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Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath"! - 7/20/2016 2:48:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Trump's hopes of a successful controversy free coronation from the GOP convention were dashed twice in recent days. First the co-author of "The Art of the Deal" Tony Schwartz dumped on Trump calling him a "sociopath" and pathological liar:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

"“[T]he prospect of President Trump terrified him[Schwartz]. It wasn’t because of Trump’s ideology—Schwartz doubted that he had one. The problem was Trump’s personality, which he considered pathologically impulsive and self-centered.

I put lipstick on a pig,” he said. “I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is.” He went on, “I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

If he were writing “The Art of the Deal” today, Schwartz said, it would be a very different book with a very different title. Asked what he would call it, he answered, “The Sociopath.”

If that wasn't bad enough, wife Melania got busted for plagiarising Michelle Obama's speech when she tried to persuade the GOP convention of her husbands (ahem) merits.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/19/melania-trump-plagiarism-scandal-michelle-obama

Well they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, though I suspect Trump might object to that optimistic interpretation of his wife's plagiarism. Hands up all those who desire thieving sociopaths as the First Family .....

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 3:09:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think people are making a way too big of deal of Melania's speech. I give her a pass as English is just one of the five languages she knows. That's alot of languages. It might be difficult for her to express herself in English or think of the words to describe what she wants to say and she just happens to share the same values as Michelle. And she did wrote most of the speech herself. So who-ever was suppose to vet her speech, didn't do their home work and let it pass.

Also, being able to form an original speech is not a qualification required for a President's wife. She's gonna be like barbara bush type of first lady. Not really involve and more quiet. She will be giving very few speeches in the future.

I don't know what the motives of this co-author is, but Trump has been bragging about the art of deal for like years and years publicly. Only NOW he decided to smear him? And take credit that the book was written by him?

Wonder if a Dem paid him to smear Trump.




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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 4:41:50 AM   
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I think people are making a way too big of deal of Melania's speech. I give her a pass as English is just one of the five languages she knows. That's alot of languages. It might be difficult for her to express herself in English or think of the words to describe what she wants to say and she just happens to share the same values as Michelle. And she did wrote most of the speech herself. So who-ever was suppose to vet her speech, didn't do their home work and let it pass.


The corollary to that, of course, is that Flump is fine with immigrants who don't speak perfect English so long as he gets to shag them. Maybe he'll be marrying a Mexican next?

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I don't know what the motives of this co-author is, but Trump has been bragging about the art of deal for like years and years publicly. Only NOW he decided to smear him? And take credit that the book was written by him?


Most likely a feeling that he should have been paid more to ghost Flump's book for him. Now is a pretty good time to be mentioning that, as Flump is currently getting a lot more media attention than he usually does.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 5:05:27 AM   
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The corollary to that, of course, is that Flump is fine with immigrants who don't speak perfect English so long as he gets to shag them. Maybe he'll be marrying a Mexican next?

Her accent in her speech was horribly strong. Despite so many years in the US, it has not been Americanized. I wonder how her son will sound like if she is full time with him speaking in that accent. I have an Australian girlfriend who was so horrified that her two kids are picking up Singaporean accented English, she shipped her kids back to Australia for school ha! Anyway, I think a wife is very different from immigrants. If a man takes a foreign bride and can adequately financially support her. There is no issue.

I have a very pragmatic view towards immigrants. You just want any who won't be financial burden to your country. But able to contribute to taxes and the economy or creating jobs, if they aren't marrying a rich spouse who is able to financially take care of them. If they can create jobs without speaking English, great!
In my country foreigners pay more taxes but do not enjoy the benefits of citizens. That's the way it should be. They are funding our country which is great! And if they don't like it, it's a choice whether to work here or not, knowing upfront they wouldn't get equal benefits as citizens.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 7:21:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		And yet he's got several women from his past who stand up and describe him as warm, which would not happen if he was actually a sociopath. Just BS. And at the same time Sick Moris who spent years with Hillary has a book that has real insight into her that can be discussed, along with the insight out of the book from the Secret Service agent that guarded her. Tweak, why don't you take a lead with those?

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 7:26:41 AM   
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If you +would like to discuss Dick Morris and his motives and his book, why dont you open a thread instead of hijacking this one?
Or you could try sticking to a topic?

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:17:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		For Trump to be labelled as a sociopath comes as no surprise to me. The fact that this labelling is being done by someone who has had close access to Trump over a period of time adds to the general impression Trump himself generates. Schwartz' critique reads true. I suggest you read the full 'New Yorker' magazine article and see for yourself.

Trump's divisive politics, grandiose claims, self aggrandisement, lies, racist and/or personal abuse of his opponents (or anyone perceived to be an opponent), egomania, absurd policies and ridiculous posturing all create the impression that Trump is an out of control sociopath with no regard for the social divisions he is enlarging or the ugly hatreds he is stirring. These are all classic sociopath symptoms, straight out of the textbook.

Trump's one and only agenda item is Trump. Anyone fooled by this patently fraudulent snake oil salesman needs to really take a good look at themselves.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:25:43 AM   
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and there seem to be a couple of women who think that trumps a groper and a rapist.

If you +would like to discuss Dick Morris and his motives and his book, why dont you open a thread instead of hijacking this one?
Or you could try sticking to a topic?

