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ORIGINAL: Lookin4Lace

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

When I originaly posted these figures I gave sources .
Sme are from combining sources for example wikipedia will give you international suicide rates and the US murder rate is easy to find. You just add the US murder rate to the US suicide rate and compare that number to the suicide rates on the wikipedia suicide list and it jumps out at you.

And no, even if I didn't give sources or give them the way you want them doesn't make me a liar, saying it does is just a cheap way of trying to ignore the facts.

no you did not give sources, if you did, please post them again

I gave you this link and you ignored it...
why?>??
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4927260

PS Lookie...I can give another link, I can give government statistics, not links to online "news" sources.
Everybody can look directly at the sources, but they dont.
They prefer to gob off and use the wrong terminology or use apples to orange comparisons.
Like Homicides to firearms offences, and saying, they are the same.
And ignoring the actual factual statistics. while not posting their sources and expect to be taken seriously

As much as i agree with you LL, i must say its not that far out of context to say the American people are programed to be violent by nature
Yeah you can quote bi-lines, and post interweb links till we are all blue in the face, cause we all know that if its on the internet it must be true.

No i am not trying to start a fight or pick one with you i am simply pointing out that it is human nature to start wars wether domestic or foreign it is in our genes just look at all of the wars we have been apart of.

And don't think our civil deffense is free of that as well, it is in our governments best intrests to keep our focus elsewhere
We as a nation ARE being numbed by our social media, our news and our daily pod and tv broadcasts, our nation thrives on crime and corruption
So why become angry about it when things like this happen?

Our everyday life revolves around our court systems, our police, our military, and our lack of human rights, oh and lets not forget the big issue with "*guns and the rights to bear them"
Hmm you doubt what i say is true fine you are entitled to your own beliefs
But here are some simple facts with the ever important interweb links that everyone takes for gospel

In the USA THERE HAVE BEEN 3,715 tv shows, movies, and sitcoms based solely around our judicial system, crime and corruption

.links will be in my next rely as i am having issues of them being placed where they should be when entered

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Hmm you doubt what i say is true fine you are entitled to your own beliefs

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Gun deaths....Not death by potato masher...personally I want to go out being ravished by a pack or rampaging big breasted nymphomaniacs in finest corsetry and boots, and to lose count at about 342.5, when the delirium sets in.

Murder rates you are 4 times higher although the US figures seems more than a little of to me.
Murder/homicide:
US 12 253 surely you cannot just shoot each other where is the sport in that- what was the death homicide by gun in 2013 anyone i the USA?
UK (was 601) which would have been 3000 if we had the same population

well fuk me lets see if we can beat you at suicides. Alas nope. You best us by that a factor of 2 and I know we cannot best you for kids accidentally blowing their parents brains all over the place

Death by gun in America is far too high, and then some. Only the barking mad and sophists argue otherwise

And remind me never to go to Honduras

There are several countries in Europe where the suicide rate alone exceeds our combined murder and suicide rates. And the only way you can dismiss non firearms murders is if you suffer from the delusiion that you are not as dead if you are knifed as you are if you are shot.

(Once again....no links...ergo....lies....lying liars....lacking in link liars.....)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

When I originaly posted these figures I gave sources .
Sme are from combining sources for example wikipedia will give you international suicide rates and the US murder rate is easy to find. You just add the US murder rate to the US suicide rate and compare that number to the suicide rates on the wikipedia suicide list and it jumps out at you.

And no, even if I didn't give sources or give them the way you want them doesn't make me a liar, saying it does is just a cheap way of trying to ignore the facts.

no you did not give sources, if you did, please post them again

I gave you this link and you ignored it...
why?>??
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4927260

PS Lookie...I can give another link, I can give government statistics, not links to online "news" sources.
Everybody can look directly at the sources, but they dont.
They prefer to gob off and use the wrong terminology or use apples to orange comparisons.
Like Homicides to firearms offences, and saying, they are the same.
And ignoring the actual factual statistics. while not posting their sources and expect to be taken seriously

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

When I originaly posted these figures I gave sources .
Sme are from combining sources for example wikipedia will give you international suicide rates and the US murder rate is easy to find. You just add the US murder rate to the US suicide rate and compare that number to the suicide rates on the wikipedia suicide list and it jumps out at you.

