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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:03:08 PM   
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As pointed out before the problem isn't guns.
It is a deterioation of values.

Your values?


It is drugs.


Drugs have been here since before columbus.


It is gangs.


We have always had gangs...ever hear of jessie james,bonnie and clyde, al capone the irs.



You remove gang/drug related murders from the stats and you will see that we do not have a problem with society as a whole, but with the subculture that has no values, no morals , and lots of money to support their actions.

So if we get rid of all of the criminals there will be no more gun violence?
I think you may be onto something there. Maybe you should offer this sugestion to the cops or the fbi or the justice department?



The vast majority of those legally owned guns are owned by that vasr majority of people who would only turn their weapon against another person in self defense.

You have told us many times you would just love to kill someone who "deserved" it.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:06:02 PM   
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That makes it right?


We are talking about the "framers" you know the guys who wrote it.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:08:17 PM   
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That makes it right?

Nope, it just makes it old fucking news

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:12:04 PM   
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No, the problem is far more widespread and far more fundamental than that. The problem is deep seated within American culture, you guys, on a cultural level, have a lover affair with both guns and outlaws.


You simply do not understand. If you want me to fix your goddamn refrigerator I need a screwdriver. If you want me to get this animal off you who is raping you I need the proper tool.

But don't worry, I won't be there. Then you will no longer be against guns, you will want one after getting raped I think. And I support that fully.

The kid who wanted his Dad to give a homeless guy money. Dad said "OK, you go do a bunch of chores and I will pay you and you can give him the money", the kid said "Why don't you just get him to do the work and pay him ?" and the Dad said "Now you are a conservative".

And I have seen where people were against guns until they got robbed. Go figure.

Liberals, in fact everyone, have this penchant for running other people's lives. The fucking republicans don''t want you having abortions, smoking pot and who knows what else. The democrats want guys fucked up in the head and have a ten inch dick in the bathroom with your ten year old daughter.

The real problem is we do not have any real conservatives. Intelligent people have a real hard time voting for these 6,000 year old Earth assholes and I do not blame them. But the democrats are turning the place into a fucking socialist country, and we do not want that either.

The problem is the political parties actually.

Enough

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:18:17 PM   
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As pointed out before the problem isn't guns.

No, I'm afraid that isn't so. All the "causes" you list are present in other countries, yet they don't have the same problem. Look at your cultural heroes: The gangster, the bank robber, the gunslinger, the hanging judge... your society has a strong element of the glorification of violence and the lone man with a gun.

Claiming it is drugs and gangs overlooks the simple fact that without the easy access to guns, the problem would be much less. Sorry, but it is really hard to pull a drive-by knifing.



Bullshit.

Answer me this - if you had a gun would you go out and kill someone ?

Or do you think the gun will sprout legs and do it on its own ?

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:27:09 PM   
Termyn8or


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How is Jessie James a gang ?

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:31:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		He isn't any more. He was shot by one of his new gang, wasn't he ? A bloke called Ford who said he wanted to be a part of the new James Gang I believe.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:55:45 PM   
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Oh I think that a lot of libs/left/dems dont want to lose the 2nd.
but hey, keep on putting words in their mouths.



Thank you for pointing that out. That really is a comforting thought.


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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:57:38 PM   
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My eyesight isn't as good as it was in those days but it was something I did with regularity.

Bullshit. You can't even SEE a 1cm object at 400 yards. Claiming to regularly hit one with a pellet gun at that range is ludicrous.


Maybe you can't - but I could.
And until the last 15 years I still could.

Bullshit.

You should have told a more believable lie, like you were a door gunner on the Space Shuttle.


I know a guy used to be able to read the letter and numbers off of airplanes in flight. I know a guy who I think, can see in the dark. Some people have really good eyesight and according to what I have read, can see somewhat into the IR and UV spectrum.

you think that because you can't see it others can't. That is a human condition known as "projecting" psychologically. You think everybody is the same. Well, they are not.

Like with the gun thing and this psychiatrist on JFPO, people really think they better not have guns because they are unbalanced enough that they would shoot people over stupid shit. So they think everyone else is like that so they want everyone not to have guns so they do not get shot. Cowardly assholes.

And as always I say, come and get them. They are coming lead first. What do you think the real criminals are saying ?

