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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:16:00 AM   
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90% of music today is created in the lab as it were. The shows like The Voice and American Idol, have perpetuated shitty music, IMHO. I was born in the 60's and unfortunately lived through disco, but for me, the 80's where I came of age, and that is where most of my musical tastes still come from. As for Beiber, as NASA to shoot him into the sun for thr good of Mankind, and take the Kardashians with him


Excuse me but what the fuck did the sun ever do to you to deserve such treatment? You are just going to have to come up with another plan.


to the OP....you would be surprised how many of us were around then. I loved it as a child growing up and I still listen to 60's more than anything else.

What I find interesting are the labels they throw on music. In the 70's and 80's I listened to what they called the "oldies" which was music from the 50's and 60's. At the time it made sense because 20 years ago was certainly old. At least it did to me back then. But then we fast forward 20 more years to the 90's and music from the 70's isn't called "oldies", it's called classic rock. I guess calling it "oldies" made them feel old or something.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:25:46 AM   
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And on another point; computer chips are not musical instruments.

But that's at least 80% of what's on the airwaves that I hear next to me at the traffic lights. What horrendous sonic torture to anyone not being born half deaf.

Computer chip 'percussion' and auto-tune 'singing' is what's being foisted upon us now, without relent.

My ears can't handle that sort of sonic fingernail/chalkboard onslaught from the outset, so pardon me for not being able to get to such apparently lesser considerations in the matter as musical merit.

Because, of course, Kraftwerk, The White Noise, Weather Report, Gary Numan, Magazine, Laurie Anderson, Front 242, Isao Tomita, Wendy Carlos, Edgar Winter, The Who, Nine Inch Nails, Pink Floyd, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Alice Cooper, Cher, Donna Summer, John Carpenter, The Cure, George Clinton, Hawkwind, and anybody else who's ever used an synthesiser or an electronically treated vocal on a record or on stage have only ever recoded worthless shit?
(Seriously, don't talk such bollocks.)



This must hold all sorts of hate for Edwird then, but aside from the Theremin, which is just such a cool use on the track, it's also from one of my favourite films ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGogksGPjNg

Needles


I love the Theremin also, it has a very haunting sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YYABE0R3uA

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:31:55 AM   
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Even though at least three of your proposed 'facts' are entirely wrong, especially "Band of Gypsies," you still use those errors to dance your way around the fact that neither Clapton nor Hendrix use the wah-wah pedal all the way thorough their repertoire, and continue to avoid the subject at hand in any case.


Really? Which three would those be?


1) that Hendrix used a wah-wah all through The Band of Gypsies. He did use the wah-wah more live than in the studio, but even then, not every song.

2) that Cilla Black was shite. Again, I'm not the biggest fan, but seeing that video interview of her describing her dealings with Burt Bacharach when they were recording the title song to the movie Alfie cracked me up, and then watching the original rerecording itself on video was pretty good to. But if you like toy drums better than Cilla, so be it. It didn't take here 10 years to figure it out, all I can say.

3) "Like a lot of electronics, a wah wah can do one than more thing, and is more often used as a controllable distortion boost than for the Theme From Shaft chukka-chukka thing this side of the mid '70s."

No. Sorry, not a "controllable distortion," but a continuous tone control. ALL of guitars and pedals have "controllable distortion" of some sort, but people who use these things are usually more specific than that oversimplification.

I could probably go to eight or higher, just keeping it to three because I'm lazy today..


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And sorry, no excuses that 'we are still trying to figure it out' just like they did in the good old days. It doesn't take 10 years for anyone not wearing a hearing aid to figure out a toy drum sound when they hear it, especially when more than adequate syndrums have been out for 15 years already. I can well assure you the foisting of sonic crap is I'm speaking of quite intentional.

Tell you what: when I no longer hear MOR slop like Rod Stewart's Sailing or Cat Steven's mind-numbingly tiresome '70s dreck on the radio or pub muzak, I might buy your argument that it shouldn't take ten years for shit to sink. As things stand, shit that's even older than I am is still getting a frequent airing.

Nice that you've narrowed your issue down to drum machines more than anything else, though. Moved into audio recording instead of performing because your band thought a small box from Roland would be easier to deal with and wouldn't bleat on about Hendrix and Clapton all the time, did we?