And no, even if I didn't give sources or give them the way you want them doesn't make me a liar, saying it does is just a cheap way of trying to ignore the facts.

no you did not give sources, if you did, please post them again

I gave you this link and you ignored it...
why?>??
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4927260

PS Lookie...I can give another link, I can give government statistics, not links to online "news" sources.
Everybody can look directly at the sources, but they dont.
They prefer to gob off and use the wrong terminology or use apples to orange comparisons.
Like Homicides to firearms offences, and saying, they are the same.
And ignoring the actual factual statistics. while not posting their sources and expect to be taken seriously

What a fool. Proven by the fact that you accept the lead of Gomer Pyle.
It's pretty gawdammed simple.....no links....it didn't happen.

ThompsonX has spelled that out multiple times!

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Gun deaths....Not death by potato masher...personally I want to go out being ravished by a pack or rampaging big breasted nymphomaniacs in finest corsetry and boots, and to lose count at about 342.5, when the delirium sets in.

Murder rates you are 4 times higher although the US figures seems more than a little of to me.
Murder/homicide:
US 12 253 surely you cannot just shoot each other where is the sport in that- what was the death homicide by gun in 2013 anyone i the USA?
UK (was 601) which would have been 3000 if we had the same population

well fuk me lets see if we can beat you at suicides. Alas nope. You best us by that a factor of 2 and I know we cannot best you for kids accidentally blowing their parents brains all over the place

Death by gun in America is far too high, and then some. Only the barking mad and sophists argue otherwise

And remind me never to go to Honduras

There are several countries in Europe where the suicide rate alone exceeds our combined murder and suicide rates. And the only way you can dismiss non firearms murders is if you suffer from the delusiion that you are not as dead if you are knifed as you are if you are shot.

(Once again....no links...ergo....lies....lying liars....lacking in link liars.....)

Ok since you aren't bright enough to follow simple directions and math I will do it for you.

There is no site showing the combined US murder and suicide rates vs the suicide rates of other countries.

However here is the info from the same source that Lucy used earlier (and if Lucy used it, it has to be good )

1 Guyana (more info) 44.2 1 70.8 1 22.1
2 South Korea (more info) 28.9 5 41.7 5 18.0
3 Sri Lanka (more info) 28.8 3 46.4 7 12.8
4 Lithuania (more info) 28.2 2 51.0 29 8.4
5 Suriname 27.8 4 44.5 11 11.9
6 Mozambique (more info) 27.4 8 34.2 2 21.1
7 Tanzania 24.9 13 31.6 4 18.3
Nepal (more info) 24.9 17 30.1 3 20.0
9 Kazakhstan (more info) 23.8 6 40.6 21 9.3
10 Burundi 23.1 9 34.1 9 12.5
11 India (more info) 21.1 22 25.8 6 16.4
12 South Sudan 19.8 19 27.1 7 12.8
13 Turkmenistan 19.6 11 32.5 32 7.5
14 Russia (more info) 19.5 7 35.1 46 6.2
Uganda 19.5 20 26.9 10 12.3
16 Hungary 19.1 12 32.4 34 7.4
17 Japan (more info) 18.5 20 26.9 17 10.1
18 Belarus 18.3 10 32.7 44 6.4
19 Zimbabwe 18.1 18 27.2 18 9.7
20 Bhutan (more info) 17.8 32 23.1 13 11.2
21 Sudan 17.2 33 23.0 12 11.5
22 Comoros 16.9 29 24.0 15 10.3
23 Ukraine (more info) 16.8 16 30.3 55 5.3
24 Poland 16.6 15 30.5 98 3.8
Equatorial Guinea 16.6 27 24.1 27 8.6
26 Eritrea 16.3 22 25.8 24 8.7
27 Latvia 16.2 14 30.7 86 4.3
Kenya 16.2 26 24.4 29 8.4
29 Malawi 16.0 30 23.9 23 8.9
30 Zambia 15.7 39 20.8 14 10.8
31 Montenegro 15.3 25 24.7 44 6.4
32 Djibouti 15.1 38 20.9 20 9.5
33 Finland 14.8 34 22.2 32 7.5
34 Belgium 14.2 36 21.0 31 7.7
35 Iceland 14.0 36 21.0 40 6.7
36 Angola 13.8 41 20.7 35 7.3
37 Moldova 13.7 27 24.1 73 4.8
38 Estonia 13.6 24 24.9 98 3.8
El Salvador 13.6 31 23.5 53 5.7
40 Myanmar 13.1 60 16.5 15 10.3
41 Trinidad and Tobago 13.0 42 20.4 46 6.2
42 Czech Republic 12.5 35 21.5 97 3.9
43 Slovenia 12.4 39 20.8 84 4.4
Serbia 12.4 44 19.9 50 5.8
Somalia 12.4 54 18.1 39 6.8
Papua New Guinea 12.4 66 15.9 22 9.1
47 France (more info) 12.3 47 19.3 49 6.0
48 Chile 12.2 49 19.0 50 5.8
Bolivia 12.2 63 16.2 28 8.5
50 Uruguay 12.1 43 20.0 61 5.2
United States

