Edwird
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German workers are two/thirds represented by a collective bargaining agreement obtained by unions, even if not all workers benefiting from that are members of a union.
Clearly not all unions were made equal then. Why was Germany able to produce local goods cheaper than buying it from others? Whereas UK with their Unions was unable to achieve the same thing during Thatcher time? That is the question. My understanding was goods was getting unaffordable, the made in uk ones for the locals then when she took over.
Telling me that Germany did it with their unions, doesn't explain why UK can't do the same with their Unions, when they had the Unions for so many years until Thatcher came and took them out because they couldn't achieve what Germany achieve is the big question.
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In the US, they insist you come out of the uni $20,00-80,000 in debt, just for a Bachelors degree.
How is it helping the economy when the graduates are paying banks for 5-10 years instead of buying goods and services to help commerce?
Something is not right here. Germany has the weirdest education where it's very very slow. Most people get their bachelor degree only at 30 yrs old. I mean the exchange students from Germany here are always like between 27 to 29, and they are studying in our technical college with 17 to 18 yr olds who will graduate by 20 or 21, whereas in Germany, it always seem the education system is so long and so slow, average age of graduation is 30, and that's not a Masters or a PHD. Whereas US people can get their Bachelor degree by 21 or 22 I think. If I had picked US instead of Australia. I could get into a college at 17, and graduate by 20. After all, all you need is SATs.
So considering the students will not have much disposable income until 30 yr old, whereas US students have disposable income from let's say 22 yr old onwards and by 30, when germans just start work, this 30 yr old american could already have risen in the salary scale quite decently and have shaved down a large amount of that student debt already.
I think it evens out and this logic of yours does not make sense.
First you say how great Germany is for being able to buy good merchandise at a good price, and now you turn around and immediately find something to complain about.
Is there something longstanding in the Chinese spirit whereby a person cannot go more than two hours without finding something to complain about?
I'll get to your first gripe/complaint in a moment, but in the meantime . . .
Which would you rather have; that German students graduate at 20 and when you visit the shops prices are higher, or that they graduate at 30 and prices are lower? Something to carp and complain about either way, right? So why are you complaining?
Oh wait . . .
In any case, the German education system is a lot more complicated than I could explain. But in that system, if the grades are worthy, they are shuttled off to Das Gymnasium, which starts at 6th grade and finishes at 13 years from first school, vs. 12 yrs. in the US. If not going through the Gymnasium, then it's more complicated, but in any case much better suiting the student's abilities to the workplace. Depending on the trade and it's educational course, it could be 10-11-12-14 years at whatever Beramptschule, Fachschule, etc. "Trade School," in many different directions. Apprenticeship or internship more a requirement and standard there than in the US or many other countries. Anywhere from brick layers to computer or electronic technicians.
But however long it may take some of them to get through das Gymnasium and getting the degree from die Universität, it amounts to roughly the equivalent of a Masters degree in the US, depending on the major (this according to mein deutsche geboren Lehrer, aus Nürnberg). My German born teacher from Nuremberg.
Anyway, that's all I'm good for, for now.
Happy complaints!
< Message edited by Edwird -- 7/12/2016 2:50:09 PM >
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