CarpeEros
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If ever there was a time for a third party, it is now.
Exactly. Media propaganda is so bad that people don't even know basic facts like Bernie was beating Trump in national polls (covering all General Election voters) while HC was either beating Trump by less or even tied..this was months ago. Not reported (not very much) in mainstream media. Now of course she's doing worse, but Bernie's already been blackmailed into silence.
Other thing MSM brainwashes most on the left about is that they don't see that HC is to the RIGHT of Trump in many areas. Or that if they are concerned about women, immigrants, innocent civilian Muslims and other groups, that she's worse, because she bombs and kills people, no matter what you think of Trump's language, tone, insults. Being killed is definitely worse. She supports coups in Central America that create waves of immigrations, which is worse than any words Trump has used (I disagree with both sides that way that Trump never said anything bad, and disagree with the PC folks who exaggerate anything he says into "racistsexisthater" but do NOT want to get into it. Or we'll be going in circles analyzing every single word and syllable he ever uttered. The two extreme views I disagree with about Trump's "words", I just summarized so there you have it..)
Don't like Trump and don't trust him to keep his word to avoid wars, avoid NAFTA like disasters like TPP (conservatives - research Stop TPP movement...or we can kiss sovereignty goodbye as well as any public health and safety being overruled by corporate types in backroom deals and rulings, as we progressive worry about) and I suspect he won't build a wall either, disappoint those of you who think that's the solution (I don't). Even Trump isn't sure what Trump will do.
But Hillary? It's pretty clear what she will do...more war, more for Wall Street, all with the things that sucker people into either going along with it or not paying attention, doing things quietly in the backrooms rather than in your face, or her and Bill especially sweet talking the nation into it or a "soft" and "woman's face" selling wars and saying it's a vast conspiracy against her and slick Bill helping con the nation.
Even progressives, many are fooled and think Trump is the worst, but more of us see him as the less terrible choice. But...believe it or not, more progressives are coming to see Hillary as the worse of the two..most will never vote for Trump but they consider him toxic and her even more toxic though. That's what several Bernie or Bust youtube people and spokespersons have said including women like the Sane Progressive on youtube and African Americans like Tim Black saying it.And AfAm woman Yahne Ndgo also letting Hillary have it in a viral video. The other youtube Bernie people I mentioned? Just saying Trump is scary, yes, but Hillary's worse, more are saying that.
YahNe Ndgo on CNN hands down beats the rich pro-Clinton spokeswoman..and gets the LAST word at the end, just nails it all while speaking very gently and smashes the Clinton person:
YahNe Ndgo explains Bernie or Bust/Never Hillary
This is one of the top Bernie youtube people the Sane Progressive and her interviewed by another one on his show, saying hands down Hillary is worse and giving some examples why:
Hillary Or Trump, Who's Worse?
If you have time for just one, watch the above where Debbie (the Sane Progressive) is so...I'll let you watch but by the end Tim Black says, "wow. I heard you go hard"
One last one, one great senior citizen white rural lady with a powerful voice, Portia, hammers Hillary not so soft spoken as YahNe but wonderful and went viral too:
Bernie Sanders delegate
Portia Boulger Unleashing on Hillary Clinton 2 minutes went viral
These are all progressives Bernie supporters not conservatives...In my state though I don't have to ask myself if I could vote for the lesser evil, which I don't thin I ever could anyway, but my state Maryland it's not close so you might as well vote for third parties. In states where it's close, I hear both sides of the argument each is partly right, which is a wasted vote, you both had a point.
< Message edited by CarpeEros -- 7/27/2016 11:17:12 PM >
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