What are you drinking?

"My band" didn't do an effing thing. I went to college for three years (long ago) and took computer programming and music theory. Took the piano tuning and studio recording after that. Made a living off my ears 25 years after that. Got a degree in Econ 30 years later.

Whereas you are obviously are a fucking loser, the most pissed off human I've seen for years.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:34:41 AM   
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In other news, I don't give a flying fuck what your pissant personal problems are.

You give ME crap about my objection over electronic toy drums, then bleat about your obsession with Rod Stewart dreck?

Oh my ...

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:41:29 AM   
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Cheers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrEPzsx1gQ

Oh, so loverly on the ears!

-Pukes and pukes ... -


All I get for that is

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Needles


can you see this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDvsLSnUGc

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:51:39 AM   
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Cheers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrEPzsx1gQ

Oh, so loverly on the ears!

-Pukes and pukes ... -


All I get for that is

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Needles


can you see this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDvsLSnUGc


That's great! boi.

"Kvetch" or whatever it's called, never goes out of style, not completely.

I wish I could figure out what the bass guitar was. The lead guitar was obviously a Gibson EL 335.

Good stuff, any road.

Thanks.


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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 7:57:32 AM   
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Cheers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrEPzsx1gQ

Oh, so loverly on the ears!

-Pukes and pukes ... -


All I get for that is

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Needles


can you see this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDvsLSnUGc


No, sadly I get the same message as the other one.

I saw your Sheldon clip though, and I love TBBT. It's a program I can watch many times over, especially Sheldon being his usual self, and that clip amuses me greatly

Needles

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:01:14 AM   
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Drum machines, electronic instruments, etc have been a part of music since the advent of the microchip, and for good and bad.

When first introduced, the Moog, was limited in what it could do, however, it did impact the music world in ways that resulted in pieces of music that could not have been created without it.

Electronic drums has given artists the ability to duplicate any percussion instrument on the planet (negating the need to drag a 20 foot, 6 ton log around for performances.)

While my personal tastes lean toward the classic instruments, I have found that their are some artists that can take an electronic device and create some haunting melodies that defy description.

Personally attacking someone for their opinion on these advances is both childish, and for lack of a better term, stupid.

While some claim that music is a universal language, regardless of the genre, due to its mathematical nature, it seems to be a basis for argument and insults.



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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:13:36 AM   
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I don't give a flying fuck who's got the better ears.
You can have your pissing contest somewhere else.

I refer back to my post#5.
I'm quite patial to synths and stuff.
Rick Wakeman is one of my fave artists.
Not so much the what he plays (which I happen to like), it's the how he plays.
I can't remember who said it, but someone said "he doesn't just play the Moog, he makes it sing".
Many of the old artists from around 50 years ago actually played their instruments from their hearts.
Whether it was a real instrument or a synth or some other electronically controlled gizmo (electric guitar anyone??).

The problem with most 'modern' music of the last 30 years is the people performing.
Yes, some of them perform well. In my mind many do not.
It's a mish-mash of noise cobbled together to make money for public consumption.
Many bands and artists are in it for the money, not for the love of music - and it really shows.


Sorry, but 90% of '70's stuff is crap.

Here's the real deal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgQg4ze1_KU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjlZ8x2uQM

Led Zeppelin, BTW, did these very two songs from their second album tour concerts forward for years in their encore.



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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:21:57 AM   
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Drum machines, electronic instruments, etc have been a part of music since the advent of the microchip, and for good and bad.

When first introduced, the Moog, was limited in what it could do, however, it did impact the music world in ways that resulted in pieces of music that could not have been created without it.

Electronic drums has given artists the ability to duplicate any percussion instrument on the planet (negating the need to drag a 20 foot, 6 ton log around for performances.)

While my personal tastes lean toward the classic instruments, I have found that their are some artists that can take an electronic device and create some haunting melodies that defy description.

Personally attacking someone for their opinion on these advances is both childish, and for lack of a better term, stupid.

While some claim that music is a universal language, regardless of the genre, due to its mathematical nature, it seems to be a basis for argument and insults.




Can you read, bro?
Read back a few pages.

If you can, see who attacked a sonic abomination vs who attacked (or attempted to) a person.

