Nnanji
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ORIGINAL: tj444 Oh I know the US isnt a democracy, its a police state.. the ones that rule are the 1% and big corps that can buy the politicians (on both sides) to get what they want.. its a mob, but a small elite mob.. Ya, okay. Got your tin foil hat on I see. Tin is outdated, I think it's mostly aluminum these days. So then, here are some items from (according to you) Alcoa's best customers: http://www.freedomworks.org/content/big-corporations-and-big-government-go-hand-hand Big corporations are often hostile to free enterprise. The late Noble Prize winning economist Milton Friedman once wrote, “business corporations in general are not defenders of free enterprise. On the contrary, they are one of the chief sources of danger.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy Industry concentration/ See also: Too big to fail and Concentration of media ownership "An example of such industry concentration is in banking. The top 5 U.S. banks had approximately 30% of the U.S. banking assets in 1998; this rose to 45% by 2008 and to 48% by 2010, before falling to 47% in 2011." No surprise; financial deregulation run amok in tandem with consolidation. Ex-Goldman Sachs CEO Robert Rubin -> Clinton's Treasury Sec. and Reagan's Fed chief Alan Greenspan argue vehemently against CFTC commissioner Brooksley Born's paper warning about unregulated commodity/financial derivatives market. Commodity Futures Modernization (deregulation) Act voted by congress. Nine years later, ex-Goldman Sachs CEO Hank Paulson -> Bush's Treasury Sec. spearheads banks' extortion of (to date) $4.6 trillion from taxpayers. (Caveat: that last item was from Forbes, foil hatters they are.) In the '80s, then GD Searle CEO Donald Rumsfeld took issue with the FDA not approving use of his company's artificial sweetener Aspartame. Had Reagan fire the guy and replace with Rumsfeld's designee as head of FDA. *Poof*, FDA approves Aspartame! In 1953 Iran elects Mossadegh. British-owned AIOC don't like him, try to overthrow, fail, call in US cavalry, CIA overthrows Mossadegh. In Iraq, S Hussein gets too uppity, US/UK oil companies take offense. Former government arm twister Rumsfeld and directly-from-CEO-of-Halliburton-Oil VP Dick Cheney spearhead US and "coalition of the coerced," (oops, I think that's 'willing' the mega-conglomerate media told us,) invasion of Iraq. Cost in several trillions (and counting) to taxpayers, conservative estimate of ~ 1.5 million civilians martyred for oil companies. And then these great democracy fighters, ALEC. "More than 98% of ALEC's revenues come from sources other than legislative dues, such as corporations, corporate trade groups, and corporate foundations. Each corporate member pays an annual fee of between $7,000 and $25,000 a year, and if a corporation participates in any of the nine task forces, additional fees apply, from $2,500 to $10,000 each year. ALEC also receives direct grants from corporations, such as $1.4 million from ExxonMobil from 1998-2009. It has also received grants from some of the biggest foundations funded by corporate CEOs in the country, such as: the Koch family Charles G. Koch Foundation, the Koch-managed Claude R. Lambe Foundation, the Scaife family Allegheny Foundation, the Coors family Castle Rock Foundation, to name a few. "Corporations sit on ALEC task forces and vote with legislators to approve “model” bills. Participating legislators, overwhelmingly conservative Republicans, then bring those proposals home and introduce them in statehouses across the land as their own brilliant ideas and important public policy innovations—without disclosing that corporations crafted and voted on the bills. "ALEC boasts that it has over 1,000 of these bills introduced by legislative members every year, with one in every five of them enacted into law." In any case, someone screaming of "foil hatters!" at any description of verified reality regarding our corporate controlled 'government' helps identify who the blind mice are. Okay aluminum. The banks, I agreed years ago when Clinton (the rapist not the rape denier or crook) was allowing it. It seems to have worked out for him, and her. Tell me, are you going to vote for her this year. Iraqi oil, aluminum hat. Rumsfeld, I've seen shit like that happen at all level of government. Usually, it's because some liberal social moralist activist like Lois Lerner decided they'd operate the system by their rules. I don't know if that was the case with Runsfeld. It sounds as if you don't know either and have just decided it was a government conspiracy. Aluminum hat to you until you can prove otherwise. It's one of the best reasons to keep a government small and having less power. Tell it to the socialists and progressives I'm doing my part. ALEC, I've never seen an elected official who knew his ass from a hole in the ground. I wouldn't trust one to make a law all by themselves. They all need professional help understand the real world outside Washington DC. Where do you find that help, in the community that makes real things in the real world. Good on them for being smart enough to know just how stupid they are and seeking help. Now, I grant you that people like Harry Reid who has made millions of dollars on a Senators salary is more than likely skimming. I can obviously name a few others that have sat on the hill for thirty years and become rich. Yet, the assumption that's because it's "business" that advises them it has to be crooked, well that's a socialist boogie man wearing an aluminum hat. Again, I ask you if you're going to vote for Clinton (the rape justifier and crook not the rapist) to help perpetuate the cycle? I've had elected officials come to my office and ask me to explain technical things to them. In such a case, I was always honorable and just gave the facts and explained the pros and cons from a neutral perspective. That you see it as only evil corporate buy outs of officials is an aluminum hat. Lastly, my tin foil hat comment was a snort to the concept of a Police State. I've been to Police States before. This isn't a Police State.
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