I read about those women. Then a couple of the women came forward and explained that nobody had asked them about it and denied the claim. So the whole thing died away.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:27:34 AM   
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For Trump to be labelled as a sociopath comes as no surprise to me. The fact that this labelling is being done by someone who has had close access to Trump over a period of time adds to the general impression Trump himself generates. Schwartz' critique reads true. I suggest you read the full 'New Yorker' magazine article and see for yourself.

Trump's divisive politics, grandiose claims, self aggrandisement, lies, racist and/or personal abuse of his opponents (or anyone perceived to be an opponent), egomania, absurd policies and ridiculous posturing all create the impression that Trump is an out of control sociopath with no regard for the divisions he is enlarging or the hatreds he is stirring. These are all classic sociopath symptoms, straight out of the textbook.

Trump's one and only agenda item is Trump. Anyone fooled by this patently fraudulent snake oil salesman needs to really take a good look at themselves.

A period of time? What does that mean? I know the secret service agent was around the Clinton's for years and dick Morris many years.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:29:19 AM   
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and there seem to be a couple of women who think that trumps a groper and a rapist.

If you +would like to discuss Dick Morris and his motives and his book, why dont you open a thread instead of hijacking this one?
Or you could try sticking to a topic?

I read about those women. Then a couple of the women came forward and explained that nobody had asked them about it and denied the claim. So the whole thing died away.

oh? I think you might be thinking about earlier ones...


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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:41:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		So in essence he is saying trump is a fuking nutter I would be surprised if anyone is actually surprised by this. Albeit there is no accounting for the density of some americans.

Some nutters are hard to spot, but the man who would be king not so much. (now that is 10/10 film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Would_Be_King_(film)

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:47:09 AM   
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For Trump to be labelled as a sociopath comes as no surprise to me. The fact that this labelling is being done by someone who has had close access to Trump over a period of time adds to the general impression Trump himself generates. Schwartz' critique reads true. I suggest you read the full 'New Yorker' magazine article and see for yourself.

Trump's divisive politics, grandiose claims, self aggrandisement, lies, racist and/or personal abuse of his opponents (or anyone perceived to be an opponent), egomania, absurd policies and ridiculous posturing all create the impression that Trump is an out of control sociopath with no regard for the social divisions he is enlarging or the ugly hatreds he is stirring. These are all classic sociopath symptoms, straight out of the textbook.

Trump's one and only agenda item is Trump. Anyone fooled by this patently fraudulent snake oil salesman needs to really take a good look at themselves.
Wait...are you talking about Trump? Or Barack?

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:51:09 AM   
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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:53:45 AM   
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oh? I think you might be thinking about earlier ones...

Hasn't Ivana made some unpleasant comments about Flump's complete lack of any personal warmth as well?

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:55:15 AM   
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For Trump to be labelled as a sociopath comes as no surprise to me. The fact that this labelling is being done by someone who has had close access to Trump over a period of time adds to the general impression Trump himself generates. Schwartz' critique reads true. I suggest you read the full 'New Yorker' magazine article and see for yourself.

Trump's divisive politics, grandiose claims, self aggrandisement, lies, racist and/or personal abuse of his opponents (or anyone perceived to be an opponent), egomania, absurd policies and ridiculous posturing all create the impression that Trump is an out of control sociopath with no regard for the divisions he is enlarging or the hatreds he is stirring. These are all classic sociopath symptoms, straight out of the textbook.

Trump's one and only agenda item is Trump. Anyone fooled by this patently fraudulent snake oil salesman needs to really take a good look at themselves.

A period of time? What does that mean? I know the secret service agent was around the Clinton's for years and dick Morris many years.

Had you bothered to read the 'New Yorker' magazine article I linked in the OP, you would know the answer to your question.

It is striking that, despite the trenchant criticisms I levelled at Trump, your only quibble with my post was a (not terribly important) query about the time Trump's co-author spent with Trump. So I take it that you are in agreement with the list of sociopathic symptoms Trump's behaviour exhibits and the unavoidable conclusion based on those symptoms that Trump is a fraudulent dangerous sociopath. I'm glad that's settled.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 8:58:30 AM   
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oh? I think you might be thinking about earlier ones...

Hasn't Ivana made some unpleasant comments about Flump's complete lack of any personal warmth as well?

many years ago, she retracted it, but...i think both exes have signed NDAs and prenups...

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 9:15:23 AM   
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Well if Trump's biographer said it, it must be true.

Whooosh.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 9:22:43 AM   
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Well if Trump's biographer said it, it must be true.

Whooosh.

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It was trenchant.

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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 9:28:39 AM   
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oh? I think you might be thinking about earlier ones...

Hasn't Ivana made some unpleasant comments about Flump's complete lack of any personal warmth as well?

many years ago, she retracted it, but...i think both exes have signed NDAs and prenups...

And of course, expecting a bunk up to sign such documents is also a sign of great personal warmth...


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RE: Trump's biographer says Trump is a "sociopath&... - 7/20/2016 11:07:47 AM   
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Whats the matter CD, cant read??? do you have something equally supported about Obama?
Equally supported? You mean someone who was willing to take money to ghostwriter a book and then, several years later, come out and say that "while much of what I wrote was bullshit...handed off as truth...written to earn a paycheck, what I am telling you now IS the REAL truth. Oh, and nobody has offered me anything for the truth...that I'm telling now...not the 'truth' I wrote when Trump was paying me."

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