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Termy, here is an online ballistic calculator. If you look through it you can calculate anything about ballistics.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdist-5.1.cgi

The link here should send you to a part of the calculator that will determine the maximum distance a bullet will travel. If it doesn't go to home and find the maximum distance link and go there. On another list, sorry it's an app on my phone and I can't give you a link, I found the best match target pellet for a pellet gun. It weighs 8 gr (grains, 7000 grains to the American pound) and has a ballistic coefficient of 0.012. Plug in those two number and any numbers you want for things like temperature, pressure and altitude. Pick where you are now and check the weather. Plug in 1000 fps which is hot for a pellet gun. Then do the calculation. The maximum distance that very high end pellet will travel is about 276 yards when it is fired at a 25 degree incline above the target.

So you see, the high end pellet won't travel 400 yards out of a pellet gun and to make it travel 276 yards you have to aim several feet over the target. That sort of aim is impossible for iron sights and the bullet falls to the ground 124 yards in front of her target anyway.

What she said she did is impossible and when I pointed it out she repeated the lie.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:58:07 PM   
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240 years ago: Government tyranny

Today: Self-defense


Yeah but I would add self defense to 240 years ago, and add Government tyranny to today.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 8:59:53 PM   
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"We have always had gangs...ever hear of jessie james"

How is Jessie James a gang ?


Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:03:44 PM   
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240 years ago: Government tyranny

Today: Self-defense


Yeah but I would add self defense to 240 years ago, and add Government tyranny to today.

Concur. Or if it wasn't true you wouldn't have Obama saying that to appease BLM the cops will have to admit wrong and apologize. So shooting cops at least has the Obama part of the government thinking.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:05:47 PM   
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FR~

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
There's too many nutters/rednecks in the US; the stats prove that time and again.

Don't have gun free zones; as has been said already, criminals don't read signs.
Make the whole country, coast-to-coast, border-to-border, a gun free zone for all public places.
Get caught with a firearm in public - $500 fine, gun & ammo destroyed, license (if they had one) revoked.
Second offense, double the fine and 3 months incarceration with no parole.
Further infringements, double the penalty.
It's a very simple law: no guns in a public place.
That way, it doesn't infringe on your rights to own a gun and doesn't stop hunting or pleasure shooting in approved places.


We can have guns just like the US.
However, our society, bad as it is, have generally decided we are better off without them.
The same for Australia and many other civilized countries.




So when you say "license revoked", does that mean we all need licenses, the requesit psychological testing and all the rest of it to own a firearm ?

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:07:03 PM   
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Or if it wasn't true you wouldn't have Obama saying that to appease BLM the cops will have to admit wrong and apologize.

When the cops murder someone don't you think they should admit wrong and apologize?

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:08:25 PM   
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What she said she did is impossible and when I pointed it out she repeated the lie.


She is a he.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:10:25 PM   
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What she said she did is impossible and when I pointed it out she repeated the lie.


She is a he.


He is a couple, could have been either one. From the hysterics I assumed she. I'll admit I could have picked wrong.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:17:45 PM   
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Why do we never hear about people who have successfully defended themselves with their guns?


Pick up a copy of any of the 3 NRA publications. They run a regular monthly 2 page column "The Armed Citizen" highlighting instances of armed self defense plucked from news sources around the country.

One reason you don't hear about it is because the anti gun media doesn't want to highlight the fact that it's quite common.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:30:15 PM   
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The point is clear; if you didn't have guns in public places, people wouldn't get shot.
That's pretty simple to understand. No?



No, what I don't understand is how you keep the criminals psychos and assorted whack jobs from having guns in public places.


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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:33:45 PM   
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Pick up a copy of any of the 3 NRA publications. They run a regular monthly 2 page column "The Armed Citizen" highlighting instances of armed self defense plucked from news sources around the country.


It is a one page item not two with usually about a half dozen entries. One would think that with all the rhetoric about how personal guns stop crime one would think they could come up with more than a half dozen a month.

One reason you don't hear about it is because the anti gun media doesn't want to highlight the fact that it's quite common.


Just above you point out that these news items came from the media which you claim do not cover this stuff.

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RE: WHY DOES THE U.S NEED GUNS ? - 7/19/2016 9:36:34 PM   
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No, what I don't understand is how you keep the criminals psychos and assorted whack jobs from having guns in public places.



Easy.


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