Read again, and see who got outright violent, and who threatened another with a stick.

Just stick with it, you'll get through it.




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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:25:16 AM   
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Am I all of a sudden a magnet for half the deaf Mother Fuckers in the World, or What?

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:28:17 AM   
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Good gosh, people ...

Just play this over and over again, at highest volume possible, forever and ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgQg4ze1_KU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjlZ8x2uQM

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:33:59 AM   
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Just do the world an evolutionary favour and die.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:50:21 AM   
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Cheers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryrEPzsx1gQ

Oh, so loverly on the ears!

-Pukes and pukes ... -


All I get for that is

This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Needles


can you see this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPDvsLSnUGc


No, sadly I get the same message as the other one.

I saw your Sheldon clip though, and I love TBBT. It's a program I can watch many times over, especially Sheldon being his usual self, and that clip amuses me greatly

Needles



That is strange, I wonder if it's because the Tornados are from the UK so they block it there. I would think if it's a copy right thing it would apply everywhere but apparently not.

Yea that is a classic Sheldon, he cracks me up too.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 8:52:45 AM   
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Just do the world an evolutionary favour and die.



while talking to ones self online may seem strange don't you think suicide would be overkill.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 9:05:40 AM   
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Since everybody in the discussion in the last five pages or so is deaf, and 2/3rds of them can't even read, I'm just going to stick to the visuals from hereon out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgQg4ze1_KUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRjlZ8x2uQM

Mary Weiss got a degree in Studio Art, and was a designer for many offices for many years. Leader Of The Pack, in her field, one could say

Watch Jackie Deshannon flub her opening line in her miscue at the beginning of this otherwise neat song. They did mimes or 'lip sync' as standard on most of these shows, even with The Beatles, in the earliest days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVCBSIn_1j0

Bruce Springsteen had this song in his encore for many years.

The Beatles specifically requested Jackie Deshannon to be among the opening acts on their first US tour. There are several pictures of her playing Monopoly with the Beatles, of whom JL was the biggest player. One pic of Jackie and George playing Monopoly in a motel room still exists, I think.

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 9:14:42 AM   
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edwird start your own threads this place need em..easy done and if you do a poll it lets people feel part.

jlf1961 has done a few over the last few days and i thank him for doing so.

I was actually born in 69 but I am struggling to find one song or one singular group that defines that. Sure we can all do lists, but that one, that embodies the spirit of that decade, is more trickier and would carry its weight in gold although I am inclined to blame the mushrooms of magic

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 9:22:47 AM   
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Just do the world an evolutionary favour and die.



while talking to ones self online may seem strange don't you think suicide would be overkill.


It's overkill in any case.

I'm just disgusted, that's all.

It happens, it gets gotten over, etc.

I'm going to look for some dance stuff you -might- like, not sure.

Give me a few ...

OK, here we are.

Here's one;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahoJReiCaPk

Once you get past the first minute, it will bowl you over.
I've seen things like this live, more amazing than you know.

It's SO fast!

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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 9:39:05 AM   
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edwird start your own threads this place need em..easy done and if you do a poll it lets people feel part.

jlf1961 has done a few over the last few days and i thank him for doing so.

I was actually born in 69 but I am struggling to find one song or one singular group that defines that. Sure we can all do lists, but that one, that embodies the spirit of that decade, is more trickier and would carry its weight in gold although I am inclined to blame the mushrooms of magic



This is a most excellent education, here.

In human psychology or somesuch, I suppose.

I mention overly loud electronic toy drums as played in public, I get an overtly hostile response, I then get threatened with a stick, and then, after great explication as to my qualifications on the matter, somebody from Texas who apparently read the immediate post prior, but no further into the matte,r tells me that electronic toy drums at loud volume are the bees knees, and then, bless your heart, you try to calm me to rest.

As instructive to the issue as it is that you have some bit less instinct to calm the violent than the nonviolent, ...

How about we just talk?

Ask me what it is you don't understand about what's being disgussed.

If you can do that without holding a stick, you'd be the first.





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RE: Music of the 1960s What a pity we we not yet born. ... - 8/18/2016 9:45:17 AM   
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I DID put in The Shangri-las, BTW, Mary Weiss in all her glory. Read the topic again.


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