As you can see the US is tied for 50th in suicide rate with Uruguay
See if you can follow the process .
Add the US murder rate of 3.9 to the suicide rate of 12.1 and you get 16.
Are you able to follow that?
This combined rate of 16 has us tied at 29th with Mawali's suicide rate alone.
And just as I said there are over twenty countries whose suicide rate alone exceeds this and several of them are in Europe.

You need to learn that just because you don't like something doesn't make it a lie.

You also need to learn to do some basic caculations without and adult holding your hand and walking you trough it.

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......45 minutes later and you still can't even come up with.....

"uhhh....well.....uhhh......"

Keep trying bub....your day in the sun will come....as it does for everyone.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

And I like the fact that he quotes Thompson Bama................They really DO make a fine double. The bumptious guiding the clueless.

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

And I like the fact that he quotes Thompson Bama................They really DO make a fine double. The bumptious guiding the clueless.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

And I like the fact that he quotes Thompson Bama................They really DO make a fine double. The bumptious guiding the clueless.

Was my assesment that hard to follow?
Clearly it was something that wouldn't be on any site but you would think that even Jethro Boudine could follow it.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

And I like the fact that he quotes Thompson Bama................They really DO make a fine double. The bumptious guiding the clueless.

Was my assesment that hard to follow?
Clearly it was something that wouldn't be on any site but you would think that even Jethro Boudine could follow it.

Just a suggestion here, but I'm not sure that it's helping the cause that Southerners are not quite as stupid as Hollywood and less intelligent Yankees (who think movies and TV are real) make them out to be by your continual use of outsized stereotypes concocted for that very purpose.

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Since I was comparing Jethro favorably to the Yankees

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And furthermore, Jim Nabors was actually from Alabama, but moved to Cali due to health reasons.

But, honestly, have you ever heard anybody from the south who talked like he did on TV?

I haven't. Ever heard "shazayum!" from any r/l southerner? I haven't. The incessant "gollee!" maybe 2-3 times in my whole life, that when I was a kid. Though it's entirely possible I might be confusing myself with fuzzy memory in the latter instance. I might never have actually heard that myself. Which just goes to show . . .

He was a paid actor who did the job as the Hollywood writers and producers and directors demanded of him, at good pay. Who wouldn't?

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Since I was comparing Jethro favorably to the Yankees

Yes, and along with Gomer, using a Hollywood standard of dumbshittedness as way station for that estimation.

You, BTW, are not a born southerner, so there's that.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
did you add the suicide and murder rate of all the countries to get a fair count of numbers,in a list?
did you compare them?

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