in action personally. Yes, in certain types of cases I believe there is a legal bias in favor of women. Yes, in a broad sense, that's the work of feminism.

Where I disagree is that if we're going to discuss that, then we should. That implies studies and citations not one or a handful of anecdotes. In addition, I'm ill-inclined to throw the baby out with the bath water. So I'd much prefer to specifically address the places where feminism has tipped the pendulum too far. It is inevitable that such places exist. No change this large happens flawlessly. I'm absolutely an advocate of addressing the errors when found. None of that seems like a good reason to jettison the entire notion of gender equality.

I actually firmly believe we need a "Men's Lib" movement but this isn't the way to do it.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 1:13:34 PM

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I actually firmly believe we need a "Men's Lib" movement but this isn't the way to do it.

That's a shame, because this sort of hysterical whining bullshit is obviously all that we're going to get.
Pathetic, innit?

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 1:41:23 PM

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That's a shame, because this sort of hysterical whining bullshit is obviously all that we're going to get.
Pathetic, innit?

Well, it may be all we get here. But in the larger world serious efforts are underway. I'd say those efforts are still in the coalescing stage but they are under way. In fact some of them are spearheaded by women who are uncomfortable with the messaging their sons are getting in school. That seems to contradict the notion that women are the enemy and, instead, suggest that there's some particular subset of feminists who are loons. But hey, that sounds way too reasonable for a political discussion on the internet.

Honestly, when you look at it, this is the same sort of reasoning that concludes that "Muslims are the enemy" or, for that matter, Democrats or Republicans are the enemy. It's simply intellectually lazy bull.

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RE: Milo says: "Lesbians are terrifying!" - 7/7/2016 1:44:41 PM

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In fact some of them are spearheaded by women who are uncomfortable with the messaging their sons are getting in school. That seems to contradict the notion that women are the enemy and, instead, suggest that there's some particular subset of feminists who are loons. But hey, that sounds way too reasonable for a political discussion on the internet.

Quite. We can't have that sort of daft talk in here, can we?

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